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LogicaL Chaos said: And then my GF called right then, strangest of timing. What does it mean?
One can wonder.
This was after ingesting a Psychedelic?
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I have some sobering news about this.
There is a satan just as there is a God/Entheogens.
Every living thing has God/Entheogens in them. They also have satan.
Satan hates God because God exposes it.
The goal of the Spiritual Discipline is to reach the "Place of Rest". The "Place of Rest" is the state of being in God's/Entheogen's Presence in a relaxed condition.
That State is satan's mortal enemy. Therefore, it attacks to prevent it from continuing.
I've thought it's like the demon inside ourselves is "cast out" by that condition - and it enters into someone else and then atacks to get back in.
Are you saying that you believe that Entheogens are God, the Creator?
"5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.
4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;" -- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)
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Oh - a "self-righteous" atheist!
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LogicaL Chaos said: Dude.
Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?
What I'm saying is that satan is already there - inside the body. When God/Entheogens come into you it is possible that satan gets temporarily "exorcized" - "cast out". Satan hates God/Entheogens. It tries to convince you to not be close to God. Sometimes, it can't stand being so close and it leaves. At that moment, there is a feeling of "bliss". But satan seems to time it so that it only lasts for a few seconds and then there's an attack. Then you get uptight - which means satan is back in.
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I think entheogens like mushrooms put the mind a state that can tune into divine Source/God-Energy. Im not exactly sure yet if i believe psychedelics are a direct "piece" of God. Not sure yet on that one. But most are naturally made so maybe
I'm talking about the Being who Indra, Christ, Moses, Buddha, Mohamed, etc. called "God"
In order to understand that you have to look at the scriptures.
Like, for instance, the RgVeda says that Soma was the "Creator of the gods".
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And about that Bible quote. It mentions at night is evil and its all about being awake for the light. What about lucid dreaming/dreaming in general? Is dreaming "evil"?
He (St. Paul) doesn't mean that the physical "night" is evil.
There is the physical "day" and the physical sun.
There is the Spiritual Day and the Spiritual Sun.
The Spiritual Sun is, of course, God/Entheogens.
People who are Spiritually "asleep" are not Aware of who God or Christ is. They are "dead" to God.
"A pagan does not die. For they have never Lived in order that they may die. Those who have believed the Truth have found Life. And this one is in danger of dying - for they are Alive." -- Gospel of St. Phillip (Gnostic)
"8 You were darkness once, but now you are light in the Lord; be like children of Light, 9 for the effects of the Light are seen in complete goodness and right living and Truth. 10 Try to discover what the Lord wants of you, 11 having nothing to do with the futile works of darkness but exposing them by contrast. 12 The things which are done in the dark are things that people are ashamed even to speak of; 13 but anything exposed by the Light will be illuminated 14 and anything illuminated turns into Light. That is why it is said:
Wake up from your sleep,
rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you."
-- Ephesians, 5, 8
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LogicaL Chaos said: Dude.
Thats some heavy shit.
Something happened again --
Early sunday morning, I started seeing the Light of God (Entheogens), really clearly and strongly although I had ingested the same amount of Tryptamine as usual.
I started getting afraid that something bad was going to happen. It was very much like a heavy spirit (satan) had left and I was suddenly feeling and seeing bliss.
A few unpleasant things happened that day -- someone tore apart bags of garbage that were at the curb for pick-up and left garbage strewn all over the sidewalk. I told some friends that I wondered if something bad was going to happen.
Then I heard about Las Vegas on sunday night.
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Threads from God89 said: I too have felt what you speak of.......Truly only once. Which I am forever grateful for!!! That Absolute Love is Completely Enveloping!!! Showed me the REAL, TRUE meaning of AWESOME!!!!!!! Haha! No joke either!
I agree with a lot of your philosophies as well. I also believe mushrooms are one of the vessels that allow us to "open" our minds.
As I mentioned before - Entheogens are the true Flesh of God. They are what Christ called "the Father".
Satan is "cast out" for brief periods because it can't stand being close to God.
Saint John said, "5 This is what we have heard from him, and the message that we are announcing to you: God is Light; there is no darkness in Them at all." -- 1John, 1, 5
They are not talking about outer light like the physical sun, etc. They are talking about the spiritual Light of Entheogens.
"There is no darkness in Them at all." because satan cannot stand to be close to God - Entheogens.
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Threads from God89 said: Teonanacatl.......correct? The Flesh of The Gods. Also when you quote The book of John my New Century Version says "God is Light, and In HIM there is no darkness at all". The New Living Translation that I have clearly says "Him" as well. ???
Teonanacatl means "God's Flesh". God, the Creator, (the Father) could also be considered the Flesh of the gods, since, in some religions, those who believe in Them are called "gods".
