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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #24613787 - 09/08/17 01:19 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

About Satan.

I believe life works the way Matt Kahn describes it.

There isn't Source (pure awareness light) and then you and then Satan.

You are Source manifested as a human. The pure awareness light is inside you, hidden by your ego etc.



Also inside you is darkness, as there has to be an opposite, a yin/yang. They call this darkness the Shadow. And you can do "shadow work" to accept the shadow and once you accept it and stop fighting it, it cannot hurt or influence you.

Religious people interpret the Shadow as Satan.


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Kinshino] * 1
    #24613941 - 09/08/17 02:15 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Huh. Were u on shrooms at the time when that happened?

And thanks buddy, means a lot to me :hug:

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Re: I felt the Source [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #24614991 - 09/08/17 10:52 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

How many grams did you take?


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Ant89] * 1
    #24615114 - 09/09/17 12:04 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Kind of makes me build up in anticipation for the journey for which I am about to embark I have still only began gathering my resources but I don't want to leave ill prepared. Interesting ways to describe it though fellas.


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #24615236 - 09/09/17 03:07 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Dude.

Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?



What I'm saying is that satan is already there - inside the body. When God/Entheogens come into you it is possible that satan gets temporarily "exorcized" - "cast out". Satan hates God/Entheogens. It tries to convince you to not be close to God. Sometimes, it can't stand being so close and it leaves. At that moment, there is a feeling of "bliss". But satan seems to time it so that it only lasts for a few seconds and then there's an attack. Then you get uptight - which means satan is back in.

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I think entheogens like mushrooms put the mind a state that can tune into divine Source/God-Energy. Im not exactly sure yet if i believe psychedelics are a direct "piece" of God. Not sure yet on that one. But most are naturally made so maybe :shrug:




I'm talking about the Being who Indra, Christ, Moses, Buddha, Mohamed, etc. called "God"

In order to understand that you have to look at the scriptures.

Like, for instance, the RgVeda says that Soma was the "Creator of the gods".

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And about that Bible quote. It mentions at night is evil and its all about being awake for the light. What about lucid dreaming/dreaming in general? Is dreaming "evil"?



He (St. Paul) doesn't mean that the physical "night" is evil.

There is the physical "day" and the physical sun.

There is the Spiritual Day and the Spiritual Sun.

The Spiritual Sun is, of course, God/Entheogens.

People who are Spiritually "asleep" are not Aware of who God or Christ is. They are "dead" to God.

"A pagan does not die. For they have never Lived in order that they may die.
Those who have believed the Truth have found Life. And this one is in danger of dying - for they are Alive."

-- Gospel of St. Phillip (Gnostic)


"8 You were darkness once, but now you are light in the Lord; be like children of Light, 9 for the effects of the Light are seen in complete goodness and right living and Truth. 10 Try to discover what the Lord wants of you, 11 having nothing to do with the futile works of darkness but exposing them by contrast. 12 The things which are done in the dark are things that people are ashamed even to speak of; 13 but anything exposed by the Light will be illuminated 14 and anything illuminated turns into Light. That is why it is said:

Wake up from your sleep,

rise from the dead,

and Christ will shine on you.
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-- Ephesians, 5, 8

Edited by endogenous (09/09/17 03:50 AM)

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Re: I felt the Source [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #24635659 - 09/16/17 03:37 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.
4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;"

-- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)




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what is sobering to me, is that you have absorbed too much archaic mythology, it is not responsible of you to spread that around.




I don't know why anybody wanted all mythology to be Archaic. Modern psychology relies upon the Hero Mythos frequently.  Karl Jung's Archetypes are the same stories as of old.  Everybody's own mind contains the same archaic mythology as anybody else's mind, and if you reject letting such stories break through into your daily consciousness, you risk coming across as insane.

Actually it is the most responsible a person can be, to spread the New Testament. The 1Thessalonians,5,1-5 quote is spot on.  Calling it, and belief associated with, "archaic" suggests being afraid of the Bible.  And if it is just Satan you were calling Archaic, you have no reason to have posted.  People who reject the calling to God and also openly reject the calling of Satan, are who prove themselves outwards in the world, worse even than the followers of Satan (who at least shut up and suffer their own fall keeping it to themselves most often), and were among those suffering as in the Bible quote.  Those who followed Satan more covertly and in open have claimed to be more righteous than the followers of true Love, are not who push Satan upon the rest of us, but suffer themselves as liars within. Following Satan covertly and shying away from Christ consciousness, is less likely to be thieved from than overtly following him.  Those who followed Satan overtly and in an overt way promoted themselves as if they could control what Satan was, tend to not even believe in Satan.  But calling Satan archaic, suggests being afraid of him.

I think citing "archaic mythology" as if modern day belief can surpass and dismiss simultaneous, is evidence of being afraid of thieves in the night, perhaps because of being one, but perhaps because of being victim of those who imagine they could define why we are warned against the devil and demons.  And that is why, anybody who believes in mythology, religious and indigenous, had no fear, nor reason to find fault with, anybody who did that.  The worth of the future, like the worth of the present, is founded in the lived lives of the past.  Jesus is just one such life, but a life whose DMT trip on the cross, is defining all our lives now.

