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 Baby_Hitler
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 Blood for oil: Good or bad? 
#2462884 - 03/23/04 03:11 AM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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This thread isn't about whether or not the gulf wars were or were not about oil. If you want to talk about that then either start another thread, or bump one of the 6,934 threads about it.
This is about whether it is acceptable for a country (i.e. America) to invade another country in order to secure a commodity that it needs to maintain it's financial security.
Would it be wrong even if we did invade Iraq because of oil?
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2462890 - 03/23/04 03:17 AM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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If we want a commodity, we should pay for it.
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Exactly. So do you actually think oil wasnt the main reason for attacking Iraq luv?(sorry for the slight veer off topic baby hitler!)
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2463288 - 03/23/04 09:27 AM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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Definitely wrong. Like luvdem said, it should be paid for.
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For the US to invade another country for thier resources would be like bill gates knocking over the corner mart for a couple of forties and whats in the cash register....do you think this is acceptable?
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2463370 - 03/23/04 10:08 AM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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armed robbery is a crime for a reason.
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2463382 - 03/23/04 10:12 AM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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Baby_Hitler writes:
This is about whether it is acceptable for a country (i.e. America) to invade another country in order to secure a commodity that it needs to maintain it's financial security.
That would be a bad thing to do.
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: GazzBut]
#2463406 - 03/23/04 10:21 AM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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Exactly. So do you actually think oil wasnt the main reason for attacking Iraq luv?(
Of course not, it was WMD 
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2466059 - 03/24/04 12:31 AM (20 years, 28 days ago) |
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attacking iraq for oil was wrong and stupid.
the energetic cost of the war is much too high compared to the "rewards". hell iraq may, if its not already, be an energetic sink. rather than a source of course
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2466192 - 03/24/04 01:20 AM (20 years, 28 days ago) |
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I think the worst part of it was the administration's attempt to have its cake and eat it too. Just say, "Hey we gotta do this... You don't wanna be paying 4 dollars a gallon, and you damn sure don't want to ride a bike around... And realllly don't want to be living in a hoover-ville...."(or rather "We have alot more to lose than you do, so your gonna fuckin shoot some iraqi's for us")...
....Instead of trying to take the moral highground.. Its realpolitik! You don't take other peoples chess pieces in chess and territories in RISK for noble reasons.
Its just powergames, its been going as long as we've been around.
With that said, I wish to see destruction of the aristocracy. Its a cycle that must keep going like dynasty changes over the centuries..
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: GazzBut]
#2466528 - 03/24/04 04:10 AM (20 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
GazzBut said:
Exactly. So do you actually think oil wasnt the main reason for attacking Iraq luv?(sorry for the slight veer off topic baby hitler!)
As I've said before I don't doubt oil was one of many factors, but I'll add it now that it'd be a minor factor.
Should we start carting off a bunch of free oil that will be different.
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GazzBut
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Quote:
Should we start carting off a bunch of free oil that will be different.
Hardly likely to happen like that though is it? But its worth rememebering that Iraqi oil is now being sold in dollars again, instead of Euros. Im also pretty sure that the US will be getting it at a cut rate, although i cant remember where i read that.
In terms of how the real world works, thats pretty close to carting off a bunch of free oil.
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#2468530 - 03/24/04 05:52 PM (20 years, 27 days ago) |
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#2469008 - 03/24/04 08:14 PM (20 years, 27 days ago) |
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Re: Blood for oil: Good or bad? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2482790 - 03/30/04 04:56 AM (20 years, 22 days ago) |
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depends on the exchange rate
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