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I Felt the Source 7
#24610594 - 09/07/17 01:44 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I finally felt it. It was real. It so real. So pure. Like a warm love that casted over me. It was pure, clean.
I felt it. It was real.
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And then my GF called right then, strangest of timing. What does it mean?
One can wonder.
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It's a great feeling.
It's why I feel everyone should experience a high dose of psilocybin at least once in their lifetime.
Care to elaborate?
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At the source is eternal love. It gets me every time. Feels like I went on journey to get there sometime.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: HamHead]
#24610817 - 09/07/17 05:27 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was knealing, in front of my speakers, listening to Shpongle or Bassnectar. Cant remember.
I closed my eyes then felt this enveloping energy. Very warm, gentle, comforting feeling like my whole being was being held by a loving, gentle forcefield of energy.
I could kinda see it under my closed eyes but it was more of a feeling, almost like a body feeling but different. Maybe like both the body and mind being carried away on a gentle energy. Very pure feeling. No thoughts just this calm feeling. Peaceful but energitic.
I imagine it being similar to the feeling of being beamed aboard the Enterprise in Star Trek. I bet its similar.
I wanna go back. I feel like this the UFO situation again: I see a UFO and then all of a sudden, im "addicted" and wanna see another one, hunt UFOs down for real. Used to be Bigfoot, UFOs is differently number one now since i saw one.
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isn't it "trust in the Force" not the "Source"?
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Ha, its the Force not the Source!
Good point. I guess i felt the Source of the Force if u will.
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Im so happy for you!!! I hope you have many returns to it. Its pure love
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It was incredible guys. Everyone should experience this in their lives.
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LogicaL Chaos said: And then my GF called right then, strangest of timing. What does it mean?
One can wonder.
This was after ingesting a Psychedelic?
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Yup. African Transkei cubenis.
My GF called seconds after i entered into the Source/God-energy. Ive realized now it might be a message (via syncronities) that i need to deal with problems with my GF and my personal issues before i can "enjoy" God's Source energy again.
As if to say "heres a sample of what it feels like, but first u must deal with this" then my GF calls.
This is all very exciting and life changing. Im in awe.
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I have some sobering news about this.
There is a satan just as there is a God/Entheogens.
Every living thing has God/Entheogens in them. They also have satan.
Satan hates God because God exposes it.
The goal of the Spiritual Discipline is to reach the "Place of Rest". The "Place of Rest" is the state of being in God's/Entheogen's Presence in a relaxed condition.
That State is satan's mortal enemy. Therefore, it attacks to prevent it from continuing.
I've thought it's like the demon inside ourselves is "cast out" by that condition - and it enters into someone else and then atacks to get back in.
Are you saying that you believe that Entheogens are God, the Creator?
"5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.
4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;" -- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)
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Dude.
Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?
I think entheogens like mushrooms put the mind a state that can tune into divine Source/God-Energy. Im not exactly sure yet if i believe psychedelics are a direct "piece" of God. Not sure yet on that one. But most are naturally made so maybe 
And about that Bible quote. It mentions at night is evil and its all about being awake for the light. What about lucid dreaming/dreaming in general? Is dreaming "evil"?
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endogenous said: I have some sobering news about this.
There is a satan just as there is a God/Entheogens.
Every living thing has God/Entheogens in them. They also have satan.
Satan hates God because God exposes it.
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what is sobering to me, is that you have absorbed too much archaic mythology, it is not responsible of you to spread that around.
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Oh - a "self-righteous" atheist!
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tf?
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I've only felt this one time years ago when I was in college on my air mattress. It was so loving. I've searched to feel this again but I've never gotten close. It was so unexpected and felt like pure bliss. Made me fall in love with shrooms.
Glad you felt this as well, LC. I love when you make a thread; they're so interesting.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Kinshino] 1
#24613279 - 09/08/17 08:50 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have smoked dmt on lsd and mushrooms, and it was one of the most gorgeous interesting things I have seen (I just smoked very very little)
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About Satan.
I believe life works the way Matt Kahn describes it.
There isn't Source (pure awareness light) and then you and then Satan.
You are Source manifested as a human. The pure awareness light is inside you, hidden by your ego etc.
Also inside you is darkness, as there has to be an opposite, a yin/yang. They call this darkness the Shadow. And you can do "shadow work" to accept the shadow and once you accept it and stop fighting it, it cannot hurt or influence you.
Religious people interpret the Shadow as Satan.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Kinshino] 1
#24613941 - 09/08/17 02:15 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Huh. Were u on shrooms at the time when that happened?
And thanks buddy, means a lot to me
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How many grams did you take?
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Ant89] 1
#24615114 - 09/09/17 12:04 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kind of makes me build up in anticipation for the journey for which I am about to embark I have still only began gathering my resources but I don't want to leave ill prepared. Interesting ways to describe it though fellas.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Dude.
Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?
What I'm saying is that satan is already there - inside the body. When God/Entheogens come into you it is possible that satan gets temporarily "exorcized" - "cast out". Satan hates God/Entheogens. It tries to convince you to not be close to God. Sometimes, it can't stand being so close and it leaves. At that moment, there is a feeling of "bliss". But satan seems to time it so that it only lasts for a few seconds and then there's an attack. Then you get uptight - which means satan is back in.
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I think entheogens like mushrooms put the mind a state that can tune into divine Source/God-Energy. Im not exactly sure yet if i believe psychedelics are a direct "piece" of God. Not sure yet on that one. But most are naturally made so maybe
I'm talking about the Being who Indra, Christ, Moses, Buddha, Mohamed, etc. called "God"
In order to understand that you have to look at the scriptures.
