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Ferather
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Lovely, I'm in.
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Here is a cyan sample on a tea bag, they like leaves. It grew very well, medium in speed.

Composition of tea leaves, for nutritional analysis.
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Psilocybe semilanceata would need grass, other species might not need anything, so species dependent.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adden] 1
#24675536 - 10/01/17 01:40 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is interesting, I have only attempted Cyans when it comes to active lignicolous species, and therefore still very new to the subject. I read this before attempting it, which said that fruiting was triggered by a drop in temperature, like King oyster, 10-18 °C.
I can tell you it likes the exact same methods, substrates and fruiting system (cool temps) as King oyster. Unfortunately both King oyster and Cyans are an issue for me due to the required temperature.
I can only grow them seasonally and outdoors, which is not really what I wanted.
Germination also requires cool temperatures, colonize @ 24°C.
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I'm going to try a plant pot with a cake, or tub with a block, but I am not sure which yet. The cake or block will be a substrate I use on gourmet woodloving species.

You get some seriously deep and rich colour outdoors.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mycobolical] 1
#24678038 - 10/02/17 12:55 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mycobolical said: ...How resilient is the Mycelium?...
Highly resistant, more than some oysters. Cyans I found to be more like tanks or bulldozers in growth. Inhibitory effects, and high ratios, that slow down oyster's to a crawl, does little to cyans.
In my side-by-side oyster dropped to 25% of full speed, cyan ran at full speed.
I used a black tea bag, 3% nitrogen and lots of inhibitory materials.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#24678167 - 10/02/17 02:01 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm going to offload my basic cyan spore activation tests I ran, after reading about temperature based activation. Hopefully someone can improve this post or add better data, but here is what I have at the moment.
Firstly I read about spores activating on aged or decaying fruit tissue, usually the cap. I later thought, and read, that many species will germinate at fruiting temps.
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So that would put me at 10-18°C for spore activation, so I ran 12°C. I found an area in my fridge suited to this temperature range.
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Some spores activate on calcium bicarbonate water.

Nearly all spores germinate in an LC.


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Here is plain calcium bicarbonate water.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ferather] 1
#24678193 - 10/02/17 02:13 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also I would suggest agar over a LC as you can isolate growth, even from contamination. If you have a print, cut a toothpick, flame it, scratch for spores, add to agar.
Alternatively use LC > cardboard or wood pellets, and transfer.
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You can also use my cellulose agar alternative (enriched). Either add trace ME, or a few drops to the spores.
This is cubensis, from spore print.

Peg transfer due to GE issues.
Edited by Ferather (10/02/17 02:27 PM)
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas]
#24680478 - 10/03/17 09:22 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Adas said: ..Yeah the Cyan mycelium is very vigorous...
..After a lot of rain the myc came out...
Those last two images are beautiful, one is grain one is wood, and they look the same. I can see the wood version, has accumulated nutrients from the top.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas] 1
#24680539 - 10/03/17 09:49 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, fair enough. Thanks for the info.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#24683022 - 10/04/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those laughing caps look very golden, That is one of the Gym's I'm looking to grow.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cronicr] 1
#24707138 - 10/13/17 12:59 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
cronicr said: This is the second time they have popped for me now. Fruiting around 60
(15.55°C)
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: johanelic] 1
#24709222 - 10/14/17 11:07 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Welcome johanelic, thanks for the post, waiting for pics.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Germs]
#24712373 - 10/15/17 04:53 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have Ovoid and Serbica spore print's yet to be used.
What agar is that, ME or PD?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24712417 - 10/15/17 05:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I knew about the low temps (cyan research), thanks for the verification.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adden]
#24713584 - 10/16/17 08:12 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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On another forum, I have seen wood extractive liquid cultures that germinate wood lovers (lignin, tannin's etc). As far as I know all you do is soak some wood or wood chips in boiling water and use the extracts.
I have been tempted to try this myself, although my T-Gel pretty much already does this.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24714265 - 10/16/17 01:49 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adden]
#24719248 - 10/18/17 11:23 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've updated my journal, It's pretty universal to cellulose, but then even cubensis decay cellulose in substrates. The optional tea will replace lignin, tannin's, so on, which is removed during paper processing.
The requirement for paper is not absolute, wood, straw and other materials also work. If your wood is too acidic, dissolve CaCO3 into your hydration water.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cronicr]
#24719309 - 10/18/17 11:54 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I envy you, I cannot sustain the correct temperatures indoors without running equipment, and increasing the cost. There is a bacteria I wanted to test on active species, I have only tried it on gourmet, see here.
The results where outstanding, so I really want to try this on for example indoor Cyans. I'm being sent some laughing gyms, as spores, so I will try that at some point.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cronicr] 1
#24719315 - 10/18/17 11:58 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is there a forum section or post with a list of room-warm fruiting woodloving types, with data on potency?
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