Home | Community | Message Board

MushroomCube.com
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | Next >
InvisibleEnlilMDiscord
OTD God-King
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 66,956
Loc: Uncanny Valley
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #24576212 - 08/24/17 10:33 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

No, taking money isn't slavery in any way whatsoever.  No one is forced to work in this nation.  No one is owned as property.

All laws are a restriction of freedom in order so that we may coexist peacefully.  Your argument suggests that anything less than anarchy is slavery.


--------------------
Censoring opposing views since 2014.

Ask an Attorney

Fuck the Amish

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,891
Loc: Milky way
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576214 - 08/24/17 10:33 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Slavery is when a human being is property to be bought, sold, or disposed of at the owner's discretion.




that's one definition

you as a lawyer should know that there's not always just one condition to any definition

also slavery
a condition compared to that of a slave in respect of exhausting labor or restricted freedom

the interesting thing is the money is issued by the governmnet which makes it not money it's just an asset used for liquidity. and that asset can restrict your freedom when it's tinkered with by your government

real money would be food, gold, silver. those are commodities backed by the commodity itself.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCrazy_Horse
I’m Rick James, bitch!
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 13,545
Loc: Hampsterdam
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576215 - 08/24/17 10:34 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Assert your rights as a sovereign citizen.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,891
Loc: Milky way
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24576216 - 08/24/17 10:35 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Crazy_Horse said:
Assert your rights as a sovereign citizen.



you seen what happens to those people right ?

I would love to cut my drivers license up and say I'm a free traveler
I would love to cut my income tax letters up

but you have to play nice in our society or bad things will happen.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleEnlilMDiscord
OTD God-King
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 66,956
Loc: Uncanny Valley
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576218 - 08/24/17 10:35 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Under your logic, anything less than anarchy is slavery.  It's an absurd argument, but you're entitled to be wrong:shrug:


--------------------
Censoring opposing views since 2014.

Ask an Attorney

Fuck the Amish

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCrazy_Horse
I’m Rick James, bitch!
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 13,545
Loc: Hampsterdam
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576221 - 08/24/17 10:36 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

bodhisatta said:
Quote:

Crazy_Horse said:
Assert your rights as a sovereign citizen.



you seen what happens to those people right ?

I would love to cut my drivers license up and say I'm a free traveler
I would love to cut my income tax letters up

but you have to play nice in our society or bad things will happen.




They are idiots.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCrazy_Horse
I’m Rick James, bitch!
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 13,545
Loc: Hampsterdam
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576226 - 08/24/17 10:37 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

You are free to leave the country or be homeless. I am sure there are more choices.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,891
Loc: Milky way
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: Enlil]
    #24576227 - 08/24/17 10:38 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Enlil said:
Under your logic, anything less than anarchy is slavery.  It's an absurd argument, but you're entitled to be wrong:shrug:




At least you see where I'm coming from. I'm not that stupidly idealistic that I think true anarchy is achievable. but to avoid the fact that the society we created isn't slavery? it's just slavery that we're all pretty A-ok with because it helps us all work together for common goals

I feel like recognizing these things, or even doing the thought experiment to look at things differently like that can only help our situation.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleEnlilMDiscord
OTD God-King
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 66,956
Loc: Uncanny Valley
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24576228 - 08/24/17 10:38 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Lol, I get a few calls a month from sovereign citizen people who have one stupid theory or another.  I laugh at those fools.


--------------------
Censoring opposing views since 2014.

Ask an Attorney

Fuck the Amish

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleEnlilMDiscord
OTD God-King
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 66,956
Loc: Uncanny Valley
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576231 - 08/24/17 10:39 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

It's "slavery" we voted for, dude.  How is that slavery at all?


--------------------
Censoring opposing views since 2014.

