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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: koods] 10
#24561504 - 08/17/17 09:20 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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These people, right and/or left, are exactly and precisely what is wrong with this country right now
Yes. Vociferous opposition to nazis is what is wrong with this county. Gimme a break.
What is wrong with country is your pathetic moral equivalency: take a side, because if You don't take a stand against nazis then you're part of the problem.
Ladies & gentlemen I present to you example 1A.
Anybody who disagrees with you is a "nazi". All you have is a tiny little pea brained playbook of labels to call people who don't see things exactly the way you do. You're a child who's disguised as an adult. That's what children do.
You wake up everyday consumed by political ideology. You're totally and utterly consumed by it. The whole point of your existence is us versus them. In your closed off little world you think you're making a difference but in reality you're just as divisive as the people you claim to be against.
It's sad and fucking pathetic that your life is defined by a stupid political affiliation, but I do find a lot of value in your existence from afar because you're a shining beacon beaming right at me showing me exactly who not to be. Because you have no idea how many times over the years I've inevitably come across yet another one of your never fucking ending politically slanted posts, which make up like 90% of your contribution to this site by the way, and I thought to myself, "jeez I'm glad I'm not THAT guy".
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Nifflerz] 5
#24561519 - 08/17/17 09:24 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
Anybody who disagrees with you is a "nazi". All you have is a tiny little pea brained playbook of labels to call people who don't see things exactly the way you do. You're a child who's disguised as an adult. That's what children do.
disagree with me until the cows come home, but once you march through the streets screaming "jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil" with Nazi flags in your hands, calling for ethnic cleansing then you become a Nazi in my eyes.
Why is this confusing to people?
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: yogabunny] 5
#24561563 - 08/17/17 09:49 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Antifa has been attacking people for years now for being; republican, trump supporters, wearing a red hat, standing near a republican, showing up, having a different opinion, etc. All these things and more make you a nazi now!
I'd post the 50+ videos I have saved of people being viciously attacked for no reason by Antifa mobs and far lefters, but everyone with their echo chamber agenda would either justify the violence or ignore it completely as is always the case.
Where the fuck did this labeling of everyone as Nazis come from? How come all of a sudden we have some massive nazi problem? Could it be that everyone is falsely labeling anyone who disagrees with them as a racist / nazi ? Could it be the incessant slandering of everyone who disagrees with you as a sexist, racist, fascist has actually pushed some center people to the alt-right, and emboldened the actual white supremacists? Antifa is only adding fuel to the fire.
Oh wait, that's right out of Antifa's Playbook.
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Shroomism] 4
#24561590 - 08/17/17 10:04 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I start labeling folks Nazis when they start marching in the streets screaming "jews won't replace us" "blood and soil" with Nazi flags in their hands while calling for ethnic cleansing.
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Shroomism
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: yogabunny] 2
#24561601 - 08/17/17 10:14 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread isn't about that. Everyone already agrees REAL nazis can fuck off. This thread was about all the violence on the left which those on the left love to completely ignore or justify with some twisted logic.
Was this guy a nazi?
How about this guy... another nazi right?
These guys?
This guy was clearly a nazi
This chick was obviously a nazi
All these people? Nazis!
This guy, total nazi
This guy, nazi.
Do you condemn this? Or did all these people get what they had coming to them.. damn nazis?
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: yogabunny]
#24561602 - 08/17/17 10:14 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Shroomism]
#24561605 - 08/17/17 10:15 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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How many people has Antifa killed?
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: yogabunny] 3
#24561608 - 08/17/17 10:19 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Death toll is all that matters? Are you fucking serious right now.
You are trying to rationalize violence against normal people for no reason, or because they have a different opinion or political view? This is ok?
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Shroomism] 1
#24561610 - 08/17/17 10:19 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you condemn this?
I condem it. I think Charlottesville was one sided. But the actions of the nazis there, and elsewhere, dont excuse or minimize leftest violence against the right or whites. One does not excuse the other.
