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Bruising on grain jars
    #24707878 - 10/13/17 06:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Was wondering if bruising happened from shaking grain jars? These jars are about 3 days after I shook them.



Most of them look like this tho

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24707895 - 10/13/17 07:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like bruising to me.  Could be penicillium, but doubt it.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24707993 - 10/13/17 07:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't look good to me I'll post a picture in a second with a comparison

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #24708006 - 10/13/17 07:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



the one on the left is fucked, bacteria. no bacteria smell perceivable
that's 2 days after a shake, poor recover. it will still thicken up and appear more and more like clean spawn. but if it takes 2 days to even look like that you know it's fucked.

this is the kind of spawn someone would say looked clean, smelled clean and mushroomy. then gets mold on the first flush and doesn't want to blame the spawn...
it was the spawn.

the jar in the middle recovered from a shake just fine
the jar on the right is recovering from a shake

these are all oats.

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24708940 - 10/14/17 09:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the one on the left is fucked, bacteria. no bacteria smell perceivable
that's 2 days after a shake, poor recover. it will still thicken up and appear more and more like clean spawn. but if it takes 2 days to even look like that you know it's fucked.

this is the kind of spawn someone would say looked clean, smelled clean and mushroomy. then gets mold on the first flush and doesn't want to blame the spawn...
it was the spawn.

the jar in the middle recovered from a shake just fine
the jar on the right is recovering from a shake

these are all oats.



i see so they should be recovering way better and thicker? thanks for the help

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24709017 - 10/14/17 10:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the one on the left is fucked, bacteria. no bacteria smell perceivable
that's 2 days after a shake, poor recover. it will still thicken up and appear more and more like clean spawn. but if it takes 2 days to even look like that you know it's fucked.

this is the kind of spawn someone would say looked clean, smelled clean and mushroomy. then gets mold on the first flush and doesn't want to blame the spawn...
it was the spawn.

the jar in the middle recovered from a shake just fine
the jar on the right is recovering from a shake

these are all oats.



i see so they should be recovering way better and thicker? thanks for the help




They should, yes.  I would not count them out.  Keep colonizing and keep and eye on it is all.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24709048 - 10/14/17 10:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

thats not bruising. thats mold. id toss.

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24709058 - 10/14/17 10:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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thats not bruising. thats mold. id toss.




Could be, yes, like I originally stated.  However I have had bruising before from shaking as well.  As it is in the jar, and sealed, it can't hurt to let it run course for a few more days.  All we gotta do is just keep an eye on it.

Do you have any odor coming from the jar(s) at all?


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24709081 - 10/14/17 10:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

id say it could hurt. by getting OPs hopes up as he stares at it, contemplating fruiting because 'i want mushrooms'(huge waste of time/resources)
its 3days past shaking. myc doesnt bruise in a jar from shaking like that. and if it does its gone in 24hrs or less ime.

if i fruited something like those jars? id mold out before the first flush and id blame my bucket tek 'pasteurization'(should be blaming the spawn)

a self made derailment that leds to verm in grain jars or dousing a room in lysol. and it always starts by ignoring bad spawn.

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24709167 - 10/14/17 10:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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id say it could hurt. by getting OPs hopes up as he stares at it, contemplating fruiting because 'i want mushrooms'(huge waste of time/resources)
its 3days past shaking. myc doesnt bruise in a jar from shaking like that. and if it does its gone in 24hrs or less ime.

if i fruited something like those jars? id mold out before the first flush and id blame my bucket tek 'pasteurization'(should be blaming the spawn)

a self made derailment that leds to verm in grain jars or dousing a room in lysol. and it always starts by ignoring bad spawn.




I have had myc bruise in a jar.

Nor is anyone telling him to fruit it.  They aren't even ready to begin with.  If it is a contam, it will be well known. 

I would know throw a jar away without being sure.  Nor would I recommend that?

Keeping it in its jar, and monitoring, nothing wrong with that what so ever.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24709170 - 10/14/17 10:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

oops double post:facepalm3:

Edited by mushboy (10/14/17 10:54 AM)

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24709174 - 10/14/17 10:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yes there is. those jars are trash. its 3 days post shake and its not recovered. thats trash.

just speaking from experience. ive grown lots of mold and spawned lots of questionable shit. IME/O op is wasting his time.

if he keeps those and gets 1 flush with no green, ill ban myself for a month.

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24709224 - 10/14/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

To me there's no reason to do anything but try to case and top fruit that jar. If you want to salvage that is. Otherwise dump it now so you can reuse the jar.


