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Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms * 4
    #24557378 - 08/16/17 06:26 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms
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Paul Lee Corbett of Washington, 63, is a man of great adventure with a deep love for nature. Between 1968 and 1976, he lived, studied, and traveled throughout the Pacific Northwest, the Rocky Mountains, and Alaskan regions. He has spent most of his life in Alaska, where he supported himself and his family by utilizing the environment around them. He set gill nets and long lines for fish, dug clams, hunted his meat, grew vegetables, and foraged. His adventures include traveling in 16-foot skiffs on the open waters of the Pacific Ocean and trekking 1,600-mile round-trips between Alaska and British Columbia. “I loved nature and the secure peace of being in it,” he says.

While mastering his external terrains, Corbett simultaneously built a strong relationship with his internal landscape with the use of entheogenic drugs, such as cannabis, LSD, and psilocybin-containing mushrooms. Corbett knows quite a bit, in fact, about psilocybin mushrooms—and not just from eating them. He’s a skilled forager with knowledge of the many different species of psychedelic mushrooms—of which there are hundreds, belonging to about a dozen different genera.

He credits LSD in particular with having “changed [his] mind in every direction” and relieved him of his heroin addiction. But the lasting effects were even more profound. “I no longer felt comfortable in this society, the United States, or really any society,” he says. After his experiences with drugs, he left the U.S., traveling northward before arriving in Alaska, beginning his life in remote destinations.

Currently, Corbett is facing a potential prison sentence of five years for possession of psilocybin mushrooms. In November 2016, he was arrested for picking wild mushrooms at Cape Disappointment Park in Washington state. He glimpsed what he believed to be a yet unidentified species of psilocybin mushroom, picking specimens of it for later analysis. Corbett maintains his innocence, arguing he committed no crime and injured no one. He was only exercising his natural curiosity, he says.

He first picked wild psilocybin mushrooms outside Seattle in 1972. “That kinda opened my eyes to the early information about season and location, so I became curious about that,” he tells me. “Eventually I found other types of psilocybe. Once you find the mushroom, you learn about the other mushrooms that grow with it, what kind of trees there are, what kind of medium they grow in, whether it’s grass or bark. The mushrooms educate you about the rest of the forest and the environment, too.”

Corbett was hiking in Cape Disappointment Park when he spotted large red mushrooms in a wood chip pile, which were to his knowledge, unidentified. A sign posted nearby read: NO MUSHROOM PICKING: VIOLATORS SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL CITATION. Corbett ignored it, elated by his discovery. “Everyone that goes there thinks those mushrooms are Psilocybe azurescens, but they’re not. They’re more clean feeling like the ‘liberty cap’ [Psilocybe semilanceata], and a very, very beautiful mushroom.” Close by, in the grass, he spotted true azurescens. More of the mystery mushrooms grew by the spot where Corbett had parked his truck.

The odd mushrooms, Corbett believes, were a sub-species—if not an entirely different species—of azurescens. He picked 10 specimens from the woodchip pile, and put them in a plastic bag along with 10 of the classic azurescens. “I put them together because they were clearly different, with no mistake whatsoever. They don’t look anything alike.” After storing the bag in his truck, Corbett put ten more mushrooms in his pocket before he heard a cry: “Police! Hold it right there!” A park ranger darted out of the brush with a gun pointed at Corbett’s face.

The ranger felt in Corbett’s pocket for the mushrooms, then handcuffed him. Another park ranger soon arrived. Corbett calmly revealed where his other mushrooms were stored, and the officials searched his truck. He was arrested and taken to the local jail. After the police called a judge, they were advised to release Corbett on his own recognizance. He hitchhiked back to the Washington coast to find his partner, Joyce, whom he has never left alone for more than two hours due to her physical ailments.

After his arraignment, Corbett was charged with felony possession of a controlled substance, punishable in Washington by up to five years in prison and $10,000 in fines. He was offered a plea deal of one year of felony probation with 15 days in jail, but he immediately turned it down. “Joyce uses [medical] cannabis to cut down a quarter of her narcotic pain medication,” he explains, “but on probation she couldn’t even be in the same place I’m in.”

“Plus,” he adds (with a hint of annoyance), “I didn’t commit a crime. There’s no injured party involved in any of this, only Joyce and myself. In fact, over my time of picking mushrooms, I’ve probably saved a couple hundred people who were really stupid.” Not all mushroom species are equally safe for consumption, he states. Through the knowledge he has gained and shared over a lifetime of foraging, he has prevented his pupils from suffering potentially fatal side effects.

Corbett has been to court several times since the incident, but the case has not yet been settled. Twenty-four hours before one of his court dates, he was ordered to leave his wife in the hospital on risk of contempt of court—despite her doctor’s pleas to the contrary—to drive six hours from Fort Townshend, his residency, to attend his hearing.

Corbett has been frustrated by what he considers insufficient or even counterproductive advice by his lawyers, who have urged him to plead guilty. They have refused to discuss anything relating to mushrooms or entheogens, and hope Corbett will settle for the plea deal and probation. But Corbett is determined to challenge the law and prove his innocence.

He has since fired his attorneys and he hopes to hire one who will best represent him and his unique situation. He has opened a crowdfunding campaign to fund his legal expenses and his partner’s medical expenses.

Since his arrest, Corbett and Joyce have been traveling around Washington, following a recent hospitalization and surgery that Joyce underwent. He states that the worst likely consequence of his conviction would be leaving behind his frail partner. “We’re living in a camper now—which is a nice one—but she’s not capable of doing that on her own.” They are both counting on disability insurance, with no money to pay rent.