Like, for instance, the RgVeda says that Soma was the "Creator of the gods".
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And about that Bible quote. It mentions at night is evil and its all about being awake for the light. What about lucid dreaming/dreaming in general? Is dreaming "evil"?
He (St. Paul) doesn't mean that the physical "night" is evil.
There is the physical "day" and the physical sun.
There is the Spiritual Day and the Spiritual Sun.
The Spiritual Sun is, of course, God/Entheogens.
People who are Spiritually "asleep" are not Aware of who God or Christ is. They are "dead" to God.
"A pagan does not die. For they have never Lived in order that they may die. Those who have believed the Truth have found Life. And this one is in danger of dying - for they are Alive." -- Gospel of St. Phillip (Gnostic)
"8 You were darkness once, but now you are light in the Lord; be like children of Light, 9 for the effects of the Light are seen in complete goodness and right living and Truth. 10 Try to discover what the Lord wants of you, 11 having nothing to do with the futile works of darkness but exposing them by contrast. 12 The things which are done in the dark are things that people are ashamed even to speak of; 13 but anything exposed by the Light will be illuminated 14 and anything illuminated turns into Light. That is why it is said:
Wake up from your sleep,
rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you."
-- Ephesians, 5, 8
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5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it. 4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;" -- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)
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redgreenvines said: what is sobering to me, is that you have absorbed too much archaic mythology, it is not responsible of you to spread that around.
I don't know why anybody wanted all mythology to be Archaic. Modern psychology relies upon the Hero Mythos frequently. Karl Jung's Archetypes are the same stories as of old. Everybody's own mind contains the same archaic mythology as anybody else's mind, and if you reject letting such stories break through into your daily consciousness, you risk coming across as insane.
Actually it is the most responsible a person can be, to spread the New Testament. The 1Thessalonians,5,1-5 quote is spot on. Calling it, and belief associated with, "archaic" suggests being afraid of the Bible. And if it is just Satan you were calling Archaic, you have no reason to have posted. People who reject the calling to God and also openly reject the calling of Satan, are who prove themselves outwards in the world, worse even than the followers of Satan (who at least shut up and suffer their own fall keeping it to themselves most often), and were among those suffering as in the Bible quote. Those who followed Satan more covertly and in open have claimed to be more righteous than the followers of true Love, are not who push Satan upon the rest of us, but suffer themselves as liars within. Following Satan covertly and shying away from Christ consciousness, is less likely to be thieved from than overtly following him. Those who followed Satan overtly and in an overt way promoted themselves as if they could control what Satan was, tend to not even believe in Satan. But calling Satan archaic, suggests being afraid of him.
I think citing "archaic mythology" as if modern day belief can surpass and dismiss simultaneous, is evidence of being afraid of thieves in the night, perhaps because of being one, but perhaps because of being victim of those who imagine they could define why we are warned against the devil and demons. And that is why, anybody who believes in mythology, religious and indigenous, had no fear, nor reason to find fault with, anybody who did that. The worth of the future, like the worth of the present, is founded in the lived lives of the past. Jesus is just one such life, but a life whose DMT trip on the cross, is defining all our lives now.
Psychedelics can make us susceptible to thieves in the night, in the aftermath of the psychedelic high, but only if we fail to integrate the journey well. Integration is key. Archaic mythology is also modern and living and is the means of integrating all dreams and visionary experiences and psychedelics. Without integration occurring, the thieves in the night, who might surprise us as a war on drugs, but also as opposition to the war on drugs, and also just as innocent spectators who realise that what's wrong is not the drugs by the politics surrounding, they come and they plunder the aftermath of psychedelic experience.
Don't be afraid. If you want mythology to be archaic, your integration process will be thieved from in the night, and you won't need live any human life of what you have witnessed above.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Dude.
Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?
What I'm saying is that satan is already there - inside the body. When God/Entheogens come into you it is possible that satan gets temporarily "exorcized" - "cast out". Satan hates God/Entheogens. It tries to convince you to not be close to God. Sometimes, it can't stand being so close and it leaves. At that moment, there is a feeling of "bliss". But satan seems to time it so that it only lasts for a few seconds and then there's an attack. Then you get uptight - which means satan is back in.
Satan comes into the picture by a number of means. If we set our intent aligned with him, he will be there within the experience, even if we don't recognize him. I have seen that in someone. If we fail to integrate the experience of using psychedelics to get out of dealing with Satan, then he gets that, and the deal goes more his way.
Casting out Satan doesn't happen via entheogens, although entheogens are not excluded from the way he can be cast out. But casting him out is by proving to him, that you can integrate your approaching God, better without Satan inside you, than with Satan.
And as to how it is possible that Satan can enter the picture during use of entheogens, is because for some folks, Satan is their whole concept of God. Their intent thus, in using entheogens might be just respite from self belief in their God as the devil. A terrible fate for anybody, and a hard task to cast Satan out if anybody had him confused with God, by how they caused their own delusions of control.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Dude.
Thats some heavy shit.
Something happened again --
Early sunday morning, I started seeing the Light of God (Entheogens), really clearly and strongly although I had ingested the same amount of Tryptamine as usual.
I started getting afraid that something bad was going to happen. It was very much like a heavy spirit (satan) had left and I was suddenly feeling and seeing bliss.
A few unpleasant things happened that day -- someone tore apart bags of garbage that were at the curb for pick-up and left garbage strewn all over the sidewalk. I told some friends that I wondered if something bad was going to happen.
Then I heard about Las Vegas on sunday night.
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Whoa, thats trippy. Syncronities at work!
The garbage all over the ground sounds like a metaphor for dead bodies all over the ground.
