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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#24639870 - 09/18/17 05:22 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Once we're friends, if I make a sexual move
This is where you're going wrong IMO. As a male, you must remember that it is the female that makes the choice. She needs to fall for you first, and then sex will follow quite naturally. The cues as to when she has are really not hard to pick up on, and if you 'make a sexual move' without those cues, you're going to fuck the situation entirely.
Sounds like you're young and not sure of yourself, and in that situation, you're going to have difficulty getting a woman to fall for you. I suggest getting to know yourself properly and becoming confident in yourself rather than trying to play this 'game' you seem to want to play, else you're just going to remain confused and fail time and time again.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#24642492 - 09/18/17 09:43 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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Anonymous said: Once we're friends, if I make a sexual move
This is where you're going wrong IMO. As a male, you must remember that it is the female that makes the choice. She needs to fall for you first, and then sex will follow quite naturally. The cues as to when she has are really not hard to pick up on, and if you 'make a sexual move' without those cues, you're going to fuck the situation entirely.
Sounds like you're young and not sure of yourself, and in that situation, you're going to have difficulty getting a woman to fall for you. I suggest getting to know yourself properly and becoming confident in yourself rather than trying to play this 'game' you seem to want to play, else you're just going to remain confused and fail time and time again.
I hate the game, I don't want to play it honestly. But I feel like I have to.
I kind of feel like a light bulb just went off in my head with that first paragraph though. I need to find a lot more switches though before I'll truly find satisfaction.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#24642985 - 09/19/17 04:37 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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The thing is, when a girl gives u a signal that they are interested in sex, the signs are always "cloaked". It will NEVER be direct. Never be explicit.
In my past, the cues are often the girl has a "special interest" in u. Like u somehow fascinate her. Thats the best way to describe. Kinda like awe and wonder. Very hard to pick it.
Keep looking for clues. Dont be afraid to attempt to gamble the relationship. Women want u to make the firet move.
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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#24643001 - 09/19/17 04:54 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: I hate the game, I don't want to play it honestly. But I feel like I have to.
So don't man!! I think you'll find women will respect you more for it - well, higher quality women anyway - and you can discover the magic of what it means to be true to yourself and stand apart from the crowd.
Fuck peer pressure. Fuck what your friends are doing. Be your own man, go your own way. Cultivate your confidence brother!
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LogicaL Chaos said: In my past, the cues are often the girl has a "special interest" in u. Like u somehow fascinate her.
Absolutely. You can see it in the eyes when it happens.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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cint
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 2
#24648290 - 09/21/17 06:40 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Frankly i'd cut all ties with your 'friend'. He sounds like a manipulative piece of shit, who also happens to be a repressed homosexual.
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: cint] 1
#24650775 - 09/22/17 01:30 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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cint said: Frankly i'd cut all ties with your 'friend'. He sounds like a manipulative piece of shit, who also happens to be a repressed homosexual.
He's a good friend of mine and quite frankly, I've improved myself a lot by hanging out with him so I don't think this one little thing is enough to cut him off. I may not be comfortable with jacking a guy off but its not something that's going to scar me for life or anything. If anything, waking up early and getting out of bed is more uncomfortable than that. Its weird, before I did that I would have definitely thought that it would be hard to jack a guy off because I'd be so uncomfortable but what I really felt was mostly nothing. I think I might have left this out but when he told me to grab his dick the first night. He asked me what I felt, and I said it felt like nothing and he said that was good. I felt uncomfortable with it but not as much as I would've thought I'd feel before I did it, but its kind of like, if you just somehow forgot that its a dick, it wouldn't be any different from holding any other cylinder shaped object.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Anonymous #1]
#24650825 - 09/22/17 02:59 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah. Just pretend its your dick on someone elses body 
Human sexuality is on a spectrum. Most people or straight or gay, but some are both and all ranges. Nothing wrong with that.
If hes a good friend to u, then continue the friendship. Just let him know that u are not so desperate as to jack him off to enter a threesum with a woman. He'll understand and wont be so butthurt.
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#24679825 - 10/02/17 11:31 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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So major update here:
He offered to pay me $100 every time I agree to let him fuck me, and I accepted it so we've had sex several times now. The first time it was really hard, but after that I kind of just feel like "Alright I'll just let him do his business on top of me and get a fat load of cash afterwards." Now I'm just very frank about it whenever he brings it up. When we're around other people though we hide our sexual arrangement very well. I practically forget that I'm fucking him whenever we're not alone together. This arrangement hasn't changed how we act around each other in public at all. But if I'm alone with him all he wants to talk about is fucking me. He doesn't actually penetrate me though, he sucks my dick and puts his dick between my ass cheeks and thrusts. He also kisses my ass and my neck a lot.
