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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24640279 - 09/18/17 09:25 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

most of the surface has matured. noticed this morning huge stems crawling up the tub, hope they dont tear up the sub but :crazy2:

some big ass side pins, I think most of the big mushies weighed 20ish g wet, just been harvesting as they mature, getting close to side pins and hoping for a third flush.

Finally have some time today to test out the new SAB I made this weekend, 90qt for extra. Making an expansion of a culture, knocking up 2 more bags with the same GT culture as I only have 8ml in this clean syringe. Figured 2-3ml each 1lb bag or 2-3ml for a culture jar. If I go with 2ml each I could do 3 grain bags. The bag that I inoculated 8/23 is done with only one shake at 30 and that was done with 2ml, so I'm considering 3 in each. I actually just realized the syringe might be 4ml...

Breaking through the anxiety and making pasty plates, I have 4 packs but dont want to over do it this time haha.

Question: I usually do all my work in a small bathroom, therefore my SAB was very small to fit on the counter in between my two sinks. This new SAB is WAY longer and a 1/2-1" taller so im considering using the lid as a bottom? maybe put some weight on the top evenly to make sure the box is pressed hard against the tub. I lysol the room about 15-30 mins before I begin work, cover vents, shut doors and put towels against the openings between the ground and door to get as still of air as possible. I have my work inside the box sometimes everythng wiped down with iso. (WAY too small for anything other than a few things. hence the new bin.

Should I continue for now with my small box until I'm dealing with bulk? I could only fit one 1lb bag, a LC jar, and sterile supplies in the box, with my torch outside the box. another HUGE problem I have with this SAB is because I accidentally made it like a monotub so the arm holes are on the short sides and its almost impossible to work in.

Or should I try a different room in my house with a surface that my 90qt bin will fit on and just say fuck the lysol, turn off heat/air and try to be as careful as possible? Its funny but I dont have many places that I can put it. All of the rooms that have surfaces like that are big and collect dust, lots of open air. I felt more safe in an enclosed area. I overthink things a lot, I'd just really like an up to date opinion. Mushrooms seem to like my house but I have had inoculation troubles last time I tried, but I was always using MS. As long as I'm using sterile procedures with gloves and sometimes the arm cloth things all wiped down with iso, slightly dry and get to work.

I'm assuming the only way to know is to try. Its just too cramped in that bathroom but Id have to use the lid as a surface. the box would go over to the middle of the two sinks which would not work lol.

Edited by waxbrain (09/18/17 10:16 AM)

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24640398 - 09/18/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

1. stop being a pussy and make the jello. make a lot of it. like more than you think is reasonable. man up.

2. never do sab in a bathroom. ive done it on my dinning room table. spare bedroom. basements. never a bathroom:nono:

3. use whatever sab is more convenient/comfortable for the given task.

nice grow though:thumbup: a lot of good advice was given. one time you asked if you had cobweb :wutermelon:

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*have a fun day at work. but id quit so i could grow more mushrooms:heart:

ps. that poly looks way to dense. go find gentle surgical tape/micropore tape. 2 layer bottom holes. 1 layer top.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: mushboy]
    #24640450 - 09/18/17 10:52 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mushboy said:
1. stop being a pussy and make the jello. make a lot of it. like more than you think is reasonable. man up.

2. never do sab in a bathroom. ive done it on my dinning room table. spare bedroom. basements. never a bathroom:nono:

3. use whatever sab is more convenient/comfortable for the given task.

nice grow though:thumbup: a lot of good advice was given. one time you asked if you had cobweb :wutermelon:

:amusedapplause:

*have a fun day at work. but id quit so i could grow more mushrooms:heart:

ps. that poly looks way to dense. go find gentle surgical tape/micropore tape. 2 layer bottom holes. 1 layer top.




Hey now! just getting back into growing, play nice :whiteflag:

I am gonna PC plates today, promise, gotta break out the cooker haha. I am being an agar pussy. the woman doesnt want me to go too hard so her seeing me prep 32 containers would make her angry lol (ive explained agar to her i just dont think she understands). shes fine with everything I can just tell sometimes she wants to rip my head off or something lmao, then she sees pins and is like AWWWW.

THAT MYCELIUM LOOKED WEIRD LOL. im sure any noob would think it was strange.

I've seen the micropore tape. for monotubs, is the tek 2 strips on the bottom holes going from bottom to top covering about 2/3 of the hole with the tape touching eachother, and one micropore strip on the bottom half of the top holes? will search the tek but do you have a preference? I thought the poly worked fine, but I'm sure youre right

I learned a lot during this grow, it was my first pretty successful monotub (not compared to members here but) it was fun and youre right. Lots of advice was given and could be useful to some in the future as well!


(update at bottom)
mushboy, you say you do SAB anywhere. Do you do standard procedures, just clean the SAB soap & water maybe a little 70% iso, wipe down surface with 70% iso, maybe turn off heat/ac. do you use lysol at all around the area? I'm sure you can remember being nervous trying new things in this hobby haha. Im gonna use the bar or counter i my kitchen, I think the basement bar would be a little more risky IMparanoidO.

I've always used a very clean bathroom to do my innoculations. the small SAB is very uncomfortable so your reassurance makes EVERYTHING less stressful. Ill finally have room and wont be sweating balls.

I wish I didnt over think things but this is the one thing I spend money on as a hobby now on a low pay.
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Just gonna use bods tek in combination with turning air/heat off - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23990913

forgot about the soapy water.


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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24641235 - 09/18/17 03:55 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

How the hell am I gonna get these off without tearing the substrate to death?



