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La Flama Blanca
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24754662 - 11/02/17 02:08 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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It certainly does have a spongy, bacterial look doesnt it? The sub was very fresh CVG, pretty damn close to perfect field capacity, smelled good ect. I probably should have bleached the cooler i pasturize in before I made this batch, though. i usually do, but all the talk i hear about coir sub being so contam resistant, i guess i got complacent. no green trays yet, guess i'll just wait and see how many flushes they push out before getting too worried.
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: La Flama Blanca]
#24755006 - 11/02/17 04:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh boy this rabbit hole is just getting deeper and deeper. I have been spending the last couple days reading and watching videos and even bought some equipment for the pf tek (Half pint jars, perlite (100 liter) and vermiculite, brown rice flour for 60-70 dollar, it's expensive to get the items here in Finland), but now I'm thinking of maybe doing the monotub instead.
I think I will do the straw substrate since I can probably easily get it where I live for cheap. Now my question is do I need a casing for straw substrate and if I do what is the easiest and simple way?
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verum subsequentis
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: Autumnides]
#24755029 - 11/02/17 04:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are isolates always perfectly symmetrical?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: verum subsequentis]
#24755037 - 11/02/17 05:03 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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verum subsequentis said: Are isolates always perfectly symmetrical?
nearly perfect at least. the homogeneous appearance is more of a telltale sign.
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verum subsequentis
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: bodhisatta]
#24755047 - 11/02/17 05:09 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks. what's the most rhizo isolate you've ever seen and did that make it less symmetric? and have you seen my isolation progress? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24741888
Edited by verum subsequentis (11/02/17 05:12 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: verum subsequentis]
#24755056 - 11/02/17 05:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea i saw that thread. Jesus Christ plates man.
Rhizo is a lot more depending on the media than the culture
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La Flama Blanca
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: bodhisatta]
#24755090 - 11/02/17 05:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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verum subsequentis said: Are isolates always perfectly symmetrical?
nearly perfect at least. the homogeneous appearance is more of a telltale sign.

how many transfers does it take you to get growth like that? and does it make a big difference in potency/yield? seems hard to justify doing 100 transfers on agar before a grow, just to get another ~ oz.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: La Flama Blanca]
#24755098 - 11/02/17 05:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Agar work doesn't do anything for potency or yield You still have to test the culture. Most isolates will suck ass. If you want potency or yield do A MS grow and clone a good mushroom
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24755117 - 11/02/17 05:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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How is growing P.E. with just verm and coir no gypsum?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: 7even]
#24755128 - 11/02/17 05:47 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Substrate doesn't dictate results.
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: bodhisatta]
#24755138 - 11/02/17 05:51 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Bodhi!
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verum subsequentis
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: bodhisatta]
#24755491 - 11/02/17 07:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Yea i saw that thread. Jesus Christ plates man.
Rhizo is a lot more depending on the media than the culture
i know that it depends on the media. I'm just curious how uniform an intensely rhizo mono culture would look
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La Flama Blanca
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: bodhisatta]
#24756701 - 11/03/17 11:02 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Agar work doesn't do anything for potency or yield You still have to test the culture. Most isolates will suck ass. If you want potency or yield do A MS grow and clone a good mushroom
Makes sense, the cultures i've done 15+ transfers on have sometimes underperformed vs ones i only did a couple transfers. So what is the point in cultivating an isolate, then? novelty?
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: La Flama Blanca]
#24756809 - 11/03/17 11:47 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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La Flama Blanca said:
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bodhisatta said: Agar work doesn't do anything for potency or yield You still have to test the culture. Most isolates will suck ass. If you want potency or yield do A MS grow and clone a good mushroom
Makes sense, the cultures i've done 15+ transfers on have sometimes underperformed vs ones i only did a couple transfers. So what is the point in cultivating an isolate, then? novelty?
well u have to find an isolate that doesnt suck first. when u have that, u can consistantly expect the best performance.
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: Munchauzen]
#24757441 - 11/03/17 04:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do these looked contaminated? The growth looks awfully fuzzy.
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: KidMyco4296] 1
#24757631 - 11/03/17 06:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see anything indicating a contaminate.
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: Munchauzen]
#24759083 - 11/04/17 11:37 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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What monotub tek do you guys use for cubes? What makes it superior? I’d like a few responses from tcs
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: D3v1ll]
#24759094 - 11/04/17 11:42 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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How do you guys clean out your monotubs for reuse?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: 7even]
#24759124 - 11/04/17 11:52 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wet rag or paper towel and my shower sprayer. Sometimes all it takes is the sprayer
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D3v1ll said: What monotub tek do you guys use for cubes? What makes it superior? I’d like a few responses from tcs
Most TCs have made a monotub tek so probably do it like they do
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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: bodhisatta]
#24759181 - 11/04/17 12:19 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you!
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