I don't use the word "Him" for God, the Creator. The Hebrew word for God is "Elohim" which is plural.
God is made up of the Spirits of the ascended Saints - male and female - so I don't like to say "Him". Although in the Letter to the Hebrews they say "what you have come to is Mount Zion and the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem where the millions of angels have gathered for the festival, 23 with the whole Church in which everyone is a "first-born son" and a citizen of heaven.". Hebrews, 12, 22
So females are being considered "first-born sons". But I still prefer to say "Them". There is more than one Entheogen although They are One in Spirit.
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Threads from God89 said: My Bible says that God consists of three main parts. #1. The Father (original creator of all life), #2. The Son; Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and #3. The Holy Spirit. I personally do not believe that God is "comprised" of former priests who WERE MERE MEN WITH FLAWS.
Your views are very interesting to me though.
Christ was a "mere human with flaws".
5- 1 Every high priest has been taken out of humankind and is appointed to act for people in their relations with God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sin; and so 2 he can sympathize with those who are ignorant or uncertain because he too lives in the limitations of weakness. 3 That is why he has to make sin offerings for himself as well as for the people. 4 No one takes this honour on himself, but each one is called by God. 5 Nor did Christ give himself the glory of becoming high priest, but he had it from the one who said to him: You are my son, today I have become your father, 6 and in another text: You are a priest of the order of Mechizedek, and for ever. -- Hebrews, 5, 1
But what else could be the purpose of the True Church, other than to make it possible for people to grow from imperfection into perfection? From human into Entheogen (God).
St. Paul, speaking of God/Entheogens, said: Now this Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 and we, with our unveiled faces reflecting like mirrors the brightness of the Lord, all grow brighter and brighter as we are turned into the image that we reflect; this is the work of the Lord who is Spirit. -- 2Corinthians, 3, 17
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Threads from God89 said: In modern Hebrew, ELOHIM is referred to as Singular I believe.
"Elohim אֱלֹהִים is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "deity" in Biblical Hebrew. In Modern Hebrew, it is often referred to in the singular despite the -im ending that denotes plural masculine nouns in Hebrew. In Hebrew, the ending -im normally indicates a masculine plural." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
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Well - it's not at all surprising to me when people fail to see who the Creator of Christ, Buddha, Moses, Indra, etc., was.
The Hebrews wandered in the desert for 40 years and practically none of them reached the "place of rest". God called them a "set of rebels". And the "place of rest" is what this thread was originally about -- the place that is free of "satan" -- what was being called "the Source".
To me it's not hard to see.
The RgVeda calls Soma "the Creator of the gods". Soma was the Creator of Indra and all the other gods. Soma is still known, today, to have been a Plant.
The "Christians" have a "communion" in which they eat a substance that is supposed to turn into God/Christ's body and they're supposed to then become one with "God" and to see the "light" and receive the "holy spirit".
The Hindus have a similar Communion -- but their "bread" is made of Marijuana.
They also consider it a sin to ingest Marijuana without that belief.
Marijuana is considered to bring people into oneness with Shiva and to cleanse of sins. Marijuana is believed to be a part of the Body of Amrita/Soma -- which the Veda identifies as the Creator (Father).
The "Christians" have lost the Name (identity) of the God that Christ had revealed. That is why new religions are born -- the old religion loses the identity of God - someone ingests Entheogens and begins to realize that Entheogens are the true God that the old religion had originally worshiped.
You all can make up your own definition for "God" -- I'm talking about the God of Christ, Buddha, Indra, Moses, etc.
And that is the true God --
Entheogens.
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Being a True Christian is about having Jesus in your heart
How can you "have Jesus in your heart" if you don't know who Jesus called God?
The main Mission of Christ was to make the Name of God known. That Name was obviously NOT what the world thought that God was. And the "god" that most of the people in this thread think is God -- is the same god of the world that most people have always believed to be "God".
"O just Creator, the world has not known You, but I have known You, and these have known that You have sent me. So have I declared, so will I declare Your Name to them." --St. John, 17,25
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Threads from God89 said: Thank you Logical.
Well, I guess according to the Hindus then I'm about to commit another sin cuz im gonna smoke some "Marijuana" before I go to work then!!! Haha, You guys have a good one today, im off to cook some kick-ass food, right after I smoke this "marijuana" 
"But now what is there for Me here? - it is Yahweh who speaks - now that My people have been carried off for nothing, and their masters shout their triumph - it is Yahweh who speaks - all day long My Name is constantly blasphemed. My people will therefore know My Name, that day they will understand that it is I who say, "I am here." -- Isaiah, 52, 5
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: BasilBush]
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BasilBush said: Glad u met source. We all end up a part of it one day. It told me.
"Our" consciousness is made up of DMT, 5MeO-DMT, and other Entheogens.