Psychedelics can make us susceptible to thieves in the night, in the aftermath of the psychedelic high, but only if we fail to integrate the journey well.  Integration is key.  Archaic mythology is also modern and living and is the means of integrating all dreams and visionary experiences and psychedelics. Without integration occurring, the thieves in the night, who might surprise us as a war on drugs, but also as opposition to the war on drugs, and also just as innocent spectators who realise that what's wrong is not the drugs by the politics surrounding, they come and they plunder the aftermath of psychedelic experience.

Don't be afraid.  If you want mythology to be archaic, your integration process will be thieved from in the night, and you won't need live any human life of what you have witnessed above.

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Re: I felt the Source [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #24635697 - 09/16/17 03:46 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Dude.

Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?



What I'm saying is that satan is already there - inside the body. When God/Entheogens come into you it is possible that satan gets temporarily "exorcized" - "cast out". Satan hates God/Entheogens. It tries to convince you to not be close to God. Sometimes, it can't stand being so close and it leaves. At that moment, there is a feeling of "bliss". But satan seems to time it so that it only lasts for a few seconds and then there's an attack. Then you get uptight - which means satan is back in.





Satan comes into the picture by a number of means. If we set our intent aligned with him, he will be there within the experience, even if we don't recognize him.  I have seen that in someone.  If we fail to integrate the experience of using psychedelics to get out of dealing with Satan, then he gets that, and the deal goes more his way. 

Casting out Satan doesn't happen via entheogens, although entheogens are not excluded from the way he can be cast out.  But casting him out is by proving to him, that you can integrate your approaching God, better without Satan inside you, than with Satan.

And as to how it is possible that Satan can enter the picture during use of entheogens, is because for some folks, Satan is their whole concept of God. Their intent thus, in using entheogens might be just respite from self belief in their God as the devil.  A terrible fate for anybody, and a hard task to cast Satan out if anybody had him confused with God, by how they caused their own delusions of control.

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Re: I felt the Source [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #24682610 - 10/04/17 03:29 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Dude.

Thats some heavy shit.



Something happened again --

Early sunday morning, I started seeing the Light of God (Entheogens), really clearly and strongly although I had ingested the same amount of Tryptamine as usual.

I started getting afraid that something bad was going to happen. It was very much like a heavy spirit (satan) had left and I was suddenly feeling and seeing bliss.

A few unpleasant things happened that day -- someone tore apart bags of garbage that were at the curb for pick-up and left garbage strewn all over the sidewalk. I told some friends that I wondered if something bad was going to happen.

Then I heard about Las Vegas on sunday night.


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #24682625 - 10/04/17 03:48 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Whoa, thats trippy. Syncronities at work!

The garbage all over the ground sounds like a metaphor for dead bodies all over the ground.

Then your shroom experience. Im sure of it, u were getting some precognition feelings of something about to happen.

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Re: I felt the Source [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #24684034 - 10/04/17 05:23 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I too have felt what you speak of.......Truly only once. Which I am forever grateful for!!!
      That Absolute Love is Completely Enveloping!!! Showed me the REAL, TRUE meaning of AWESOME!!!!!!! Haha! No joke either!

        I agree with a lot of your philosophies as well. :wink: I also believe mushrooms are one of the vessels that allow us to "open" our minds.


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Threads from God89] * 1
    #24684120 - 10/04/17 05:48 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Its incredible isnt it?

I imagine the afterlife/ascension must feel similar. Im hooked. I wanna go there again. The feeling is literally Divine.

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Re: I felt the Source [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #24684411 - 10/04/17 07:31 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, it Truly is.......


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Threads from God89] * 1
    #24685102 - 10/05/17 03:42 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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I too have felt what you speak of.......Truly only once. Which I am forever grateful for!!!
      That Absolute Love is Completely Enveloping!!! Showed me the REAL, TRUE meaning of AWESOME!!!!!!! Haha! No joke either!

        I agree with a lot of your philosophies as well. :wink: I also believe mushrooms are one of the vessels that allow us to "open" our minds.



As I mentioned before - Entheogens are the true Flesh of God. They are what Christ called "the Father".

Satan is "cast out" for brief periods because it can't stand being close to God.

Saint John said, "5 This is what we have heard from him, and the message that we are announcing to you: God is Light; there is no darkness in Them at all." -- 1John, 1, 5

They are not talking about outer light like the physical sun, etc. They are talking about the spiritual Light of Entheogens.

"There is no darkness in Them at all." because satan cannot stand to be close to God - Entheogens.