Then your shroom experience. Im sure of it, u were getting some precognition feelings of something about to happen.
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I too have felt what you speak of.......Truly only once. Which I am forever grateful for!!! That Absolute Love is Completely Enveloping!!! Showed me the REAL, TRUE meaning of AWESOME!!!!!!! Haha! No joke either!
I agree with a lot of your philosophies as well. I also believe mushrooms are one of the vessels that allow us to "open" our minds.
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Its incredible isnt it?
I imagine the afterlife/ascension must feel similar. Im hooked. I wanna go there again. The feeling is literally Divine.
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Yes, it Truly is.......
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Threads from God89 said: I too have felt what you speak of.......Truly only once. Which I am forever grateful for!!! That Absolute Love is Completely Enveloping!!! Showed me the REAL, TRUE meaning of AWESOME!!!!!!! Haha! No joke either!
I agree with a lot of your philosophies as well. I also believe mushrooms are one of the vessels that allow us to "open" our minds.
As I mentioned before - Entheogens are the true Flesh of God. They are what Christ called "the Father".
Satan is "cast out" for brief periods because it can't stand being close to God.
Saint John said, "5 This is what we have heard from him, and the message that we are announcing to you: God is Light; there is no darkness in Them at all." -- 1John, 1, 5
They are not talking about outer light like the physical sun, etc. They are talking about the spiritual Light of Entheogens.
"There is no darkness in Them at all." because satan cannot stand to be close to God - Entheogens.
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Teonanacatl.......correct? The Flesh of The Gods. Also when you quote The book of John my New Century Version says "God is Light, and In HIM there is no darkness at all". The New Living Translation that I have clearly says "Him" as well. ??? Quote:
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Threads from God89 said: I too have felt what you speak of.......Truly only once. Which I am forever grateful for!!! That Absolute Love is Completely Enveloping!!! Showed me the REAL, TRUE meaning of AWESOME!!!!!!! Haha! No joke either!
I agree with a lot of your philosophies as well. I also believe mushrooms are one of the vessels that allow us to "open" our minds.
As I mentioned before - Entheogens are the true Flesh of God. They are what Christ called "the Father".
Satan is "cast out" for brief periods because it can't stand being close to God.
Saint John said, "5 This is what we have heard from him, and the message that we are announcing to you: God is Light; there is no darkness in Them at all." -- 1John, 1, 5
They are not talking about outer light like the physical sun, etc. They are talking about the spiritual Light of Entheogens.
"There is no darkness in Them at all." because satan cannot stand to be close to God - Entheogens.
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endogenous said: I have some sobering news about this.
There is a satan just as there is a God/Entheogens.
Every living thing has God/Entheogens in them. They also have satan.
Satan hates God because God exposes it.
The goal of the Spiritual Discipline is to reach the "Place of Rest". The "Place of Rest" is the state of being in God's/Entheogen's Presence in a relaxed condition.
That State is satan's mortal enemy. Therefore, it attacks to prevent it from continuing.
I've thought it's like the demon inside ourselves is "cast out" by that condition - and it enters into someone else and then atacks to get back in.
Are you saying that you believe that Entheogens are God, the Creator?
"5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.
4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;" -- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)
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Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?
What I'm saying is that satan is already there - inside the body. When God/Entheogens come into you it is possible that satan gets temporarily "exorcized" - "cast out". Satan hates God/Entheogens. It tries to convince you to not be close to God. Sometimes, it can't stand being so close and it leaves. At that moment, there is a feeling of "bliss". But satan seems to time it so that it only lasts for a few seconds and then there's an attack. Then you get uptight - which means satan is back in.
Satan comes into the picture by a number of means. If we set our intent aligned with him, he will be there within the experience, even if we don't recognize him. I have seen that in someone. If we fail to integrate the experience of using psychedelics to get out of dealing with Satan, then he gets that, and the deal goes more his way.
Casting out Satan doesn't happen via entheogens, although entheogens are not excluded from the way he can be cast out. But casting him out is by proving to him, that you can integrate your approaching God, better without Satan inside you, than with Satan.
And as to how it is possible that Satan can enter the picture during use of entheogens, is because for some folks, Satan is their whole concept of God. Their intent thus, in using entheogens might be just respite from self belief in their God as the devil. A terrible fate for anybody, and a hard task to cast Satan out if anybody had him confused with God, by how they caused their own delusions of control.
Well said...
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Threads from God89 said: Teonanacatl.......correct? The Flesh of The Gods. Also when you quote The book of John my New Century Version says "God is Light, and In HIM there is no darkness at all". The New Living Translation that I have clearly says "Him" as well. ???
Teonanacatl means "God's Flesh". God, the Creator, (the Father) could also be considered the Flesh of the gods, since, in some religions, those who believe in Them are called "gods".
I don't use the word "Him" for God, the Creator. The Hebrew word for God is "Elohim" which is plural.
God is made up of the Spirits of the ascended Saints - male and female - so I don't like to say "Him". Although in the Letter to the Hebrews they say "what you have come to is Mount Zion and the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem where the millions of angels have gathered for the festival, 23 with the whole Church in which everyone is a "first-born son" and a citizen of heaven.". Hebrews, 12, 22
So females are being considered "first-born sons". But I still prefer to say "Them". There is more than one Entheogen although They are One in Spirit.
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My Bible says that God consists of three main parts. #1. The Father (original creator of all life), #2. The Son; Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and #3. The Holy Spirit. I personally do not believe that God is "comprised" of former priests who WERE MERE MEN WITH FLAWS.
Your views are very interesting to me though.
