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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ferather]
    #25873913 - 03/14/19 03:29 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

So is layering better than mixing the spawn all in like normal?

Just spawned my azure shoebox to 30 quarts of sub outside. And my stuntzii/ovoid/cyans/allennii/tamps/hoog are all germinating well on cakes. Gonna be a good fuckin year!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25874030 - 03/14/19 04:44 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

You spawned outside?  What are your temps like right now Psilosopherr?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: SunnyDayze]
    #25874040 - 03/14/19 04:48 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

They're finally staying above freezing consistently. Thats what I was waiting for. The shoebox had been done and consolidating for a full month

I know some people say its fine to spawn in winter but it just didn't seem like it would do much if all the water was ice.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #25874334 - 03/14/19 07:19 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

I found a 'scholarly article' about growing ovoids, weird.

An excerpt where they produce a successful indoor grow by transferring outdoor mycelium inside: P. ovoideocystiata: "This grow is an attempt to simulate a hard winter, followed by a spring thaw, which produces a flood, which picks up colonized wood, and buries it in mud along the stream bank.  It was a very mild winter in 2005. We did have a few freezing days in early December, but since then the mercury has rarely fallen below freezing. 
We first collected the wild mycelium and put it in the freezer in a plastic bag. The next morning, when we removed it from the freezer, it was frozen solid; in fact, we had concerns that we may have damaged or killed the mycelia, but figured out that if it could survive being frozen in the wild, then perhaps it could survive in the freezer. 
      A collection of frozen mycelium was gathered and bagged up, as was a large bag full of the muddy sandy-like soil from along the riverbank where we collected the mycelial of P. ovoideocystidiata. 
      For this next step we used glad-ware dishes for use with the substrate of the muddy-river soil.  To insure good drainage, similar to that of the wild, we melted about twenty holes in the bottom of each of the glad-ware dishes by hating a nail with a candle and then striking it through the bottom.  We then put about an inch of river sand/mud in the bottom of each dish, followed by about an inch of frozen colonized wood chips/branches, twigs, etc.  Then we cased the top of each glad-ware container with another ½ inch of sandy mud.  Next we gave it a thorough soaking with cold tap water to wash the loose mud into the many empty spaces around the substrate. 
        Then we placed the dishes into a larger tub humidified by wet orchid moss This probably worked better than with perlite because it covered more surface area), and we were able to preserve it at room temperature near a window; often fanning and misting the tub and glad-ware containers at least several times a day.  Within ten days we were finally able to see some results of our experiment as several pins began to appear.  Workman of Spore Works Labs reported it as a “very nice grow.” "

tldr: They essentially just froze wild mycelium, thawed it, cased it, and put directly into FC indoors.

I found this interesting because don't people usually not get good results from indoor ovoids? The pic of their results looks damn fine. I wonder if this would work for other species that are hard to fruit indoors.

I love that they were surprised that something they put in a freezer froze solid. Friggin college kids


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25874512 - 03/14/19 08:54 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Interesting article.  So late in the season to do this since spring is on the way where I live in the PNW but worth trying anyway with the spawn I have.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Seeker2be]
    #25874520 - 03/14/19 08:58 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Just noticed they got these results from a mere 1 inch layer of colonized woodchips, that seems awfully shallow.

Wish they had pics of all the tubs they did so had a better idea of the results.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25874745 - 03/14/19 11:04 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

It is said mycelia fruit when it is stressed and running out of substrate so this could be true.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25875228 - 03/15/19 08:23 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

This article is by no other than J. Allen (rings a bell? "P. allenii") and J. Gartz.

> tldr: They essentially just froze wild mycelium, thawed it, cased it, and put directly into FC indoors.

Not so simple. For example, they collected some river mud and sandwiched the myc within it.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: bacillus]
    #25876543 - 03/15/19 07:59 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Ah I did not notice that about the authors, good catch.

Maybe our level of skill differs, but putting mud in a bag and then later into a tub sounds very simple. :wink: The whole point of TLDR is to simplify what was previously written in detail. Stands for "too long did not read"


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psilosopherr] * 5
    #25876987 - 03/16/19 12:39 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)



My first time fruiting Gymnopilus luteofolius - oats spawned to coir with a little oak sawdust.

Fruited exactly like cubensis, room temp. Not exactly like some other woodlovers, but quite nice looking.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: straightedge]
    #25876996 - 03/16/19 12:44 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

How's the potency? Any idea yet?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: bacillus] * 1
    #25877006 - 03/16/19 12:54 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

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bacillus said:
This article is by no other than J. Allen (rings a bell? "P. allenii") and J. Gartz.

> tldr: They essentially just froze wild mycelium, thawed it, cased it, and put directly into FC indoors.

Not so simple. For example, they collected some river mud and sandwiched the myc within it.



I think I read this although I thought it was they collected the wild mycelium from River mud froze it and then fruited it


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: sui]
    #25877019 - 03/16/19 01:02 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

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How's the potency? Any idea yet?



Bitter, but not intolerable. I don't have enough for a dose yet, just harvested some for prints.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: straightedge]
    #25877450 - 03/16/19 10:37 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

@Psilosopherr

What I wanted to convey is that fruiting ovoids indoors is not so simple, in my experience. A reproducible way to do it would be a big deal for me.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: straightedge]
    #25877611 - 03/16/19 12:11 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

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My first time fruiting Gymnopilus luteofolius - oats spawned to coir with a little oak sawdust.

Fruited exactly like cubensis, room temp. Not exactly like some other woodlovers, but quite nice looking.





Nice grow man awesome job

Shroomery potency calculator isn't accurate for the Gyms. I was left feeling barely a buzz 20 grams fresh. Never had them dried. They're disgusting tasting. I would say double what I did and make tea.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Astoriensis]
    #25877668 - 03/16/19 12:43 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Thanks Astor your timing and experience couldnt be better I am getting ready to put G. Luteofolia to grain so now I know what the substrate should be for fruiting..


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Astoriensis] * 3
    #25878353 - 03/16/19 06:44 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)



Today, rusty spores are really showing up on the caps and veil remnants.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: straightedge]
    #25878650 - 03/16/19 09:12 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)









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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: AzzA]
    #25878731 - 03/16/19 09:48 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)

Dammit I flew too close to the sun I tried to push it too long the AZZy  tub in the warm temperatures finally contaminated I’ll put it outside and it’s own separate patch I’m sure eventually it can bounce back outdoors but it looks like I’m back to square one as far as a indoor attempt it goes  😔


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25880688 - 03/17/19 08:20 PM (2 months, 6 days ago)

I'm not 100% sure this is where I should post this but lions mane is a wood lover so I'm throwing it out here. I just ordered some medium spawn bags with filters and ships, and I ordered a culture syringe from a sponsor. Now my real question starts with sterilized wood substrate, is that considered a nutrient substrate, wood chips and sawdust, or can I treat it like coir. Iv never really used bags before but its going to be a bitch to try and work in a sab with a 2kg spawn bag full of substrate. Thanks alot for any help.


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