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Heitentinger
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Why are my flushes so little *DELETED* *DELETED*
#24566638 - 08/20/17 04:31 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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PlutoniumPancakes
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Heitentinger]
#24566645 - 08/20/17 04:38 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Holy shit my friend, yours are colossal compared to one of my thai buffalo mini trays lmao ......small??? Take a look at one of my recent trays:
How do you get them like this?
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ADARKERSHADOW
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Your flushes dont look that small. Although there appears to be metabolites on the mycelium, it's probably to wet. Are you doing agar? Genetics play a big role in pinset along with the micro-climate near the surface.
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Heitentinger
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: ketch]
#24566727 - 08/20/17 06:48 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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hmm Well I thought this was little, not the shrooms but the amount of them. if I compare with some pictures like this :
I just put quite a lot of Rye (sterilisation in a big bag) and spray them everyday with a brumisator. perlite is Under it to keep moist climate.
Actually these aren't métabolites, it's just the mycellia is very aggressive and makes some clouds on the top layer of the casing
And no It's Ban Hua Thanon spores, 4th generation of thai mushroom.
sorry for the approximativ English if Something isn't clear tell me.
Thank to all you
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Heitentinger]
#24566799 - 08/20/17 07:30 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is a brumisator? You probably don't need to spay them as much as you do, only when the top of the mycelium is dry with no tiny beads of water.
Your Fruiting chamber is not set up correctly. You need a grid pattern of holes 2inches apart. Search shotgun fruiting chamber
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Heitentinger]
#24566925 - 08/20/17 09:04 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heitentinger said: Hello !
My question is very simple, it's getting better and better but I can't reach the harvest that I can see on some pictures. I use Rye grain casing Tek, casing done with peat moss vermiculite and coco choir. The moist level is Ok.
So I have two questions, first, why even when it's wet Inside, the casing will be sucked from Inside by the shrooms and it looks as if it would dry out even when you can see the water drops on the top of the mycellia.
And second, how can you make that all the casing let mushroom grow and not only on some parts of It
Here are a few photo to explain it
Thank you all
See the fuzzy feet you got there. That indicates that there is a lack of fAe. Big mushrooms have plenty of fresh air.
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#24566940 - 08/20/17 09:17 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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For clarification, are you just casing rye or are you spawning the rye to a bulk substrate and then casing? Your sub appears very dry as there is a large gap all the way around between it and the pan. Could be part of the issue.
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Heitentinger
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#24566960 - 08/20/17 09:25 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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@Mycolorado
Yes this was part of my question. why are they drying out when the mycelia is already covered with tiny droplets of water.
As I said its colonised rye with coco choir and vermiculite and peat moss.
@wtfcrazymofo
What is fAe ??
so is there too much water or not enough ? and so mine have enough fresh air ?
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Heitentinger]
#24567174 - 08/20/17 11:04 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you mixing the rye with the peat and coir (spawned bulk substrate) or putting the rye in the pan and covering it with the peat/coir (cased grain)? FAE = Fresh Air Exchange. Honestly, I didn't think the fuzzy feet were all that bad. Lots of fuzzy growth at the base of the shroom is indicative of poor air exchange. If these are simply cased grain in a pan, I'd say they look decent.
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Heitentinger]
#24567177 - 08/20/17 11:05 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heitentinger said: @Mycolorado
Yes this was part of my question. why are they drying out when the mycelia is already covered with tiny droplets of water.
As I said its colonised rye with coco choir and vermiculite and peat moss.
@wtfcrazymofo
What is fAe ??
so is there too much water or not enough ? and so mine have enough fresh air ?
FAE=Fresh Air Exchange It's probably very poor you need to build a proper SGFC(Shot Gun Fruiting Chamber) to fix it. As far as moisture we really can't tell you besides if there is tiny droplets of water on the surface of the mycelium you're good, pools of water is bad.
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Heitentinger
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OK Thank you
Do you think it would be enough if I open the box twice a day and let all the air go out ?
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Heitentinger]
#24567288 - 08/20/17 12:01 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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U can crack it at a 45* degree angle but sgfc will give the passive air flow u want, its like the weel its been around forever cause it works.
Try using a sub like straw or feild aged manure if u cant find coir. You'll be able to make way more trays(3-4x) N the sub holds ALOT lot lot more water than your grains that your mushies will use to grow N size can be relative to you sub depth/size with how many fruits are going at once. My B is some1 already mentioned some this stuff just woke up.
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Heitentinger]
#24567349 - 08/20/17 12:36 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heitentinger said: hmm Well I thought this was little, not the shrooms but the amount of them. if I compare with some pictures like this :
People are far more likely to post photos of their very best grows, rather than average or shit ones.
You still have not answered if you are mixing the rye up with bulk substrate and casing, or just casing on top of the grains.
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Heitentinger
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: blackout]
#24568751 - 08/21/17 05:41 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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@Lemurlemur
Thanks for advise
@blackout
actually I don't really understand what a bulk substrate is. or the difference between bulking and casing
I take some lasagna bowl, then one of manure with verm (I made a translation mistake before I use manure and not peat moss) , then one layer of colonised rye, then one layer of coco-choir and verm.
put the bowls on humid perlite Inside the boxes
And thats it.
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Heitentinger]
#24569597 - 08/21/17 02:21 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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We wanna know if your mixing it all up before you case it basically.
By definition (im think) substrate is low nutritional organic material your mycilium can colonize.
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: LemurLemur]
#24569619 - 08/21/17 02:30 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bulking = manure, straw, coco coir, verm, etc. All mixed together with the rye spawn.
Casing = usually peat moss-based layer on top of the bulk material
Sounds to me like it is layered not mixed and then maybe cased...?
OP, your grow is pretty darn good. Keep at it and you'll get closer to the results you are interested in. Also, agar is amazing for getting consistent results, even pinsets, etc. using clones/isolates. Plenty of info on this topic on the site.
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: Primal Call]
#24569795 - 08/21/17 03:54 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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You would have way more success and bigger mushrooms if you mixed up all your bulk in the tub with all your spawn . Get rid of moisture rocks. Treat the substrate in the bin as one giant tray and away you go. Fan regularly and keep warm and moist. Bigger mushrooms and more of them with the addition of horse dung. None of that wimpy stuff with brown rice flour and vermiculite.
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Re: Why are my flushes so little [Re: kingkc]
#24571094 - 08/22/17 05:12 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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@ Kingkc
Thank you this is exactly the kind of answer I waited for.
have a nice day
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