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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TactiCool]
    #24742834 - 10/28/17 06:59 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Just some pics of a massive Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata patch.




When did you find these an is it near the east coast?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
    #24742835 - 10/28/17 07:00 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

For some strange reason my dad has the condenser and compressor for one sitting in his shop. No box, just the cooling units. I want it, BUT he doesn't know what I do so I couldn't ask until I get into production of produce so I have a legit reason to need one. I have also toyed over the idea of a swamp cooler. I figure if my basement is about 65 right now, I stand a good chance of getting it down to about 45 if done right. Not all wood lovers will fruit at that, but I could get a fair number of them to.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24743010 - 10/28/17 09:21 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

If your dad has the equipment just build a few really well insulated walls and line them with FRP or something else w a smooth surface that you can clean. Then invest in a well sealing door and closure system and you should br good to go.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
    #24743136 - 10/28/17 10:36 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

That is what I was thinking. He is just the type to NOT be ok with what I do. He has a huge issue with me smoking bud. I would have to have a legit reason to need it, which I may down the road.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24743349 - 10/28/17 12:33 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone know if subaeruginascens and/or subaeruginosa can tolerate hotter climates between 80-90F and 70-90% humidity?

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Norsern_vind] * 2
    #24743490 - 10/28/17 01:44 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Data share:

Both samples where inoculated using a wood peg from the same culture.
The recipe's are void of starch and sugars, using only cellulose.

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[Sample A]: 85g Water, 25g Paper Pellets, 1g MG, 0.12g YN, 0.5g Liquid Seaweed.
[Sample B]: 85g Water, 25g Paper Pellets, 1g MG, 0.12g YN.


Sample A:

Took 2-3 weeks to fully colonize, and a further 2-3 weeks to colonize 125g (dry), of the same recipe.

Sample B:

Took 4 months to fully colonize, and a further 2 months to colonize 125g (dry), same again.

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Next test recipe:

85g Water, 25g Paper Pellets, 2g MG, 0.25g YN, 0.5g Liquid Seaweed.


Double strength, 18:1, it's essentially cellulose grains.

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Seaweed: Beneficial bacteria, data here and here.
USDA: Seaweed, kelp, raw, 100g dry.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ferather] * 2
    #24743855 - 10/28/17 04:34 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Wood loving oyster on 50/50 (by dry weight), paper pellets and pine pellets (both are kitty litter).
Enriched via WL-Tek, with added liquid seaweed, no tea, pH balanced via CaCO3.

This is paper to paper transfer after 6-7 days, pH 7-7.5, a little wet.

     

     

     

Thick, quick, aggressive and populated.

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Lignicolous mycelium, 18 hours. WL-Tek + Tea + CaCO3 + Liquid seaweed.

     

Even debris has re-grown, and is aggressive.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ferather] * 3
    #24743905 - 10/28/17 05:16 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

WL-Tek plain + liquid seaweed (no tea, no CaCO3), as spawn, 100g paper (dry).

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WL-Tek plain (no tea, no liquid seaweed, no CaCO3), 600g (dry).


Both where assembled with 74-75% total water content.

     

     

More light, and more O2 for bigger, better caps.
That is a single base with multiple fruits.

Output was roughly 637g, two bases.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
    #24744622 - 10/29/17 01:30 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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IME sawdust and pellets get to dense. Wood lovers will jump to wood straight from grain. Even mixing small pieces of wood in your grain prep, you can see the mycilium jumping to the wood bypassing grains all together.

If your trying to make cakes, try going from grain jars to wood same time as moving to outdoors.

I personally call them Loafs! I didn't try fruiting from loafs. Theres a thread about "Myc Hearts" thats a pretty good read.

I would also like to add that i am not much of a cultivator, more of "Just try some shit" type of person. If you think about it there is really nothing to lose. You can always start again. 







I'm not trying to be a smart ass but if sawdust gets too dense, how is a solid block of wood not too dense?


EDIT: trying to look up the myc hearts thread you described but the search function is bringing up too many pages to search through. You got a year the thread was created or the OP's name or anything to help me out?




I am not understanding the solid block of wood reference? I was referring to wood chips/chunks rather than saw dust.

psylosymonreturns:
This is the user name of who wrote about myc hearts. I couldn't find the thread outlining his tek either. I will look again when i have a chance.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #24744702 - 10/29/17 03:11 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

To my knowledge it's not even known whether woodloving Psilocybes even penetrate into solid wood blocks or not. I have seen one thread where a guy put Ovoid myc on some Willow wooden cube and the myc appeared on the other side, but my experiments with Cyans and Ovoids indicate that they don't actually penetrate into the wood.

Any more insight on this topic would be really valuable.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas]
    #24744791 - 10/29/17 05:21 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Density, and lack of 02, would cause most mycelium to stay near-around the surface of solid wood.
Sawdust (coarse) will populate and produce faster than equal weight in solid wood.

