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musiclover420
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Bill_Oreilly said: I'm a big believer in oral DMT . It's great.
I have been wanting to get some Caapi to try on it's own and then combine with some chacruna or something
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: BasilBush]
#24698766 - 10/10/17 05:01 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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BasilBush said: Glad u met source. We all end up a part of it one day. It told me.
"Our" consciousness is made up of DMT, 5MeO-DMT, and other Entheogens.
But, to actually be a part of Them, a person has to understand and accept that They (Entheogens) are the true God.
"They are the Eternal among things that pass away. Pure Consciousness of consciousnes beings. The ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their souls attain the Peace eternal." -- Katha Upanishad
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
#24706351 - 10/13/17 05:12 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
The body produces DMT, 5MeO-DMT and other Entheogens. When a person phsyically dies they then meet these Beings - who are God.
That is why people who've had near death experiences have experiences that are alot like when people ingest Entheogens.
A friend of mine OD'd on heroin. He told me it was exactly like DMT.
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Near death experiences are strange like that. Very DMT like. Makes u wonder if ego death is a lot like real death.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: BasilBush]
#24706695 - 10/13/17 09:33 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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BasilBush said: I can believe you. Not to long ago I met source while eating cubensis it let me ask it questions and actualy answered then. It also gimme a glipse into the next level of tripping and told me next time to eat more. It said while at the next level it'll let me glimpse I to the level after Nd so on and so on lol blew my mind.
After that I met the same thing while smoking changa for a few hours it was so buetiful and as well as insights gave me great feeling. All my mushroom experiences have changed since I've had dmt. I cant put my finger on it but I believe the dmt has lingered In my mind and tainted my experiences.
Glad u met source. We all end up a part of it one day. It told me.
I believe this is because ayahuasca or DMT can increase the bioavailability of other psychedelics or can increase your body's ability to produce serotonin. Tryptophan is a precursor to serotonin and tryptophan is only 2 steps away from DMT so makes sense.
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endogenous said:
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Amanita86 said: I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
The body produces DMT, 5MeO-DMT and other Entheogens. When a person phsyically dies they then meet these Beings - who are God.
That is why people who've had near death experiences have experiences that are alot like when people ingest Entheogens.
A friend of mine OD'd on heroin. He told me it was exactly like DMT.
DMT is not endogenous the effect is an effect that the brain can make within it's own activity potential, DMT is just a trigger, it is not the only trigger and it is not the effect.
we have discussed this several times - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24484683#24484683 please do not spread false information
rats have it naturally, but it is endogenously indetectible in humans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Endogenous_DMT
Strassman's theory is not good.
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I have a bunch of bible passages that could be interpreted as referring to entheogens and they are referreded to as manna. If that’s what they are talking about it is said in context as food or a way too God, not as being God. I’ll get them up here when I feel like gathering them together but a few google searches will pull them up, I’m sure you’ll have no trouble should you decide to put in the footwork.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
#24708054 - 10/13/17 08:15 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I have a bunch of bible passages that could be interpreted as referring to entheogens and they are referreded to as manna. If that’s what they are talking about it is said in context as food or a way too God, not as being God. I’ll get them up here when I feel like gathering them together but a few google searches will pull them up, I’m sure you’ll have no trouble should you decide to put in the footwork.
I will not be a flamer on here but also part of my life involves a quest for truth and facts among the interpretation of the bible, although I will say that I should probably read it MUCH more, that's beside my point.
"It is said in context as FOOD or A WAY TO GOD". This "Manna from heaven" I believe, are a MEANS OF OBTAINING GOD! They are Not Actually God.
God told Moses "I Am That I Am," this is most commonly, and by myself, interpreted to mean He Lives Through Man as He Created Us in His Image.
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redgreenvines said: rats have it naturally, but it is endogenously indetectible in humans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Endogenous_DMT
Strassman's theory is not good.
According to this study, they found nanogram amounts of DMT - not picograms (as stated by Nichols) using liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry with electrospray ionization (LC-ESI-MS/MS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#cite_note-pmid16095048-66
In the cerebral spinal fluid they found up to 100 MICROgrams per liter. (There's up to ~270 ml csf in an adult) So possibly 25 ugms of DMT in the csf of an adult.
I don't know how to gauge the strength of that amount of DMT in cs fluid. I would think DMT would be much stronger there being so close to nerves and brain.
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Amanita86 said: I have a bunch of bible passages that could be interpreted as referring to entheogens and they are referreded to as manna. If that’s what they are talking about it is said in context as food or a way too God, not as being God. I’ll get them up here when I feel like gathering them together but a few google searches will pull them up, I’m sure you’ll have no trouble should you decide to put in the footwork.