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: DieCommie]
#24561613 - 08/17/17 10:23 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I never said it did. But this has been ongoing for years now and it is all connected. Antifa has been antagonizing and attacking people all along, it was only a matter of time before shit got out of control and someone died.
It's only going to get worse at this rate if something doesn't change. The left actually acknowledging and condemning all the violence coming from the far left would be a good start.
Maybe they have actually taken down a few actual neo nazis.. I'd say they probably have about a .5% success rate of the people they violently attack being ACTUAL fascists
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Shroomism] 2
#24561631 - 08/17/17 10:31 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll take that as none.
& no, in general I do not support that. As far as the events of last weekend, I definitely do support ALL who stood in opposition.
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Shroomism] 1
#24561633 - 08/17/17 10:35 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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God damn. You people can't make any point without the other side being like "oh but it's okay when your people do it." holy shit guys
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#24561635 - 08/17/17 10:36 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also last I read the Charlottesville thing killed one person. I'm pretty sure if you looked hard enough you could find liberal extremists somewhere that killed someone at some point.
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Shroomism
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: yogabunny] 2
#24561639 - 08/17/17 10:37 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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None in the mainstream media anyway. Leftists attacks have killed people before. A few people that have come close to dying from being attacked by Antifa. A bunch that were hospitalized. But that's cool right, as long as no one has died?
Give it more time. Antifa is already talking about bringing guns to protests instead of sticks and rocks. It's a dangerous game they are playing. People ARE going to die.
And they are still young. You have to give them a chance to achieve their dreams of converting the US to communism via force, then we can move into the totalitarian regime that will slaughter millions for "thought crimes"! Yay!
In before koods comes in to say right wing people have attacked people before so all the senseless violence is justified
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Shroomism] 5
#24561771 - 08/18/17 12:19 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Where the fuck did this labeling of everyone as Nazis come from? How come all of a sudden we have some massive nazi problem? Could it be that everyone is falsely labeling anyone who disagrees with them a nazi
Lol. Over the years I've seen you call women "feminazis" so many times. And now that there are literal nazis out there, boldly saluting and waving swastika flags, you have an issue with folks calling out nazis.
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Burke Dennings] 5
#24561775 - 08/18/17 12:26 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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No... If someone is actually a nazi then call a duck a duck. Those guys are such a small minority though it's a joke. There's no massive wave of nazis in the US. I'm specifically talking about the labeling of fucking everyone that disagrees with you as a nazi. Literally abusing the fuck out of the word. It's become common as fuck and it's retarded.
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Burke Dennings] 1
#24561780 - 08/18/17 12:35 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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This guy is a fascist nazi?
I only see one nazi in this video... the feminazi
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: ballsalsa]
#24561841 - 08/18/17 01:55 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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endogenous said: Violence is wrong whether the neo-nazis do it or the anarchists.
The left has alot less violent people in it than the right, but they need to stand up to violence whether it's from the right OR the left.
It weakens the argument against the alt-right to not condemn ALL violence.
This argument seems to rest on the premise that all violence is equally wrong. I think most reasonable people would disagree with that.
I think that reasonable people would be able to see that it's hypocricy to condemn violence when it's on the other side, but to not condemn it when it's on your own.
People who are LOOKING for violence should be condemned - no matter whose side they're on. They are only an argument that justifies the other side.
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: endogenous] 2
#24561856 - 08/18/17 02:17 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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endogenous said: Violence is wrong whether the neo-nazis do it or the anarchists.
The left has alot less violent people in it than the right, but they need to stand up to violence whether it's from the right OR the left.
It weakens the argument against the alt-right to not condemn ALL violence.
Aren't conservatives always claiming that the left are a bunch of pacifist pussies?
Obviously if that's the case the left was acting in self defense.
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Re: The Left Needs To Condemn Violence On the Left Also [Re: Shroomism]
#24561862 - 08/18/17 02:23 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: This thread isn't about that. Everyone already agrees REAL nazis can fuck off. This thread was about all the violence on the left which those on the left love to completely ignore or justify with some twisted logic.
Some people have also used this same logic to denounce the lefts who were punching/defending themselves against the actual Nazis in Charlottesville.
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