The smaller the unit + O2, the faster it decays via enzymes.


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    #24744818 - 10/29/17 06:03 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: NothingsChanged] * 2
    #24744859 - 10/29/17 06:59 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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To my knowledge it's not even known whether woodloving Psilocybes even penetrate into solid wood blocks or not. I have seen one thread where a guy put Ovoid myc on some Willow wooden cube and the myc appeared on the other side, but my experiments with Cyans and Ovoids indicate that they don't actually penetrate into the wood.

Any more insight on this topic would be really valuable.




I will split the hickory chunk in this photo and maybe it will help us get to the bottom of it.



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IME sawdust and pellets get to dense. Wood lovers will jump to wood straight from grain. Even mixing small pieces of wood in your grain prep, you can see the mycilium jumping to the wood bypassing grains all together.

If your trying to make cakes, try going from grain jars to wood same time as moving to outdoors.

I personally call them Loafs! I didn't try fruiting from loafs. Theres a thread about "Myc Hearts" thats a pretty good read.

I would also like to add that i am not much of a cultivator, more of "Just try some shit" type of person. If you think about it there is really nothing to lose. You can always start again. 







I'm not trying to be a smart ass but if sawdust gets too dense, how is a solid block of wood not too dense?


EDIT: trying to look up the myc hearts thread you described but the search function is bringing up too many pages to search through. You got a year the thread was created or the OP's name or anything to help me out?




I am not understanding the solid block of wood reference? I was referring to wood chips/chunks rather than saw dust.

psylosymonreturns:
This is the user name of who wrote about myc hearts. I couldn't find the thread outlining his tek either. I will look again when i have a chance.




Your comment about sawdust and paper pellets being too dense confuses me. I'm just trying to keep up w your thought process.

My questioning is that if a manufactured wooden based substrate (artificial log) would contain material that is too dense for the myc to penetrate/colonize, how does it colonize solid chunks of wood?

It seems to me that an ideal artificial substrate could be manufactured that could contain more ideal colonization and fruiting conditions than just straight up wood chips.

I realize this may take quite a bit of experimenting but like you mentioned earlier. What's to loose? Seems like a lot could be gained if people would unite and travel down this road.



EDIT: re reading that I see that I still may not be clear. If a artificial log was created from sawdust that is too dense for the mycelium to penetrate, how is a solid log not too dense? Were you referring to the use of these pellets in compressed form?

I have been hydrating my pellets to form a saw dust.


..... Somehow I quoted and responded to you without even noticing everything you posted brother. Somehow I missed -
"I am not understanding the solid block of wood reference? I was referring to wood chips/chunks rather than saw dust."
It seems we were talking about different things and I didn't realize it. Guess I need to slow down, lol.

Thanks for the help


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
    #24744894 - 10/29/17 07:30 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Amazing, never tried to cultivate psychedelic woodlovers.

thanks for sharing with us

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: svamp]
    #24745028 - 10/29/17 08:52 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Mike, splitting the log would definitely give more insight! I plan to do a few experiments with this myself. In the near future hopefully.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ferather] * 4
    #24745721 - 10/29/17 02:36 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: catnip40]
    #24745772 - 10/29/17 03:07 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

2 months ago or earlier, can't remember, I have filled 2 flowerpots with wood and Ovoid mycelium. I have barely watered it, but the weather was usually rainy enough. Today I have gotten an idea for which I could use the small flowerpot, so I decided to check for mycelium. I have removed the dirt, which was totally uncolonized, but belowed it were woodchips CEMENTED together with mycelium!

The Ovoid myc not only survived, but colonized the wood chips. I immediately brought the flowerpot inside, I'll case it with something nitrogenous (probably grass) and try to fruit it indoors. Should be fun!

I'll leave the big flowerpot outside and wait until spring before I do anything. But I'll probably case it with some grass, too.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: catnip40] * 1
    #24745786 - 10/29/17 03:18 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Here is another way I thought of to try and explain a solid lump of wood, I hope this helps.

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Using just your fingers, which of the following scenarios are true:

A: You can dig through a layer of loose bark, to get to the dirt under it.
B: You can dig into very coarse sawdust or coarse paper.
C: You can dig into a tree or solid log.

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You just made two jars of your favorite seed-grain spawn.

Jar A: You place a marble in the middle center, and squish all of the grains into one lump.
Jar B: You prepare as normal, placing a small marble in the middle center.

You add mycelium to the top center, which one can get to the marble the quickest?

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Using magic you teleport a marble to the center of a tree, how long does that take?

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Not having a bash, just pointing out a solid lump will take a while.
However if that is what you desire, then I have no arguments.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ferather]
    #24745833 - 10/29/17 03:45 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Nice find catnip!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: eatyualive] * 2
    #24745910 - 10/29/17 04:30 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)



EDIT/UPDATE:

Upon further inspection it appears that the mycelium colonized an existing crack and did not penetrate this block as I had originally suspected.


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