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When asked where He had been Satan replied something like "I have been walking back and forth upon the Earth", Satan owns the Earth as he was given it as His realm with which to tempt mankind.
I believe the Devil's presence is upon the earth and not in entheogens. Entheogens like mushrooms are a neutral thing. Subject to the laws of Good and Evil alike. We are all given our "Free Will" with which to do as we please......whether it's good or bad.
With Respects.
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In modern Hebrew, ELOHIM is referred to as Singular I believe.
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Threads from God89 said: My Bible says that God consists of three main parts. #1. The Father (original creator of all life), #2. The Son; Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and #3. The Holy Spirit. I personally do not believe that God is "comprised" of former priests who WERE MERE MEN WITH FLAWS.
Your views are very interesting to me though.
Christ was a "mere human with flaws".
5- 1 Every high priest has been taken out of humankind and is appointed to act for people in their relations with God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sin; and so 2 he can sympathize with those who are ignorant or uncertain because he too lives in the limitations of weakness. 3 That is why he has to make sin offerings for himself as well as for the people. 4 No one takes this honour on himself, but each one is called by God. 5 Nor did Christ give himself the glory of becoming high priest, but he had it from the one who said to him: You are my son, today I have become your father, 6 and in another text: You are a priest of the order of Mechizedek, and for ever. -- Hebrews, 5, 1
But what else could be the purpose of the True Church, other than to make it possible for people to grow from imperfection into perfection? From human into Entheogen (God).
St. Paul, speaking of God/Entheogens, said: Now this Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 and we, with our unveiled faces reflecting like mirrors the brightness of the Lord, all grow brighter and brighter as we are turned into the image that we reflect; this is the work of the Lord who is Spirit. -- 2Corinthians, 3, 17
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"Elohim ืึฑืึนืึดืื is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "deity" in Biblical Hebrew. In Modern Hebrew, it is often referred to in the singular despite the -im ending that denotes plural masculine nouns in Hebrew. In Hebrew, the ending -im normally indicates a masculine plural." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
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Personally I don't think religion is fully the issue. Humans are prone to corruption and tend to ruin good things.
Pretty much all religions have some good lessons to teach but people just take everything way to literally and then twist it to their own purposes
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Exactly. The Truth is all too often lost in "Translation-Interpretation". A good example of why I have shied away from the "religious" aspects of my Faith. I can't stand the ones who bend the Words to fit their untruths and all they do is drive people away!! That's not what God is about!
Being a True Christian is about having Jesus in your heart and doing as good as you can and just believing who Jesus was and allowing and accepting him into one's heart. Helping others out when you can, loving all and Giving Praise and the Glory to the God above all else, JEHOVAH!!! I don't even attend a church but that's ok because I don't necessarily NEED TO as I know Satan hides very well in some of the churches.
I hope I am not confused for a "Theist or Theologist". I'm just a guy that's far from perfect, but I Love God and have a lot to thank Him for! Don't really know why I said all that, but yeah! 
Thanks!
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Iโm more of the mind that entheogens are more along the lines of a sacrament or food/medicine placed as a tool. To call them God is to idolize a creation while somewhat cheapening what it is that this God potentially โisโ. To say God is a mushroom etc, or any chemical structure or even the experience puts an incredible limitation on what it is to be infinite or omni or alpha/omega and all that good stuff.
For the sake of argument, food and water are the real miracle workers as they keep you healthy and alive. Entheogens are more of a fertilizer. I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
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Amanita86 said: Iโm more of the mind that entheogens are more along the lines of a sacrament or food/medicine placed as a tool. To call them God is to idolize a creation while somewhat cheapening what it is that this God potentially โisโ. To say God is a mushroom etc, or any chemical structure or even the experience puts an incredible limitation on what it is to be infinite or omni or alpha/omega and all that good stuff.
For the sake of argument, food and water are the real miracle workers as they keep you healthy and alive. Entheogens are more of a fertilizer. I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
THANK YOU!
The first paragraph of this are my thoughts pretty much exactly....Yes it seems to me if you go along with that thinking God would in fact be VERY limited and we all know He is Infinite. Second paragraph I agree with as well, thanks! Good to hear your POV.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: Iโm more of the mind that entheogens are more along the lines of a sacrament or food/medicine placed as a tool. To call them God is to idolize a creation while somewhat cheapening what it is that this God potentially โisโ. To say God is a mushroom etc, or any chemical structure or even the experience puts an incredible limitation on what it is to be infinite or omni or alpha/omega and all that good stuff.
For the sake of argument, food and water are the real miracle workers as they keep you healthy and alive. Entheogens are more of a fertilizer. I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
I agree.
I would say shrooms are a gift from God. Like a present. A literal Easter Egg for us to find (in the forest/grass). I wouldnt exactly say its God itself. I mean, we technically are all made from God, so therefore we are all part of God. I would just say that shrooms are something special, made with special care from God. Like a well-crafted present for humans to enjoy and reconnect with God and the Divine Source-Energy.
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Amanita86 said: Iโm more of the mind that entheogens are more along the lines of a sacrament or food/medicine placed as a tool. To call them God is to idolize a creation while somewhat cheapening what it is that this God potentially โisโ. To say God is a mushroom etc, or any chemical structure or even the experience puts an incredible limitation on what it is to be infinite or omni or alpha/omega and all that good stuff.
For the sake of argument, food and water are the real miracle workers as they keep you healthy and alive. Entheogens are more of a fertilizer. I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
I agree.
I would say shrooms are a gift from God. Like a present. A literal Easter Egg for us to find (in the forest/grass). I wouldnt exactly say its God itself. I mean, we technically are all made from God, so therefore we are all part of God. I would just say that shrooms are something special, made with special care from God. Like a well-crafted present for humans to enjoy and reconnect with God and the Divine Source-Energy.