But, to actually be a part of Them, a person has to understand and accept that They (Entheogens) are the true God.
"They are the Eternal among things that pass away. Pure Consciousness of consciousnes beings. The ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their souls attain the Peace eternal." -- Katha Upanishad
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: I would be willing to bet a good number of people will reach this heaven or heavenly state never having taken a mind altering substance similar to psilocybin, dmt, mescaline etc etc etc.
The body produces DMT, 5MeO-DMT and other Entheogens. When a person phsyically dies they then meet these Beings - who are God.
That is why people who've had near death experiences have experiences that are alot like when people ingest Entheogens.
A friend of mine OD'd on heroin. He told me it was exactly like DMT.
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redgreenvines said: rats have it naturally, but it is endogenously indetectible in humans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Endogenous_DMT
Strassman's theory is not good.
According to this study, they found nanogram amounts of DMT - not picograms (as stated by Nichols) using liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry with electrospray ionization (LC-ESI-MS/MS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#cite_note-pmid16095048-66
In the cerebral spinal fluid they found up to 100 MICROgrams per liter. (There's up to ~270 ml csf in an adult) So possibly 25 ugms of DMT in the csf of an adult.
I don't know how to gauge the strength of that amount of DMT in cs fluid. I would think DMT would be much stronger there being so close to nerves and brain.
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Amanita86 said: I have a bunch of bible passages that could be interpreted as referring to entheogens and they are referreded to as manna. If that’s what they are talking about it is said in context as food or a way too God, not as being God. I’ll get them up here when I feel like gathering them together but a few google searches will pull them up, I’m sure you’ll have no trouble should you decide to put in the footwork.
I will not be a flamer on here but also part of my life involves a quest for truth and facts among the interpretation of the bible, although I will say that I should probably read it MUCH more, that's beside my point.
"It is said in context as FOOD or A WAY TO GOD". This "Manna from heaven" I believe, are a MEANS OF OBTAINING GOD! They are Not Actually God.
God told Moses "I Am That I Am," this is most commonly, and by myself, interpreted to mean He Lives Through Man as He Created Us in His Image.
If the knowlege that the God of Moses was Entheogens had survived the editors of the Old Testament, there would have been no need for the appearance of Christ.
8"How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie. 9"The wise men are put to shame, They are dismayed and caught; Behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, And what kind of wisdom do they have?… -- Jeremiah, 8, 8
It is clear that by the time of Christ, the "Jews" no longer knew who God was. That is why Christ said that the world didn't know God and that His Mission was to reveal the Name of God.
It is clear that the Hebrews had alot of Entheogens. E.g.:
The "Burning Bush" which said: "I am that I am". Here it is obvious -- this is a Plant that was God!!! My understanding is that this Plant was a red Amanita growing under a small pine tree. It would seem like the bush was on fire but not being consumed. Wasson believed that this red Amanita was the original Creator God of the Hindus called Soma.
The "Manna": In Exodus, 16,14 Manna is described as being "a fine, flake-like thing" like hoarfrost on the ground.
(Hoarfrost)
(Psilocybin Mycilium
The Book of Numbers (11, 7) says that Manna arrives with the dew during the night, just like mushrooms. They had to be collected before the heat of the sun caused Them to melt and breed worms --which happens to mushrooms. They were described as white, which is the color of mycelium, and also as the color of coriander seed. Coriander seed is brownish yellow, which is the color of the Psilocybin Mushrooms Themselves.
coriander seeds
Psilocybin Mushrooms
And guess what all of the wood in the "Trysting Tent", where the people would go to meet with God, was made of? -- ACACIA.
And as many Shroomery readers know -- many species of Acacia bark contain DMT.