I will not be a flamer on here but also part of my life involves a quest for truth and facts among the interpretation of the bible, although I will say that I should probably read it MUCH more, that's beside my point.
"It is said in context as FOOD or A WAY TO GOD". This "Manna from heaven" I believe, are a MEANS OF OBTAINING GOD! They are Not Actually God.
God told Moses "I Am That I Am," this is most commonly, and by myself, interpreted to mean He Lives Through Man as He Created Us in His Image.
If the knowlege that the God of Moses was Entheogens had survived the editors of the Old Testament, there would have been no need for the appearance of Christ.
8"How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie. 9"The wise men are put to shame, They are dismayed and caught; Behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, And what kind of wisdom do they have?… -- Jeremiah, 8, 8
It is clear that by the time of Christ, the "Jews" no longer knew who God was. That is why Christ said that the world didn't know God and that His Mission was to reveal the Name of God.
It is clear that the Hebrews had alot of Entheogens. E.g.:
The "Burning Bush" which said: "I am that I am". Here it is obvious -- this is a Plant that was God!!! My understanding is that this Plant was a red Amanita growing under a small pine tree. It would seem like the bush was on fire but not being consumed. Wasson believed that this red Amanita was the original Creator God of the Hindus called Soma.
The "Manna": In Exodus, 16,14 Manna is described as being "a fine, flake-like thing" like hoarfrost on the ground.
(Hoarfrost)
(Psilocybin Mycilium
The Book of Numbers (11, 7) says that Manna arrives with the dew during the night, just like mushrooms. They had to be collected before the heat of the sun caused Them to melt and breed worms --which happens to mushrooms. They were described as white, which is the color of mycelium, and also as the color of coriander seed. Coriander seed is brownish yellow, which is the color of the Psilocybin Mushrooms Themselves.
coriander seeds
Psilocybin Mushrooms
And guess what all of the wood in the "Trysting Tent", where the people would go to meet with God, was made of? -- ACACIA.
And as many Shroomery readers know -- many species of Acacia bark contain DMT.
And for Marijuana:
This is an excerpt from a usenet thread:
From: Dennis Shields (konagold@ilhawaii.net) Subject: CANNABIS IS A SACRAMENT OF MOSES [was] Why Christians Hate POT!!! Newsgroups: alt.2600, alt.censorship, alt.christnet, alt.culture.usenet, alt.drugs, alt.drugs.culture, alt.drugs.pot, alt.drugs.psychedelics Date: 1996/02/25
[....] Cannabis use in the Old Testament was again looked at in 1936, by Sula Benet. Unlike Creighton, who felt that cannabis was never mentioned directly, Benet stated that the original Hebrew versions of the old testament and the Aramaic translations contained references to cannabis by name; "In the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament there are references to hemp, both as incense, which was an integral part of religious celebration, and as an intoxicant." . The name cannabis is generally thought to be of Scythian origin, but Benet argues that it has a much earlier origin in Semitic languages like Hebrew, occurring several times in the Old Testament. . Benet also informs us of hemp’s role as a sacred oil, stating that in Exodus 30:23 God commands Moses to make a holy anointing oil of myrrh, sweet cinnamon, kaneh bosm, and kassia. He continues that the word kaneh bosm is also rendered in traditional Hebrew as kannabos or kannabus and that the root "kan" in this construction means "reed" or "hemp", while "bosm" means "aromatic". This word appeared in Exodus 30:23, Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, Eziekiel 27:19, Song of Songs 4:14. An ancient Hebrew religious requirement was that the dead be buried in hemp (referred to as Kaneh) shirts (Klien 1908). For some unknown reason this word disappeared from the text. and has been mistranslated as calamus..'The error occurred in the oldest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, Septuagint in the third century B.C., where the terms *kaneh, kaneh bosm were incorrectly translated as 'calamus'. And in the many translations that followed, including Martin Luther's, the same error was repeated.'. **( from 'Cannabis and Culture', Vera Rubin Editor, and 'The Book of Grass', Edited by Andrews and Vinkenoog ). [end quote]
Be Blessed.
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Edited by endogenous (10/14/17 04:37 AM)
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Very interesting! I was just listening to one of Joe Rogan's podcasts with Dennis McKenna and they talk about how Moses' encounter with God and the burning bush might have been a DMT experience with the source of the DMT being the acacia tree. They questioned what medium would have been used to metabolize the DMT since it wouldn't be orally active without an MAOI correct?