THANK GOD!!! There are people that understand !! It's cool just seeing others type about that!!!!!!! Just glad im not alone in feeling that way as well!
Faith in Mankind again! haha!
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Well - it's not at all surprising to me when people fail to see who the Creator of Christ, Buddha, Moses, Indra, etc., was.
The Hebrews wandered in the desert for 40 years and practically none of them reached the "place of rest". God called them a "set of rebels". And the "place of rest" is what this thread was originally about -- the place that is free of "satan" -- what was being called "the Source".
To me it's not hard to see.
The RgVeda calls Soma "the Creator of the gods". Soma was the Creator of Indra and all the other gods. Soma is still known, today, to have been a Plant.
The "Christians" have a "communion" in which they eat a substance that is supposed to turn into God/Christ's body and they're supposed to then become one with "God" and to see the "light" and receive the "holy spirit".
The Hindus have a similar Communion -- but their "bread" is made of Marijuana.
They also consider it a sin to ingest Marijuana without that belief.
Marijuana is considered to bring people into oneness with Shiva and to cleanse of sins. Marijuana is believed to be a part of the Body of Amrita/Soma -- which the Veda identifies as the Creator (Father).
The "Christians" have lost the Name (identity) of the God that Christ had revealed. That is why new religions are born -- the old religion loses the identity of God - someone ingests Entheogens and begins to realize that Entheogens are the true God that the old religion had originally worshiped.
You all can make up your own definition for "God" -- I'm talking about the God of Christ, Buddha, Indra, Moses, etc.
And that is the true God --
Entheogens.
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Being a True Christian is about having Jesus in your heart
How can you "have Jesus in your heart" if you don't know who Jesus called God?
The main Mission of Christ was to make the Name of God known. That Name was obviously NOT what the world thought that God was. And the "god" that most of the people in this thread think is God -- is the same god of the world that most people have always believed to be "God".
"O just Creator, the world has not known You, but I have known You, and these have known that You have sent me. So have I declared, so will I declare Your Name to them." --St. John, 17,25
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Thank you Logical.
Well, I guess according to the Hindus then I'm about to commit another sin cuz im gonna smoke some "Marijuana" before I go to work then!!! Haha, You guys have a good one today, im off to cook some kick-ass food, right after I smoke this "marijuana"
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Well, I guess according to the Hindus then I'm about to commit another sin cuz im gonna smoke some "Marijuana" before I go to work then!!! Haha, You guys have a good one today, im off to cook some kick-ass food, right after I smoke this "marijuana" 
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LogicaL Chaos said: And then my GF called right then, strangest of timing. What does it mean?
One can wonder.
My mom once came barging through my bedroom door at the peak of a DMT trip. She wasn't even home..she walks in the house door then comes straight into mine which she never does. It was like the DMTbrought us together and made us sort some shit out that had to be sorted out.
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I can believe you. Not to long ago I met source while eating cubensis it let me ask it questions and actualy answered then. It also gimme a glipse into the next level of tripping and told me next time to eat more. It said while at the next level it'll let me glimpse I to the level after Nd so on and so on lol blew my mind.
After that I met the same thing while smoking changa for a few hours it was so buetiful and as well as insights gave me great feeling. All my mushroom experiences have changed since I've had dmt. I cant put my finger on it but I believe the dmt has lingered In my mind and tainted my experiences.
Glad u met source. We all end up a part of it one day. It told me.
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What do you mean by the DMT "tainting" the mushroom experiences? Did you smoke it?
If you come across DMT again maybe try some orally and see what you think. IMO it's a lot more medicinal and possibly "how it was meant to be used" to an extent.
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I'm a big believer in oral DMT . It's great.
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I have been wanting to get some Caapi to try on it's own and then combine with some chacruna or something
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BasilBush said: Glad u met source. We all end up a part of it one day. It told me.
"Our" consciousness is made up of DMT, 5MeO-DMT, and other Entheogens.
But, to actually be a part of Them, a person has to understand and accept that They (Entheogens) are the true God.
"They are the Eternal among things that pass away. Pure Consciousness of consciousnes beings. The ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their souls attain the Peace eternal." -- Katha Upanishad
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
The body produces DMT, 5MeO-DMT and other Entheogens. When a person phsyically dies they then meet these Beings - who are God.
That is why people who've had near death experiences have experiences that are alot like when people ingest Entheogens.
A friend of mine OD'd on heroin. He told me it was exactly like DMT.
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Near death experiences are strange like that. Very DMT like. Makes u wonder if ego death is a lot like real death.
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BasilBush said: I can believe you. Not to long ago I met source while eating cubensis it let me ask it questions and actualy answered then. It also gimme a glipse into the next level of tripping and told me next time to eat more. It said while at the next level it'll let me glimpse I to the level after Nd so on and so on lol blew my mind.
After that I met the same thing while smoking changa for a few hours it was so buetiful and as well as insights gave me great feeling. All my mushroom experiences have changed since I've had dmt. I cant put my finger on it but I believe the dmt has lingered In my mind and tainted my experiences.
Glad u met source. We all end up a part of it one day. It told me.
I believe this is because ayahuasca or DMT can increase the bioavailability of other psychedelics or can increase your body's ability to produce serotonin. Tryptophan is a precursor to serotonin and tryptophan is only 2 steps away from DMT so makes sense.
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Amanita86 said: I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
The body produces DMT, 5MeO-DMT and other Entheogens. When a person phsyically dies they then meet these Beings - who are God.