And for Marijuana:
This is an excerpt from a usenet thread:
From: Dennis Shields (konagold@ilhawaii.net) Subject: CANNABIS IS A SACRAMENT OF MOSES [was] Why Christians Hate POT!!! Newsgroups: alt.2600, alt.censorship, alt.christnet, alt.culture.usenet, alt.drugs, alt.drugs.culture, alt.drugs.pot, alt.drugs.psychedelics Date: 1996/02/25
[....] Cannabis use in the Old Testament was again looked at in 1936, by Sula Benet. Unlike Creighton, who felt that cannabis was never mentioned directly, Benet stated that the original Hebrew versions of the old testament and the Aramaic translations contained references to cannabis by name; "In the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament there are references to hemp, both as incense, which was an integral part of religious celebration, and as an intoxicant." . The name cannabis is generally thought to be of Scythian origin, but Benet argues that it has a much earlier origin in Semitic languages like Hebrew, occurring several times in the Old Testament. . Benet also informs us of hemp’s role as a sacred oil, stating that in Exodus 30:23 God commands Moses to make a holy anointing oil of myrrh, sweet cinnamon, kaneh bosm, and kassia. He continues that the word kaneh bosm is also rendered in traditional Hebrew as kannabos or kannabus and that the root "kan" in this construction means "reed" or "hemp", while "bosm" means "aromatic". This word appeared in Exodus 30:23, Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, Eziekiel 27:19, Song of Songs 4:14. An ancient Hebrew religious requirement was that the dead be buried in hemp (referred to as Kaneh) shirts (Klien 1908). For some unknown reason this word disappeared from the text. and has been mistranslated as calamus..'The error occurred in the oldest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, Septuagint in the third century B.C., where the terms *kaneh, kaneh bosm were incorrectly translated as 'calamus'. And in the many translations that followed, including Martin Luther's, the same error was repeated.'. **( from 'Cannabis and Culture', Vera Rubin Editor, and 'The Book of Grass', Edited by Andrews and Vinkenoog ). [end quote]
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travishibachi said: Very interesting! I was just listening to one of Joe Rogan's podcasts with Dennis McKenna and they talk about how Moses' encounter with God and the burning bush might have been a DMT experience with the source of the DMT being the acacia tree. They questioned what medium would have been used to metabolize the DMT since it wouldn't be orally active without an MAOI correct?
I would think that DMT is active orally without a maoi if you ingest a large enough amount. They also would be active throuigh snorting.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86] 1
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Amanita86 said: I was watching these ayahuasca ceremonies. When these people were taking ayahuasca, during the ezperience they weren’t interacting with ayahuasca in their minds, they were interacting with spirits, revelations and by the sixth night going to God. They consistently praise ayahuasca as a WAY to reach that state. The experience isn’t in the cup, the visions arent in their cup. The drinking of the tea is simply a WAY to reach those visions.
Think of it, if you wan’t to get to the other side of the world and meet someone from the Shroomery a way to get there is potentially car if it’s a north/ south thing, Greyhound, plane, boat....all different WAYS to get to the person, but those ways aren’t the person you’re meeting. You know what I’m saying?
The Daime Ayahuasca Church in Oregon who won their federal district court case and are legally allowed to have Ayahuasca in the U.S., believe that Ayahuasca is the "blood of Christ" and they pray to Ayahuasca. The Vegetal Church, whose case went to the U.S. Supreme Court, and is now allowed to have Ayahuasca, believe that Ayahuasca is a Deity.
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Re: I felt the Source [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: Yeah and the Christian church believes red wine is. Did Jesus bleed out red wine or ayahuasca when he was being beaten and crucified? Maybe, but I doubt it. I think some symbolism is taking place there.
Right. The crucifixion wasn't physical. That is why St. Paul said "As for me, the only thing I can boast about is the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom the world is crucified to me, and I to the world." Galatians, 6,14
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Wake up from your sleep,
rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you. --Ephesians, 5, 8
So, how can someone who is physically alive be "raised from the dead"?
And you were dead, through the trespasses and the sins 2 in which you used to live when you were following the way of this world -- Ephesians, 2, 1
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You have been taught that when we were baptised in Christ Jesus we were baptised into his death; when we were baptised we went into the tomb with him and joined him in death, so that as Christ was raised by the glory of Yahweh, we too might live and move in the new sphere of life. …in that way, you too must consider yourselves to be dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. –Romans 6, 3
So, Christ's death was NOT physical. That is why He said "you must be born again". It wasn't a physical birth or a physical death.
And the beginning of that birth - and death - is the belief in the Name of God: Entheogens.
Entheogens are a REAL God. They have a PHYSICAL body like every other real thing.
That is why when Moses asked the "Burning Bush" "what shall I tell the people that your Name is?" They replied, "Tell them that I AM"
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LogicaL Chaos said: I thought the wine was also symbolism for how Jesus turned "water into wine".
Entheogens - are the Water when given without the revelation that They are God. The "Wine" or "Blood" is the Water (Entheogens) combined with the revelation of Their Name.
John the Baptist didn't have that knowledge - and he baptized with only "Water" (Entheogens).
Christ "walked on the Water" -- He was raised up by Them.
The "Water" was the realm of those who were dead to God - they didn't know or believe in God's Name.. Christ said "I will make you fishers of humans."
Those who came to know and believe in God's Name were "raised from the dead" and walked on the Water.
The real Light, which enlightens every person, was coming then into the world . They entered the world - the world which existed through Them, yet the world did not recognize Them; They came to what was Their own, yet Their own folk did not welcome Them. On those who have accepted Them, however, They have conferred the right of being children of God, that is, on those who believe in Their Name, who owe this birth of theirs to God, not to human blood, nor to any impulse of the flesh or of humans. – St. John, 1, 9
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