Ask an Attorney

Fuck the Amish

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,891
Loc: Milky way
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: Enlil]
    #24576234 - 08/24/17 10:41 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I agree they're fools but in some way it's admirable

Quote:

Enlil said:
It's "slavery" we voted for, dude.  How is that slavery at all?




once again the pizza party argument, not everyone agreed. some people were in a different room when the vote happened

but like I said isn't it worth the thought experiment to see things in many different ways.

don't get me wrong. I operate just fine in society. but to not think it's a bit goofy and slavery like is kind of lying to yourself to make it seem more pleasant

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinekoods
Ribbit
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 106,722
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 6 hours, 28 minutes
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #24576235 - 08/24/17 10:42 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

bodhisatta said:
so democracy vs a king is all the difference? the illusion of choice?

well you got yourself into this mess so it's not slavery

and by the way "getting yourself into this mess" kind of works like this






Stop digging your hole. It's a moronic comparison and continuing to try and make it is only making
Yourself look completely ignorant


--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleEnlilMDiscord
OTD God-King
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 66,956
Loc: Uncanny Valley
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576239 - 08/24/17 10:42 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Thought is what led us here.  Without taxes, there is no government.  Without government, there are no enforceable laws.  Without laws, the strong control the weak. 

So, are taxes a form of slavery or a way to avoid it?


--------------------
Censoring opposing views since 2014.

Ask an Attorney

Fuck the Amish

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinekoods
Ribbit
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 106,722
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 6 hours, 28 minutes
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: koods]
    #24576246 - 08/24/17 10:45 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

One is you are owned by another person, your children are owned by that person and you have no hope of freedom and are worked until you die. The other you help pay for roads that take your children to school which you don't have to pay for yourself. Exactly the same :facepalm:


--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,891
Loc: Milky way
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: Enlil]
    #24576247 - 08/24/17 10:46 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

touche

avoidance of a worse kind of slavery.

we're always trying to perfect things. but if we think we're not slaves we don't move forward as fast at least that's the way I see it.

got to be real about our situation and be able to understand it in many points of views in order to intelligently make choices for the future.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCrazy_Horse
I’m Rick James, bitch!
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 13,545
Loc: Hampsterdam
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576249 - 08/24/17 10:48 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Watch roots.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,891
Loc: Milky way
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24576258 - 08/24/17 10:50 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Crazy_Horse said:
Watch roots.



why do you think I have such "absurd" arguments hah

I'm pretty sure the government owns me though,
I have a social security card.
I can't leave the country without permission.
I can't get back in without permission and usually being treated like a criminal first especially driving back from Canada thru Detroit.
I can't legally kill myself.
I can't evade my taxes
I had to sign up for selective service
I have to pay a huge fee to denounce my citizenship and then pay taxes on all my assets
etc..

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCrazy_Horse
I’m Rick James, bitch!
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 13,545
Loc: Hampsterdam
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576264 - 08/24/17 10:51 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Free white man problems.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,891
Loc: Milky way
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24576268 - 08/24/17 10:52 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

pretty much
but complacency isn't a good trait

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTantrika
Miss Ann Thrope
Female


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/26/12
Posts: 17,138
Loc: Lashed to the pyre
Re: Tearing down confederate statues is only going to make race relations worse. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24576270 - 08/24/17 10:53 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

bodhisatta said:
...





Have had this situation happen,
but rather than be locked in a closet,
did not get any pizza due to not throwing in for it

Truly we are all slaves to pizza tho




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | Next >

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Hurricane Katrina and race
( 1 2 all )
RandalFlagg 2,605 25 09/07/05 03:32 PM
by lonestar2004
* Interesting California referendum on race
( 1 2 3 all )
FileSoup 2,523 40 08/15/03 12:36 PM
by shakta
* Bush Statue toppled in London
( 1 2 3 all )
daussaulit 3,814 51 12/22/03 06:06 AM
by luvdemshrooms
* More Proof Against the Race Card
( 1 2 all )
SirTripAlot 2,565 28 12/20/05 02:00 PM
by Bhairabas
* Statue of Responsibility DoctorJ 561 7 05/15/06 11:29 PM
by Silversoul
* An interesting article about 'race'
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )
retread 11,603 158 10/08/04 06:17 PM
by retread
* Politically incorrect to note the race of the looters?
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
Swami 4,205 111 09/04/05 05:19 AM
by luvdemshrooms
* Kerry Favored Over Bush 47%-43% In Multi-Candidate Race fft2 1,065 11 08/19/04 08:03 PM
by Ed1

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil, ballsalsa
4,532 topic views. 0 members, 3 guests and 7 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.033 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 15 queries.