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TheMadHatter420
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24643202 - 09/19/17 07:33 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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@ Spotter, are you running cakes or running tubes/trays(BULK)?
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Spotter
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24643261 - 09/19/17 07:59 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been trying everything currently I've got 2 jars of cased grains and 3 shoeboxes and about 15 quarts of colonizing grain.
This is all expanded from a Multispore syringe. It's not perfectly clean, as my psyconaut squirrels can attest. I've never seen a pin.
As well I have some trays and jars of gourmet mushrooms. Those are fruiting well.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Nobler Hino]
#24643291 - 09/19/17 08:19 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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PsiloPsychIn said:One particularly noteworthy alternative not so obvious entry ... and I'm really hoping this isn't a memorial....
Nobler Hino in the face of Hurricane Irma shared his prideu.
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Nobler Hino said: all is well folks, another cat 5 hitting us tomorrow. bring it on!
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Spotter]
#24643453 - 09/19/17 09:53 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spotter said: I've been trying everything currently I've got 2 jars of cased grains and 3 shoeboxes and about 15 quarts of colonizing grain.
This is all expanded from a Multispore syringe. It's not perfectly clean, as my psyconaut squirrels can attest. I've never seen a pin.
As well I have some trays and jars of gourmet mushrooms. Those are fruiting well.
So your putting spores straight to grain, and not using agar? Just asking, but you are using a pressure cooker right? If you are using spores straight to grain, and NO agar, that is a HUGE part of your problem. We can guide you in the right direction. Using a spore syringe is best used on cakes. I have had some rather good luck with cakes. ALSO with a spore syringes, less really is better as the more solution you use, the more contamination your putting into the jar. ALL SPORE SYRINGES HAVE SOME LEVEL OF CONTAMINATIONS! They can NOT be 100% clean as spores themselves carry contamination with them.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24643591 - 09/19/17 11:07 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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My first tub and cakes were straight from a spore syringe. Now I'm on 3rd and 4th transfers on agar. I think ive got clean agar now.
All my grains are suspect my first agar looked great but it definitely had a hitchhiker.

My mycelium no longer eats the blue dye in my agar.

I've got some spores from a new print on agar; this time I'm hoping to do a lot better.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Spotter]
#24643606 - 09/19/17 11:15 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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The one on the right looks weird. If it gets little dots of yellowish liquid burn it with fire. I just think it's more likely there's something in the dish it doesn't like and could use a transfer. I'm a bit new to agar sill so someone else may know more.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24643766 - 09/19/17 12:52 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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I confess I just did a bad thing. I didn't realize one of the top bags had gotten a tiny hole in it. I had already started massaging the lions mane spawn in when I noticed the leak. I was like fuck it and folded the plastic and slapped boxing tape on it. They were sitting in front of the hepa cooling so hopefully that tiny particle of fungi didn't find it's way in. 
But now for some good news. That fucking oyster is already starting to flourish. It's been only ten hours and I can see it spreading. Dang those blue oysters are easy and aggressive.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24644808 - 09/19/17 07:25 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Confession. Sticking thermometer into casing bag to measure heat during pasteurization and poked a hole through the bag. Put a grocery bag around it and am hoping for the best
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PsiloPsychIn
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Which pasteurizing Tek are you using? Try eatyualive's Tek and your worries are over.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#24644981 - 09/19/17 08:24 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Psilo!!!
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#24645350 - 09/19/17 10:43 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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PsiloPsychIn said: Which pasteurizing Tek are you using? Try eatyualive's Tek and your worries are over.
im using azurs, ill check out eats tek!
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Eat's is a bit less complicated... (note the tek is focused on pasteurizing substrate, but it will work just the same for casing)
Here you go: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20822448
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Edited by PsiloPsychIn (09/19/17 10:48 PM)
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#24645362 - 09/19/17 10:49 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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I confess I really am missing cultivation.
I only have two back burner kind of projects going and I have not done agar or grain work for months.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#24645369 - 09/19/17 10:53 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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PsiloPsychIn said: Eat's is a bit less complicated... (note the tek is focused on pasteurizing substrate, but it will work just the same for casing)
Here you go: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20822448
alright thanks, gonna make another monotub next week, will use eats tek... p.s. while you havent been doing agar for months, ive made over 50 transfer in the past few weeks
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#24645374 - 09/19/17 10:55 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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PsiloPsychIn said: I confess I really am missing cultivation.
I only have two back burner kind of projects going and I have not done agar or grain work for months.
id whip up some agar and germinate some old random ass spores you have laying around. get back in the saddle.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: mushboy]
#24645383 - 09/19/17 11:04 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cakes and bottle culturing are really great options if you don't have a lot of time to spare for cultivation, but still want to keep your feet wet.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24645803 - 09/20/17 06:11 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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I really love doing cakes. I find them really fun for some reason. I am trying to figure out how to consistently get 7g+(dried) from each of my pint cakes. I use grains in mine so I know there is plenty of nutrition in them. So I have started backing down the nutrition and upping my substrate a bit. Since water is limiting factor with cakes, more substrate should help increase water retention.
I knocked up 20 with some old LC last night and have another 20 to knock up tonight. The 1st 20 were made with 6 cups(before hydration) Whole brown rice. The second set was backed down to 4 cups for some comparison. I wanted to put some water retaining crystals in there, but couldn't find any locally so that has to wait for another time.
After looking at toms bag grows recently, I have the urge to build a steam sterilizer and just rock out a shit tone of substrate cakes in bags like his. Probably wont happen, but would be similar to how some people produce their oysters.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24645912 - 09/20/17 07:18 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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TheMadHatter420 said: I really love doing cakes. I find them really fun for some reason. I am trying to figure out how to consistently get 7g+(dried) from each of my pint cakes. I use grains in mine so I know there is plenty of nutrition in them. So I have started backing down the nutrition and upping my substrate a bit. Since water is limiting factor with cakes, more substrate should help increase water retention.
Interesting Cakes are fun because they are so easy to experiment with.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: LeopardMan]
#24645930 - 09/20/17 07:32 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right! Having it all in one, fully sterilized, makes it much easier to get results. Yes 7G/pint is half of our goal of an OZ/QT that we have with grains, BUT there is no spawning. The substrate is figured into the equation of the cake, butt not the QT of grain. I should try to track the actually BE of my cakes at some point. I think I will do that once I get me a good LGT clone.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24645940 - 09/20/17 07:36 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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with pint sized kramer cakes I was getting 11-14g's dry per cake
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