Leaving it for monitoring is fine it will thicken up and appear more like clean spawn. Then it gets used and fucks a tub.
As soon as you start tossing bad spawn like that you'll spend a lot less time seeing green

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24709281 - 10/14/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I toss those bitches asap.  Out of 12 I just tossed 3 that could of "possibly" been contaminated.  Those jars are getting knocked up tonight.  No reason to waste a good jar waiting to fruit bad shrooms.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24719767 - 10/18/17 03:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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To me there's no reason to do anything but try to case and top fruit that jar. If you want to salvage that is. Otherwise dump it now so you can reuse the jar.


Leaving it for monitoring is fine it will thicken up and appear more like clean spawn. Then it gets used and fucks a tub.
As soon as you start tossing bad spawn like that you'll spend a lot less time seeing green




i think im just gonna toss them. i do have pretty many jars but some of them have thicken up. none of that blueish shit has spread but it also hasnt gone away. I can post some pics if you want to see.

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24719808 - 10/18/17 03:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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To me there's no reason to do anything but try to case and top fruit that jar. If you want to salvage that is. Otherwise dump it now so you can reuse the jar.


Leaving it for monitoring is fine it will thicken up and appear more like clean spawn. Then it gets used and fucks a tub.
As soon as you start tossing bad spawn like that you'll spend a lot less time seeing green




i think im just gonna toss them. i do have pretty many jars but some of them have thicken up. none of that blueish shit has spread but it also hasnt gone away. I can post some pics if you want to see.




Post a pic of the jar.  If it hasn't spread it isn't anything but bruising at this point.  IMO, I would not toss the jar.  Keep it and fruit it when it is 100% in it's own separate container.  Check my signature for mini casing or the cup o shrooms.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24719851 - 10/18/17 03:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Pinball24 said:
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bodhisatta said:
To me there's no reason to do anything but try to case and top fruit that jar. If you want to salvage that is. Otherwise dump it now so you can reuse the jar.


Leaving it for monitoring is fine it will thicken up and appear more like clean spawn. Then it gets used and fucks a tub.
As soon as you start tossing bad spawn like that you'll spend a lot less time seeing green




i think im just gonna toss them. i do have pretty many jars but some of them have thicken up. none of that blueish shit has spread but it also hasnt gone away. I can post some pics if you want to see.




Post a pic of the jar.  If it hasn't spread it isn't anything but bruising at this point.  IMO, I would not toss the jar.  Keep it and fruit it when it is 100% in it's own separate container.  Check my signature for mini casing or the cup o shrooms.




alright ill just post pics of all the jars i have like 18 most from the same master jar.

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24719886 - 10/18/17 03:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Plus, I want to see mushboy eat a shirt.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24719910 - 10/18/17 04:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:mostinteresting:

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24719953 - 10/18/17 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Jar 1


Jar 2


Jar 3


Jar 4


Jar 5


Jar 6


Jar 7


Jar 8


Jar 9



Edited by Pinball24 (10/18/17 04:41 PM)

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24719987 - 10/18/17 04:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Plus, I want to see mushboy eat a shirt.



Mushboy was going ban for a week
I was eating the shirt if someone posted 100 quarts of grain spawn all inoculated with MS syringe and not a single one can contaminate.

@pinball24
Those jars look like the only way you'll see fruits is casing and top fruiting

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24719993 - 10/18/17 04:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh that's right, he said banned for a month.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24720037 - 10/18/17 04:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Plus, I want to see mushboy eat a shirt.



Mushboy was going ban for a week
I was eating the shirt if someone posted 100 quarts of grain spawn all inoculated with MS syringe and not a single one can contaminate.

@pinball24
Those jars look like the only way you'll see fruits is casing and top fruiting



so if i spawned them to monotubs just case them? what do you mean by top fruiting?

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24720155 - 10/18/17 05:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
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Citric said:
Plus, I want to see mushboy eat a shirt.



Mushboy was going ban for a week
I was eating the shirt if someone posted 100 quarts of grain spawn all inoculated with MS syringe and not a single one can contaminate.

@pinball24
Those jars look like the only way you'll see fruits is casing and top fruiting



so if i spawned them to monotubs just case them? what do you mean by top fruiting?




He means case and fruit in the jars.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Piaseski]
    #24720198 - 10/18/17 06:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
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Citric said:
Plus, I want to see mushboy eat a shirt.



Mushboy was going ban for a week
I was eating the shirt if someone posted 100 quarts of grain spawn all inoculated with MS syringe and not a single one can contaminate.

@pinball24
Those jars look like the only way you'll see fruits is casing and top fruiting



so if i spawned them to monotubs just case them? what do you mean by top fruiting?