That is why people who've had near death experiences have experiences that are alot like when people ingest Entheogens.
A friend of mine OD'd on heroin. He told me it was exactly like DMT.
DMT is not endogenous the effect is an effect that the brain can make within it's own activity potential, DMT is just a trigger, it is not the only trigger and it is not the effect.
we have discussed this several times - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24484683#24484683 please do not spread false information
rats have it naturally, but it is endogenously indetectible in humans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Endogenous_DMT
Strassman's theory is not good.
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I have a bunch of bible passages that could be interpreted as referring to entheogens and they are referreded to as manna. If thatโs what they are talking about it is said in context as food or a way too God, not as being God. Iโll get them up here when I feel like gathering them together but a few google searches will pull them up, Iโm sure youโll have no trouble should you decide to put in the footwork.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: I have a bunch of bible passages that could be interpreted as referring to entheogens and they are referreded to as manna. If thatโs what they are talking about it is said in context as food or a way too God, not as being God. Iโll get them up here when I feel like gathering them together but a few google searches will pull them up, Iโm sure youโll have no trouble should you decide to put in the footwork.
I will not be a flamer on here but also part of my life involves a quest for truth and facts among the interpretation of the bible, although I will say that I should probably read it MUCH more, that's beside my point.
"It is said in context as FOOD or A WAY TO GOD". This "Manna from heaven" I believe, are a MEANS OF OBTAINING GOD! They are Not Actually God.
God told Moses "I Am That I Am," this is most commonly, and by myself, interpreted to mean He Lives Through Man as He Created Us in His Image.
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redgreenvines said: rats have it naturally, but it is endogenously indetectible in humans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Endogenous_DMT
Strassman's theory is not good.
According to this study, they found nanogram amounts of DMT - not picograms (as stated by Nichols) using liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry with electrospray ionization (LC-ESI-MS/MS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#cite_note-pmid16095048-66
In the cerebral spinal fluid they found up to 100 MICROgrams per liter. (There's up to ~270 ml csf in an adult) So possibly 25 ugms of DMT in the csf of an adult.
I don't know how to gauge the strength of that amount of DMT in cs fluid. I would think DMT would be much stronger there being so close to nerves and brain.
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Amanita86 said: I have a bunch of bible passages that could be interpreted as referring to entheogens and they are referreded to as manna. If thatโs what they are talking about it is said in context as food or a way too God, not as being God. Iโll get them up here when I feel like gathering them together but a few google searches will pull them up, Iโm sure youโll have no trouble should you decide to put in the footwork.
I will not be a flamer on here but also part of my life involves a quest for truth and facts among the interpretation of the bible, although I will say that I should probably read it MUCH more, that's beside my point.
"It is said in context as FOOD or A WAY TO GOD". This "Manna from heaven" I believe, are a MEANS OF OBTAINING GOD! They are Not Actually God.
God told Moses "I Am That I Am," this is most commonly, and by myself, interpreted to mean He Lives Through Man as He Created Us in His Image.
If the knowlege that the God of Moses was Entheogens had survived the editors of the Old Testament, there would have been no need for the appearance of Christ.
8"How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie. 9"The wise men are put to shame, They are dismayed and caught; Behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, And what kind of wisdom do they have?โฆ -- Jeremiah, 8, 8
It is clear that by the time of Christ, the "Jews" no longer knew who God was. That is why Christ said that the world didn't know God and that His Mission was to reveal the Name of God.
It is clear that the Hebrews had alot of Entheogens. E.g.:
The "Burning Bush" which said: "I am that I am". Here it is obvious -- this is a Plant that was God!!! My understanding is that this Plant was a red Amanita growing under a small pine tree. It would seem like the bush was on fire but not being consumed. Wasson believed that this red Amanita was the original Creator God of the Hindus called Soma.
The "Manna": In Exodus, 16,14 Manna is described as being "a fine, flake-like thing" like hoarfrost on the ground.
(Hoarfrost)
(Psilocybin Mycilium
The Book of Numbers (11, 7) says that Manna arrives with the dew during the night, just like mushrooms. They had to be collected before the heat of the sun caused Them to melt and breed worms --which happens to mushrooms. They were described as white, which is the color of mycelium, and also as the color of coriander seed. Coriander seed is brownish yellow, which is the color of the Psilocybin Mushrooms Themselves.
coriander seeds
Psilocybin Mushrooms
And guess what all of the wood in the "Trysting Tent", where the people would go to meet with God, was made of? -- ACACIA.
And as many Shroomery readers know -- many species of Acacia bark contain DMT.