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: endogenous] * 2
    #24686079 - 10/05/17 02:14 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I felt "the source" on a blackout dose of wood lovers, it was more of a "white out" as everything literally went white :lol: I literally "saw the light" :tongue2:

But it was easily the most euphoric and positive experience I have ever had, it was like my consciousness was transported to a dimension of pure love and light :heart:

I remember hearing strange angelic voices but I have no memory of what they said. I remember they sounded a lot like Pink Floyd's Celestial Voices:


Pink Floyd - The End Of The Beginning (Celestial Voices)(With Choir and Orchestra)


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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    #24686669 - 10/05/17 06:39 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Teonanacatl.......correct? The Flesh of The Gods. Also when you quote The book of John my New Century Version says "God is Light, and In HIM there is no darkness at all". The New Living Translation that I have clearly says "Him" as well. ???
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I too have felt what you speak of.......Truly only once. Which I am forever grateful for!!!
      That Absolute Love is Completely Enveloping!!! Showed me the REAL, TRUE meaning of AWESOME!!!!!!! Haha! No joke either!

        I agree with a lot of your philosophies as well. :wink: I also believe mushrooms are one of the vessels that allow us to "open" our minds.



As I mentioned before - Entheogens are the true Flesh of God. They are what Christ called "the Father".

Satan is "cast out" for brief periods because it can't stand being close to God.

Saint John said, "5 This is what we have heard from him, and the message that we are announcing to you: God is Light; there is no darkness in Them at all." -- 1John, 1, 5

They are not talking about outer light like the physical sun, etc. They are talking about the spiritual Light of Entheogens.

"There is no darkness in Them at all." because satan cannot stand to be close to God - Entheogens.




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Re: I felt the Source [Re: endogenous] * 2
    #24686740 - 10/05/17 07:12 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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I have some sobering news about this.

There is a satan just as there is a God/Entheogens.

Every living thing has God/Entheogens in them. They also have satan.

Satan hates God because God exposes it.

The goal of the Spiritual Discipline is to reach the "Place of Rest". The "Place of Rest" is the state of being in God's/Entheogen's Presence in a relaxed condition.

That State is satan's mortal enemy. Therefore, it attacks to prevent it from continuing.

I've thought it's like the demon inside ourselves is "cast out" by that condition - and it enters into someone else and then atacks to get back in.

Are you saying that you believe that Entheogens are God, the Creator?

"5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.

4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;"

-- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)





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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Curaezipirid] * 1
    #24686790 - 10/05/17 07:34 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Dude.

Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?



What I'm saying is that satan is already there - inside the body. When God/Entheogens come into you it is possible that satan gets temporarily "exorcized" - "cast out". Satan hates God/Entheogens. It tries to convince you to not be close to God. Sometimes, it can't stand being so close and it leaves. At that moment, there is a feeling of "bliss". But satan seems to time it so that it only lasts for a few seconds and then there's an attack. Then you get uptight - which means satan is back in.





Satan comes into the picture by a number of means. If we set our intent aligned with him, he will be there within the experience, even if we don't recognize him.  I have seen that in someone.  If we fail to integrate the experience of using psychedelics to get out of dealing with Satan, then he gets that, and the deal goes more his way. 

Casting out Satan doesn't happen via entheogens, although entheogens are not excluded from the way he can be cast out.  But casting him out is by proving to him, that you can integrate your approaching God, better without Satan inside you, than with Satan.

And as to how it is possible that Satan can enter the picture during use of entheogens, is because for some folks, Satan is their whole concept of God. Their intent thus, in using entheogens might be just respite from self belief in their God as the devil.  A terrible fate for anybody, and a hard task to cast Satan out if anybody had him confused with God, by how they caused their own delusions of control.


  Well said...


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Threads from God89] * 1
    #24687486 - 10/06/17 03:49 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Teonanacatl.......correct? The Flesh of The Gods. Also when you quote The book of John my New Century Version says "God is Light, and In HIM there is no darkness at all". The New Living Translation that I have clearly says "Him" as well. ???



Teonanacatl means "God's Flesh". God, the Creator, (the Father) could also be considered the Flesh of the gods, since, in some religions, those who believe in Them are called "gods".

I don't use the word "Him" for God, the Creator. The Hebrew word for God is "Elohim" which is plural.

God is made up of the Spirits of the ascended Saints - male and female - so I don't like to say "Him". Although in the Letter to the Hebrews they say "what you have come to is Mount Zion and the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem where the millions of angels have gathered for the festival, 23 with the whole Church in which everyone is a "first-born son" and a citizen of heaven.". Hebrews, 12, 22

So females are being considered "first-born sons".  But I still prefer to say "Them". There is more than one Entheogen although They are One in Spirit.


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #24689401 - 10/06/17 07:35 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

My Bible says that God consists of three main parts. #1. The Father (original creator of all life), #2. The Son; Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and #3. The Holy Spirit. I personally do not believe that God is "comprised" of former priests who WERE MERE MEN WITH FLAWS.

  Your views are very interesting to me though.


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    #24689417 - 10/06/17 07:45 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

When asked where He had been Satan replied something like "I have been walking back and forth upon the Earth", Satan owns the Earth as he was given it as His realm with which to tempt mankind.

    I believe the Devil's presence is upon the earth and not in entheogens. Entheogens like mushrooms are a neutral thing. Subject to the laws of Good and Evil alike. We are all given our "Free Will" with which to do as we please......whether it's good or bad.

  With Respects.


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