He means case and fruit in the jars.




when i case them should i put the jars in a sgfc or will a monotub do

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24720329 - 10/18/17 06:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I would spawn and bulk your jars, just do them separately on any jars in question, like I mentioned in my signature the mini casing or the cup o shrooms.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24720441 - 10/18/17 07:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I would spawn and bulk your jars, just do them separately on any jars in question, like I mentioned in my signature the mini casing or the cup o shrooms.



nice just checked it out. so you just making a mini mono and casing just the grains

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24720464 - 10/18/17 07:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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if he keeps those and gets 1 flush with no green, ill ban myself for a month.




Aw shit. Whelp.  Spawn em and no green 1st flush and ill hold myself to it.

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24720470 - 10/18/17 07:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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if he keeps those and gets 1 flush with no green, ill ban myself for a month.




Aw shit. Whelp.  Spawn em and no green 1st flush and ill hold myself to it.

(i can be a real asshole:rofl: )




I haven't banned anyone in a while, other then the puppet/spammer the other day.  I call dibs.


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24720476 - 10/18/17 07:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I would spawn and bulk your jars, just do them separately on any jars in question, like I mentioned in my signature the mini casing or the cup o shrooms.



nice just checked it out. so you just making a mini mono and casing just the grains




Really didn't need to case them to be honest.  But I would definitely mix them with verm if you are not spawning.  Just goto the dollar store and get a couple little containers like I had in my mini casing.  If you are going to spawn and bulk, I'd split the jar into two containers.  Otherwise, just dump the jar in, mix it with some hydrated verm, and fruit it!


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24720480 - 10/18/17 07:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You could also dawwgy bag it!

And my wager was based off spawning..  Not top fruiting. No fair

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24720671 - 10/18/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I say spawning those is a bad bet. Leave them as intact as possible

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24721136 - 10/19/17 05:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I say spawning those is a bad bet. Leave them as intact as possible



I'll probably do both I'll just spawn and fruit in another room. I'll let you guys know how it turns out

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24736533 - 10/25/17 12:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You could also dawwgy bag it!

And my wager was based off spawning..  Not top fruiting. No fair



well i decided to just spawn all of it to shoeboxes and there looking good so far so you may end up banning yourself :laugh:

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24736656 - 10/25/17 01:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You could also dawwgy bag it!

And my wager was based off spawning..  Not top fruiting. No fair



well i decided to just spawn all of it to shoeboxes and there looking good so far so you may end up banning yourself :laugh:



:popcorn: :lol: :lmafo: :wow:


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24736658 - 10/25/17 01:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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if he keeps those and gets 1 flush with no green, ill ban myself for a month.




pics
1st flush cant have any trich anywhere
maybe ...you never know. and i was banned for 3days around that time.. so... yah. about that.:rolleyes:

ill send you a print instead.

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24736662 - 10/25/17 01:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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if he keeps those and gets 1 flush with no green, ill ban myself for a month.




pics
1st flush cant have any trich anywhere
maybe ...you never know. and i was banned for 3days around that time.. so... yah. about that.:rolleyes:

ill send you a print instead.




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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24736682 - 10/25/17 01:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Haha I'll post some pics of all of the shoeboxes before fruiting and during pinning

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24736976 - 10/25/17 03:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ill be curious too

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24739486 - 10/26/17 04:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)


Just one of the shoeboxes. I put a casing on everyone this is how most of them look I'll upload more pics later on

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Citric]
    #24739503 - 10/26/17 04:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nooo Mushboy

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: The Mycologist]
    #24739514 - 10/26/17 04:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Still has to get a flush. But ill happily keep mush to his word haha

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24739810 - 10/26/17 07:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Still has to get a flush. But ill happily keep mush to his word haha




Oh, that's all me :wink:

I'll even be nice and only place a temp MC ban, and not entire forum :wink:


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24752014 - 11/01/17 12:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'll even be nice and only place a temp MC ban, and not entire forum :wink:




thank you for your infinite grace oh wise one. only bod can play. this game isnt for you :nono:





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Still has to get a flush. But ill happily keep mush to his word haha




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to be clear i said... 1st flush with no green. as in nothin funky present before 1st flush is picked.

and OP would have to be trustworthy. otherwise this is just childish and silly.
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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #24760903 - 11/05/17 07:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Here they are

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: Pinball24]
    #24760919 - 11/05/17 07:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbinator:


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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: The Mycologist]
    #27294473 - 05/04/21 06:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hahaa... This thread needs bumping

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: StonedCatRescue]
    #27294509 - 05/04/21 07:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:lol::popcorn:

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Re: Bruising on grain jars [Re: mushboy]
    #27294522 - 05/04/21 07:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I see green in the first tub, bottom left


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