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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: I felt the Source [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #24612329 - 09/07/17 07:11 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: I felt the Source [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #24635659 - 09/16/17 03:37 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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5- 1 You will not be expecting us to write anything to you, believers, about "times and seasons," 2 since you know very well that the Day of the Lord is going to come like a thief in the night. 3 It is when people are saying, "How quiet and peaceful it is" that an attack suddenly happens, as suddenly as labour pains come on a pregnant woman; and there will be no way for anybody to evade it.
4 But it is not as if you live in the dark, believers, for that Day to overtake you like a thief. 5 No, you are all children of Light and children of the Day: we do not belong to the night or to darkness, 6 so we should not go on sleeping, as everyone else does, but stay wide awake and sober. 7 Night is the time for sleepers to sleep and drunkards to be drunk, 8 but we belong to the Day and we should be sober;"

-- 1Thessalonians, 5, 1 (St. Paul)




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what is sobering to me, is that you have absorbed too much archaic mythology, it is not responsible of you to spread that around.




I don't know why anybody wanted all mythology to be Archaic. Modern psychology relies upon the Hero Mythos frequently.  Karl Jung's Archetypes are the same stories as of old.  Everybody's own mind contains the same archaic mythology as anybody else's mind, and if you reject letting such stories break through into your daily consciousness, you risk coming across as insane.

Actually it is the most responsible a person can be, to spread the New Testament. The 1Thessalonians,5,1-5 quote is spot on.  Calling it, and belief associated with, "archaic" suggests being afraid of the Bible.  And if it is just Satan you were calling Archaic, you have no reason to have posted.  People who reject the calling to God and also openly reject the calling of Satan, are who prove themselves outwards in the world, worse even than the followers of Satan (who at least shut up and suffer their own fall keeping it to themselves most often), and were among those suffering as in the Bible quote.  Those who followed Satan more covertly and in open have claimed to be more righteous than the followers of true Love, are not who push Satan upon the rest of us, but suffer themselves as liars within. Following Satan covertly and shying away from Christ consciousness, is less likely to be thieved from than overtly following him.  Those who followed Satan overtly and in an overt way promoted themselves as if they could control what Satan was, tend to not even believe in Satan.  But calling Satan archaic, suggests being afraid of him.

I think citing "archaic mythology" as if modern day belief can surpass and dismiss simultaneous, is evidence of being afraid of thieves in the night, perhaps because of being one, but perhaps because of being victim of those who imagine they could define why we are warned against the devil and demons.  And that is why, anybody who believes in mythology, religious and indigenous, had no fear, nor reason to find fault with, anybody who did that.  The worth of the future, like the worth of the present, is founded in the lived lives of the past.  Jesus is just one such life, but a life whose DMT trip on the cross, is defining all our lives now.

Psychedelics can make us susceptible to thieves in the night, in the aftermath of the psychedelic high, but only if we fail to integrate the journey well.  Integration is key.  Archaic mythology is also modern and living and is the means of integrating all dreams and visionary experiences and psychedelics. Without integration occurring, the thieves in the night, who might surprise us as a war on drugs, but also as opposition to the war on drugs, and also just as innocent spectators who realise that what's wrong is not the drugs by the politics surrounding, they come and they plunder the aftermath of psychedelic experience.

Don't be afraid.  If you want mythology to be archaic, your integration process will be thieved from in the night, and you won't need live any human life of what you have witnessed above.


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Re: I felt the Source [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #24635697 - 09/16/17 03:46 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude.

Thats some heavy shit. Are u suggesting that Satan can invade my mind when its in that Source/God-Energy? How is that even possible? Could that be the reason for the interruption?



What I'm saying is that satan is already there - inside the body. When God/Entheogens come into you it is possible that satan gets temporarily "exorcized" - "cast out". Satan hates God/Entheogens. It tries to convince you to not be close to God. Sometimes, it can't stand being so close and it leaves. At that moment, there is a feeling of "bliss". But satan seems to time it so that it only lasts for a few seconds and then there's an attack. Then you get uptight - which means satan is back in.





Satan comes into the picture by a number of means. If we set our intent aligned with him, he will be there within the experience, even if we don't recognize him.  I have seen that in someone.  If we fail to integrate the experience of using psychedelics to get out of dealing with Satan, then he gets that, and the deal goes more his way. 

Casting out Satan doesn't happen via entheogens, although entheogens are not excluded from the way he can be cast out.  But casting him out is by proving to him, that you can integrate your approaching God, better without Satan inside you, than with Satan.

And as to how it is possible that Satan can enter the picture during use of entheogens, is because for some folks, Satan is their whole concept of God. Their intent thus, in using entheogens might be just respite from self belief in their God as the devil.  A terrible fate for anybody, and a hard task to cast Satan out if anybody had him confused with God, by how they caused their own delusions of control.


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