There are big side pins that go down to the bottom and are attached like crazy. I'm gonna lose so much precious fruit if I just cut as low as I can haha. Not getting ahead of myself but I hope there's a third flush

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24641245 - 09/18/17 03:59 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

get the top ones and pop the sub out of the tub, just make sure you support it with ample surface area so it doesn't break


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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24641316 - 09/18/17 04:26 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I know that, tub in tub works best imo I'm just worried the ones that are embedded in the sub will tear it apart even when trying to use scissors

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24643220 - 09/19/17 07:43 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

so two questions - this flush is over after i harvest all the rest of the mature mush on the surface correct? I'm posting a pic from above to show pins on substrate, some of the sides have fat pins as well. Should I fully harvest surface (including pins) then harvest side/bottom [(including pins) or should I leave the fat side ones)]. How do you guys harvest pins that are super tiny in big groups? Tweezers or just screw them? Will finish up the harvest after work (I thought surface would be fully done over night so I planned to do it this morning. I hope there's weight on the sides, looks like it. Praying for third flush.



Cant wait for my next grow - hopefully 3 tubs with smaller depth sushave quite a bit of golden teacher spawn colonizing. (hopefully) 8lbs of spawn, may do one more bag. Each tub will get approximately 3 lbs of spawn to 5lbs of 50/50 substrate. Will make sure my spawn is spread as even as possible & make sure to pack the substrate evenly to create an even pinset for each tub. With this one it was very uneven, and the substrate was too high. The spawn run has started though, the test 1lb bag is beautiful, just busted it up last night and its already recovering like crazy. wish me luck guys! I'll be asking less questions lol. :heart:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24644019 - 09/19/17 02:27 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

So here is prior to harvest all around the tub. I guess I'll just chop the pins/mush off the top then tub in tub to get the substrate out. I never got an answer about the side pins starting, I'll show a pic of those too but I figure you just harvest them? Sucks there's some chubby pins on top too that I don't want to kill :sad: but you gotta do what you gotta do. Is it gonna be a PITA or do I not have to use tweezers? Or should I leave them since the substrate has shrank so much?




Those tiny pins are everywhere around the substrate, crazy.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24644211 - 09/19/17 03:28 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

last attempt for respones, I just think it's too many side pins, pics above
About to harvest if anyone could give me input on tiny sidepins? I don't want to wreck possible weight. Am I tweezering or leaving them since the sub shrank so much. The tiny pins on top I'm upset about but I get inducing a flush. Those little guys on the side though? There's just SO many. Harvest everything except pins and spray HEAVY?

PS: i hear just pick me everything but i don't want to ruin possible bigger 3rd
Btw I have BO during sleep let's just put it out there, so my room sometimes smells like BO if I had a bad night. But the past two days I've came in it has smelled like BO/Mushrooms/maybe sour so this might be the end after I give it a good inspect. I can take pictures

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24644771 - 09/19/17 07:11 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

do what you will. at this point, especially since you have weight and more spawn colonizing I would say fuck it and get what you care to get... after 2 flushes I don't give a fuck about the sub I destroy what I need to in order to get the rest. flip it and you're


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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24646086 - 09/20/17 08:45 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I actually managed to get it pretty well without tearing it up too much. Maybe I'll some more out of it. It soaked up a lot of water so we'll see.

I am looking forward to my current ventures for sure.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain] * 1
    #24646116 - 09/20/17 08:58 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I purposely didn't answer the side pin question because I knew you'd figure it out :mushroom2:
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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24646151 - 09/20/17 09:15 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

LOL, I figured you just wanted me to figure out my questions. I just did the absolute best I could

I didnt tweezer the lil ones because I had a thought they might grow but anything bigger were cut. We'll see how it performs, like I said it sucked up a hell of a lot of water when I HEAVILY sprayed it.. maybe I should do more after work. Sub still smelled fine so I am not burying it yet!

Praying for ALL my grain to colonize without problem. May do more for backup.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24646503 - 09/20/17 11:55 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I think that's why a lot of people ignored it... you got this far, surely you can figure out some side pins


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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24646507 - 09/20/17 11:56 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

the best thing to do while waiting is start more projects!


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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24646976 - 09/20/17 03:46 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I have so far:

Three 1lb bags with GT LC - one fully colonized

One 5lb bag with GT LC - looks like it's wet/bacterial but we'll see. (Suckssss)

Tomorrow I'm going to make up for the 5lber and do six 1lb bags. Also prep pastyplates.

I am also planning on doing a little experiment with MS  and continuing with agar.

Hope everyone's having a great night. Can't wait to finish up with bags and get back into the pc game!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24655790 - 09/24/17 11:33 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Third flush started though I don't think much will come of it.



Btw under no conditions will I ever buy preprepaired spawn again. Holes, wet grain, bacteria every time. This is just terrible.

Knocking up a bunch of Alacabenzie grain tonight.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24658306 - 09/25/17 09:28 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Could have a monster or two. Do you think i should bury this tub after this flush? I need to make room for more tubs and I've heard anything past third is very poor. Maybe Ill get some fruits next year

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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: waxbrain]
    #24659474 - 09/25/17 05:16 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

next year? :justno: unless that's other projects that's not going to happen. you can get more fruits this year if you redirect your efforts to fresh spawn


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Re: Monotub Grow Log - Alacabenzi (Tub pics, first tub) [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24661021 - 09/26/17 09:16 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

31 wet and 28 wet monsters (for me) & most of the rest of my 3rd flush, got some pins on top but i think thisll be it for this substrate.


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