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Sorry for the late reply. I cant quite put my finger on what's changed. I used to need at least an 8th to get funky and do 5-7g doses regularly. Now I can get proper trippy on 2g I feel the shrrom visuals ha e took on a dmt edge to them but it ain't just shrooms.sometime when I smoke heroin ill close my eyes and get flowing morphong sacred geometry. That shit is fucked up. But very welcome and relaxing.
-------------------- I HUNT MAGIC MUSHROOMS AND MAKE MIND BLOWING TEA, I BUY ROOT BARK OFF THE INTERNET AND EXTRACT DMT, SMOKE MY FRIENDS CHANGA IT TASTES BETTER FOR FREE TRIPPING IS WONDERFUL IT HELPS ME FIND PEACE, SO WILL YOU COME ALONG TO MY NEXT EUPHORIC FEAST. I LOVE MUSHROOMS THEY MUSH UP THE ROOM THERE AINT MUCH ROOM IN HERE SPECIAL GREEN TEA MADE FROM A CACTUS TREE SETS YOUR MIND AND SPIRIT FREE
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I was watching these ayahuasca ceremonies. When these people were taking ayahuasca, during the ezperience they weren’t interacting with ayahuasca in their minds, they were interacting with spirits, revelations and by the sixth night going to God. They consistently praise ayahuasca as a WAY to reach that state. The experience isn’t in the cup, the visions arent in their cup. The drinking of the tea is simply a WAY to reach those visions.
Think of it, if you wan’t to get to the other side of the world and meet someone from the Shroomery a way to get there is potentially car if it’s a north/ south thing, Greyhound, plane, boat....all different WAYS to get to the person, but those ways aren’t the person you’re meeting. You know what I’m saying?
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
#24709905 - 10/14/17 03:24 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I was watching these ayahuasca ceremonies. When these people were taking ayahuasca, during the ezperience they weren’t interacting with ayahuasca in their minds, they were interacting with spirits, revelations and by the sixth night going to God. They consistently praise ayahuasca as a WAY to reach that state. The experience isn’t in the cup, the visions arent in their cup. The drinking of the tea is simply a WAY to reach those visions.
Think of it, if you wan’t to get to the other side of the world and meet someone from the Shroomery a way to get there is potentially car if it’s a north/ south thing, Greyhound, plane, boat....all different WAYS to get to the person, but those ways aren’t the person you’re meeting. You know what I’m saying?
 
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travishibachi said: Very interesting! I was just listening to one of Joe Rogan's podcasts with Dennis McKenna and they talk about how Moses' encounter with God and the burning bush might have been a DMT experience with the source of the DMT being the acacia tree. They questioned what medium would have been used to metabolize the DMT since it wouldn't be orally active without an MAOI correct?
I would think that DMT is active orally without a maoi if you ingest a large enough amount. They also would be active throuigh snorting.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86] 1
#24711167 - 10/15/17 05:56 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I was watching these ayahuasca ceremonies. When these people were taking ayahuasca, during the ezperience they weren’t interacting with ayahuasca in their minds, they were interacting with spirits, revelations and by the sixth night going to God. They consistently praise ayahuasca as a WAY to reach that state. The experience isn’t in the cup, the visions arent in their cup. The drinking of the tea is simply a WAY to reach those visions.
Think of it, if you wan’t to get to the other side of the world and meet someone from the Shroomery a way to get there is potentially car if it’s a north/ south thing, Greyhound, plane, boat....all different WAYS to get to the person, but those ways aren’t the person you’re meeting. You know what I’m saying?
The Daime Ayahuasca Church in Oregon who won their federal district court case and are legally allowed to have Ayahuasca in the U.S., believe that Ayahuasca is the "blood of Christ" and they pray to Ayahuasca. The Vegetal Church, whose case went to the U.S. Supreme Court, and is now allowed to have Ayahuasca, believe that Ayahuasca is a Deity.
-------------------- The Day of the Lord has come like a thief in the night. -- It is there but no one knows it.
Edited by endogenous (10/15/17 05:59 AM)
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Very interesting
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Thats interesting. I might have to join this Church in the great state of Oregon.
I know about "Peyote Road" where u can legally take Peyote in a religious context.
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Yeah and the Christian church believes red wine is. Did Jesus bleed out red wine or ayahuasca when he was being beaten and crucified? Maybe, but I doubt it. I think some symbolism is taking place there.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
#24711844 - 10/15/17 12:53 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I thought the wine was also symbolism for how Jesus turned "water into wine".
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