And for Marijuana:
This is an excerpt from a usenet thread:
From: Dennis Shields (konagold@ilhawaii.net) Subject: CANNABIS IS A SACRAMENT OF MOSES [was] Why Christians Hate POT!!! Newsgroups: alt.2600, alt.censorship, alt.christnet, alt.culture.usenet, alt.drugs, alt.drugs.culture, alt.drugs.pot, alt.drugs.psychedelics Date: 1996/02/25
[....] Cannabis use in the Old Testament was again looked at in 1936, by Sula Benet. Unlike Creighton, who felt that cannabis was never mentioned directly, Benet stated that the original Hebrew versions of the old testament and the Aramaic translations contained references to cannabis by name; "In the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament there are references to hemp, both as incense, which was an integral part of religious celebration, and as an intoxicant." . The name cannabis is generally thought to be of Scythian origin, but Benet argues that it has a much earlier origin in Semitic languages like Hebrew, occurring several times in the Old Testament. . Benet also informs us of hempโs role as a sacred oil, stating that in Exodus 30:23 God commands Moses to make a holy anointing oil of myrrh, sweet cinnamon, kaneh bosm, and kassia. He continues that the word kaneh bosm is also rendered in traditional Hebrew as kannabos or kannabus and that the root "kan" in this construction means "reed" or "hemp", while "bosm" means "aromatic". This word appeared in Exodus 30:23, Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, Eziekiel 27:19, Song of Songs 4:14. An ancient Hebrew religious requirement was that the dead be buried in hemp (referred to as Kaneh) shirts (Klien 1908). For some unknown reason this word disappeared from the text. and has been mistranslated as calamus..'The error occurred in the oldest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, Septuagint in the third century B.C., where the terms *kaneh, kaneh bosm were incorrectly translated as 'calamus'. And in the many translations that followed, including Martin Luther's, the same error was repeated.'. **( from 'Cannabis and Culture', Vera Rubin Editor, and 'The Book of Grass', Edited by Andrews and Vinkenoog ). [end quote]
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Very interesting! I was just listening to one of Joe Rogan's podcasts with Dennis McKenna and they talk about how Moses' encounter with God and the burning bush might have been a DMT experience with the source of the DMT being the acacia tree. They questioned what medium would have been used to metabolize the DMT since it wouldn't be orally active without an MAOI correct?
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Sorry for the late reply. I cant quite put my finger on what's changed. I used to need at least an 8th to get funky and do 5-7g doses regularly. Now I can get proper trippy on 2g I feel the shrrom visuals ha e took on a dmt edge to them but it ain't just shrooms.sometime when I smoke heroin ill close my eyes and get flowing morphong sacred geometry. That shit is fucked up. But very welcome and relaxing.
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I was watching these ayahuasca ceremonies. When these people were taking ayahuasca, during the ezperience they werenโt interacting with ayahuasca in their minds, they were interacting with spirits, revelations and by the sixth night going to God. They consistently praise ayahuasca as a WAY to reach that state. The experience isnโt in the cup, the visions arent in their cup. The drinking of the tea is simply a WAY to reach those visions.
Think of it, if you wanโt to get to the other side of the world and meet someone from the Shroomery a way to get there is potentially car if itโs a north/ south thing, Greyhound, plane, boat....all different WAYS to get to the person, but those ways arenโt the person youโre meeting. You know what Iโm saying?
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Amanita86 said: I was watching these ayahuasca ceremonies. When these people were taking ayahuasca, during the ezperience they werenโt interacting with ayahuasca in their minds, they were interacting with spirits, revelations and by the sixth night going to God. They consistently praise ayahuasca as a WAY to reach that state. The experience isnโt in the cup, the visions arent in their cup. The drinking of the tea is simply a WAY to reach those visions.
Think of it, if you wanโt to get to the other side of the world and meet someone from the Shroomery a way to get there is potentially car if itโs a north/ south thing, Greyhound, plane, boat....all different WAYS to get to the person, but those ways arenโt the person youโre meeting. You know what Iโm saying?
 
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travishibachi said: Very interesting! I was just listening to one of Joe Rogan's podcasts with Dennis McKenna and they talk about how Moses' encounter with God and the burning bush might have been a DMT experience with the source of the DMT being the acacia tree. They questioned what medium would have been used to metabolize the DMT since it wouldn't be orally active without an MAOI correct?
I would think that DMT is active orally without a maoi if you ingest a large enough amount. They also would be active throuigh snorting.
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Amanita86 said: I was watching these ayahuasca ceremonies. When these people were taking ayahuasca, during the ezperience they werenโt interacting with ayahuasca in their minds, they were interacting with spirits, revelations and by the sixth night going to God. They consistently praise ayahuasca as a WAY to reach that state. The experience isnโt in the cup, the visions arent in their cup. The drinking of the tea is simply a WAY to reach those visions.
Think of it, if you wanโt to get to the other side of the world and meet someone from the Shroomery a way to get there is potentially car if itโs a north/ south thing, Greyhound, plane, boat....all different WAYS to get to the person, but those ways arenโt the person youโre meeting. You know what Iโm saying?
The Daime Ayahuasca Church in Oregon who won their federal district court case and are legally allowed to have Ayahuasca in the U.S., believe that Ayahuasca is the "blood of Christ" and they pray to Ayahuasca. The Vegetal Church, whose case went to the U.S. Supreme Court, and is now allowed to have Ayahuasca, believe that Ayahuasca is a Deity.
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Very interesting
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Thats interesting. I might have to join this Church in the great state of Oregon.
I know about "Peyote Road" where u can legally take Peyote in a religious context.
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Yeah and the Christian church believes red wine is. Did Jesus bleed out red wine or ayahuasca when he was being beaten and crucified? Maybe, but I doubt it. I think some symbolism is taking place there.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
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I thought the wine was also symbolism for how Jesus turned "water into wine".
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The wine or juice represents His body and the bread/cracker/wafer represent His body.
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Yes, both represent the body of Christ, the idea is that Christ is there in spirit.
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Whoops I fucked that up, the juice/wine represents blood.
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Threads from God89 said: Yes, both represent the body of Christ, the idea is that Christ is there in spirit.
The bread represents his body that was sacrificed, and the wine for his blood that symbolizes the new covenant.
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Amanita86 said: Yeah and the Christian church believes red wine is. Did Jesus bleed out red wine or ayahuasca when he was being beaten and crucified? Maybe, but I doubt it. I think some symbolism is taking place there.
Right. The crucifixion wasn't physical. That is why St. Paul said "As for me, the only thing I can boast about is the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom the world is crucified to me, and I to the world." Galatians, 6,14
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Wake up from your sleep,
rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you. --Ephesians, 5, 8
So, how can someone who is physically alive be "raised from the dead"?