The way this arrangement ended up happening was that I came back from a party one night, and I told him and another friend I was hanging out with about this really hot girl who grinded and made out with me a lot. Its a long story but I was really turned on and horny because holy shit that was an amazing make out session. We didn't fuck but it was still amazing. Anyway though, later that evening he called me into his room and started begging to suck my dick. I mean he was literally whimpering and saying "please let me." I couldn't turn him down cause I know what it feels like to be sexually frustrated and desperate for something. I was actually going to let him do it for free but then he blurted out "I'll pay you $100, its the least I can do."
He also wanted to put his dick between my ass though so I let him do that too and he started whispering in my ear. For the sake of the story we'll refer to the girl I was making out with at the party as "Sally." So he said, "you want Sally to fuck you don't you, you really want her to fuck you, you want her to dominate you and suck on you like a lollipop." He said that telling him and my other friend about Sally made him jealous, then he said my ass was so amazing and smooth that girls must love it.
Its kind of weird for me cause I've always thought I was straight, but how can I say I'm straight when I've turned into a prostitute who lets another guy fuck him? I mean, I don't feel any attraction towards him, he literally put on porn for me one time because my dick wouldn't get hard enough for him to suck. But, at the same time, I'm having sex with a guy? Maybe not penetrative, but still sex. I'm certainly not gay because I am very attracted to girls, but I kind of feel like you have to be a little bi to let a guy fuck you? But how can I be bi if I'm not at all attracted to him and have never been attracted to another guy? Is it possible to be straight but have sex with a guy? That seems completely contradictory but a lot of things I previously thought were true about sexual orientation is getting shattered right now. I mean, people do things they're more uncomfortable with than I am for money. Certainly doesn't mean they like it. I guess being bi means you have to like it? I only really care about the money I'm getting from it, and when my friend was begging me I just felt sorry for him and wanted to end his suffering. He knows that this isn't turning me on though so that's why he's paying me, he struggles with my dick when he tries to suck it because it won't get hard.
I asked him if I was the first guy he's ever been attracted to and he denied being attracted to me. He said he was hypersexual and so horny that he was willing to fuck anybody at any moment. The thing is, I seriously doubt he is hypersexual. He pursues girls' very lazily and isn't willing to expend much effort into fucking them. He is also a workaholic and works so much he pretty much has no time to pursue them. I feel like his indifference towards a lot of girls is actually the exact reason why he gets laid so easily. Not only that but when he does have sex, he wants to dump her as soon as possible. He one time told me its almost always once or twice and no more after that. A truly hypersexual person would want sex with lots of people but would want sex many times every day so they would try to have some way of making sure they can be fucking as much as possible whereas he doesn't give himself a sexual safety net at all. Hypersexual people often don't work very much because they spend so much time pursuing sex, its pretty much the only thing they want to do.
I'm getting the feeling that he is completely lying about being hypersexual, and that he actually is closer along the bisexuality spectrum to being gay than heterosexual. I can tell he still finds girls hot but he is putting in way more effort towards having sex with me than possibly all the girls he has fucked combined. Since the arrangement began he's been wanting sex every day whereas he definitely doesn't treat his female hookups that way.
I guess I'm just looking for some clarification on what you think is happening or comments. I'm actually fine with our arrangement as long as he continues to pay me. I can't talk with any of my real life friends about this though for obvious reasons.
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Anonymous #1]
#24679917 - 10/03/17 12:26 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're both bi and this is a weird situation where none of you seem to take it for what it is, a man getting sucked off by another man.. great friend you've got there, he's now your pimp.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Anonymous #1]
#24680175 - 10/03/17 05:25 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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What an odd turn of events.
But it sounds like both of u get something out of it, so i guess its all good.
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#24684632 - 10/04/17 08:44 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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OP, seems like you are going to eventually let him put it in your pooper. Dude is paying you $100 to suck your dick, the least you could do is let him get his jollys off.
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Anonymous #3]
#24684900 - 10/04/17 10:51 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: You're both bi and this is a weird situation where none of you seem to take it for what it is, a man getting sucked off by another man.. great friend you've got there, he's now your pimp.
This post cracked me up
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Anonymous #5]
#24684902 - 10/04/17 10:53 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: OP, seems like you are going to eventually let him put it in your pooper. Dude is paying you $100 to suck your dick, the least you could do is let him get his jollys off.
He does, he gets his jolly off by rubbing his dick between my ass. I just haven't been penetrated yet but I'm pretty sure he's tried.
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koods
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Re: I'm so confused and I need some direction right now [Re: Anonymous #1]
#24685167 - 10/05/17 06:03 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow this is not how I expected it to turn out. What's twist.
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