And you were dead, through the trespasses and the sins 2 in which you used to live when you were following the way of this world -- Ephesians, 2, 1
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You have been taught that when we were baptised in Christ Jesus we were baptised into his death; when we were baptised we went into the tomb with him and joined him in death, so that as Christ was raised by the glory of Yahweh, we too might live and move in the new sphere of life. โฆin that way, you too must consider yourselves to be dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. โRomans 6, 3
So, Christ's death was NOT physical. That is why He said "you must be born again". It wasn't a physical birth or a physical death.
And the beginning of that birth - and death - is the belief in the Name of God: Entheogens.
Entheogens are a REAL God. They have a PHYSICAL body like every other real thing.
That is why when Moses asked the "Burning Bush" "what shall I tell the people that your Name is?" They replied, "Tell them that I AM"
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LogicaL Chaos said: I thought the wine was also symbolism for how Jesus turned "water into wine".
Entheogens - are the Water when given without the revelation that They are God. The "Wine" or "Blood" is the Water (Entheogens) combined with the revelation of Their Name.
John the Baptist didn't have that knowledge - and he baptized with only "Water" (Entheogens).
Christ "walked on the Water" -- He was raised up by Them.
The "Water" was the realm of those who were dead to God - they didn't know or believe in God's Name.. Christ said "I will make you fishers of humans."
Those who came to know and believe in God's Name were "raised from the dead" and walked on the Water.
The real Light, which enlightens every person, was coming then into the world . They entered the world - the world which existed through Them, yet the world did not recognize Them; They came to what was Their own, yet Their own folk did not welcome Them. On those who have accepted Them, however, They have conferred the right of being children of God, that is, on those who believe in Their Name, who owe this birth of theirs to God, not to human blood, nor to any impulse of the flesh or of humans. โ St. John, 1, 9
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Come to think of it, the Bible had a ton of references to water. Parting of the Red Sea, teaching a man to fish (ocean), flooding and Noahs Ark and the water to wine conversion.
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Yes very interesting indeed, the Bible is definitely open to interpretation of all kinds!
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Well - you can think that what I've said is an "interpretation".
But this is what I say to that:
I've SEEN the Entheogenic Being. I knew at the same time as I was seeing Them that They were the Entheogen I had ingested. I saw Their Light and Their Life - They had the feeling of being the Essence of Life.
Now I ask you - what EMPTY wheat wafer can compare to that?
Entheogens are the God of Moses - Christ - Buddha - Indra - Mohamed -
"From the beginning till now under Names without end, the First - the Beginning is seen. How do I know the beginning of all? By these." Hymn 21, Tao Te Ching
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endogenous said: I have some sobering news about this.
There is a satan just as there is a God/Entheogens.
Every living thing has God/Entheogens in them. They also have satan.
Satan hates God because God exposes it.
The goal of the Spiritual Discipline is to reach the "Place of Rest". The "Place of Rest" is the state of being in God's/Entheogen's Presence in a relaxed condition.
That State is satan's mortal enemy. Therefore, it attacks to prevent it from continuing.
I've thought it's like the demon inside ourselves is "cast out" by that condition - and it enters into someone else and then atacks to get back in.
Are you saying that you believe that Entheogens are God, the Creator?
"5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.
4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;" -- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)
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All is one. All is love. Reality was created for the void to be experience itself.satan does not exist.satan only exists in our minds and it stands for S.eeing A.nything T.hing A.s N.egative S.A.T.A.N seeing things as negative keeps us from experiencing oneness because it instills the idea we are separate from all that is.jesus understood this as his main preaching was love because once you love, your home. Your playing the only game in town.
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endogenous said: I have some sobering news about this.
There is a satan just as there is a God/Entheogens.
Every living thing has God/Entheogens in them. They also have satan.
Satan hates God because God exposes it.
The goal of the Spiritual Discipline is to reach the "Place of Rest". The "Place of Rest" is the state of being in God's/Entheogen's Presence in a relaxed condition.
That State is satan's mortal enemy. Therefore, it attacks to prevent it from continuing.
I've thought it's like the demon inside ourselves is "cast out" by that condition - and it enters into someone else and then atacks to get back in.
Are you saying that you believe that Entheogens are God, the Creator?
"5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.
4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;" -- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)
There's always gotta be one party pooper!
On the one hand, what a beautiful world it would be if there were no evil. On the other hand - satan's overwhelming desire to extinguish the Light goes to show the overwhelming Power of God/Entheogens.
So, with each attack from satan - at the height of Bliss - I am strongly reminded of the Power of God/Entheogens.
It it encourages me to think that I'm going in the right direction.
-------------------- The Day of the Lord has come like a thief in the night. -- It is there but no one knows it.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Kenetic]
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endogenous said: I have some sobering news about this.
There is a satan just as there is a God/Entheogens.
Every living thing has God/Entheogens in them. They also have satan.
Satan hates God because God exposes it.
The goal of the Spiritual Discipline is to reach the "Place of Rest". The "Place of Rest" is the state of being in God's/Entheogen's Presence in a relaxed condition.
That State is satan's mortal enemy. Therefore, it attacks to prevent it from continuing.
I've thought it's like the demon inside ourselves is "cast out" by that condition - and it enters into someone else and then atacks to get back in.
Are you saying that you believe that Entheogens are God, the Creator?
"5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.
4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;" -- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)
Damn what a buzzkill
"Serve the Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling" -- Psalm 2, 11
:Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the Lord." -- Psalm 34, 11
-------------------- The Day of the Lord has come like a thief in the night. -- It is there but no one knows it.
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