Corbett heaves a heavy sigh as he recounts his tale to me. “This has got to end. People need to be educated. My hope is to educate the whole courtroom. It’s a mystery to all of us why these things are illegal. And it’s a mystery to me why the word ‘liberty’ doesn’t apply to my curiosity and my entheogenic use.”

Corbett is uncertain about his own fate, but he hasn’t lost faith for his younger peers. “I’m hoping that education with these entheogenic substances will help us change the world, because I’m worried about it. I’m hoping this new movement now can change things. So we look at everything—each other and this whole earth—in a way that is a little more caring and a little more on the side of being a good steward.

“I don’t think people really get to know [the mushrooms] and where they live. They live in beautiful places, amazing places. And then again they also follow us around everywhere we go. They want to be with us, and they want to teach us.”

Corbett will return to trial in November 2017, after two more hearings scheduled in the fall.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Ythan] * 4
    #24557494 - 08/16/17 07:30 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Just seems so hilarious a policeman jumping out of a bush with a gun "you picked a mushroom".

Absolutely bizarre behaviour by the human species.

Almost symbolic of the power brokers who point a nuke at the planet.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: LightRay] * 2
    #24557588 - 08/16/17 08:13 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Just seems so hilarious a policeman jumping out of a bush with a gun "you picked a mushroom".

Absolutely bizarre behaviour by the human species.





Very common in the place he was at.  If you go there in November you will see lots of hippies walking through the dune grasses, all trying to pretend they are not looking for mushrooms.  Some carry binoculars and bird books, others walk dogs and some carry surfboards.    On the top of the ridges you will see rangers with binoculars, looking for hippies.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #24557723 - 08/16/17 09:28 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I've senn this exact thing happen to several people in Kirkland and Redmond.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 5
    #24557740 - 08/16/17 09:40 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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LightRay said:
Just seems so hilarious a policeman jumping out of a bush with a gun "you picked a mushroom".

Absolutely bizarre behaviour by the human species.





Very common in the place he was at.  If you go there in November you will see lots of hippies walking through the dune grasses, all trying to pretend they are not looking for mushrooms.  Some carry binoculars and bird books, others walk dogs and some carry surfboards.    On the top of the ridges you will see rangers with binoculars, looking for hippies.



What a joke. So we have the law acting as criminals. And "criminals" causing no victim. The law is making victims. So the worst part about magic mushrooms is being caught with them.

Stop! this part of nature is illegal.

I wonder how diluded you have to be to be a park ranger and actually  enforce that shit. Especially against an old man.

Cape disappoinment. Because your own country will disappoint you.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #24557786 - 08/16/17 10:06 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, that does it. We must put mother nature behind bars for mass drug manufacturing. I've had enough of this shit.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #24557858 - 08/16/17 10:40 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

What a shame, that dude sounds so cool. There aren't many free spirits like him anymore.
You really would think the rangers would have something better to do, such as protecting the forest and its inhabitants. With that in mind, if they really wanted to punish him, they should make him do community service working in the park rather than locking him up. It would be different if he was picking huge amounts and selling it. It's illegal to do that even with items that aren't illegal.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: JizzMasterZero] * 2
    #24557955 - 08/16/17 11:20 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

The Mid Atlantic / Northeast corridor has been largely spared this type of governmental oversight. I did hear of people getting busted by rangers in WVa. hunting for ovoids. This is precisely why I am against people posting precise locations for their finds here and on mushroom observer.

Just this spring someone posted the exact state park that I forage in both here and in MO. The problem being that there are only 1 or 2 parking areas where the rangers have to sit in this park. There is no parking anywhere else in the parks. I fear that with the rise in popularity of these entheogens, people are going to start to get arrested and there will be more scenarios like the op. Another thing that pisses me off is that it took me years to find my first ovoids, now this guy points the spot out to anyone who can read.I believe that telling the county of your finds should be sufficient.

I think I will soon start cultivating my own on my own property in outside beds with stem butts from the wild for my  and a few friends use. The inevitable is coming.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #24558062 - 08/16/17 12:17 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

^^^ Yeah, no need to help out the authorities so they can arrest us! I'm sure they would even start searching "suspicious" people that might not even be looking for mushrooms, but just wanted to smoke a bowl out in nature.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: JizzMasterZero] * 2
    #24558113 - 08/16/17 12:41 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Well he's going to lose. He broke the law. The only thing he can do is try to take it to supreme court to change the laws.


Which probably won't happen.
It would be in the best interest of himself and his wife to take the plea deal.


Other than us, people that care about mushrooms and drug use being something left up to an individual, almost no one will hear about his story.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #24558454 - 08/16/17 03:20 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

if they are freshly picked, they are not illegal until dried, just say they are for later identification.
unless they use his statements about psychaelic against him, he will probably get penalty for illegal taking from state-park.

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Corbett was hiking in Cape Disappointment Park when he spotted large red mushrooms in a wood chip pile, which were to his knowledge, unidentified. A sign posted nearby read: NO MUSHROOM PICKING: VIOLATORS SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL CITATION. Corbett ignored it, elated by his discovery. “Everyone that goes there thinks those mushrooms are Psilocybe azurescens, but they’re not. They’re more clean feeling like the ‘liberty cap’ [Psilocybe semilanceata], and a very, very beautiful mushroom.” Close by, in the grass, he spotted true azurescens. More of the mystery mushrooms grew by the spot where Corbett had parked his truck.



(a new red-cap woodloving species, that sounds pretty cool)


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: ellomello] * 1
    #24558531 - 08/16/17 03:53 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

That's true, and that's a much lesser sentence. Hopefully his lawyers will help him push it... Though he sounds like the sort that won't be able to keep his mouth shut for it.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #24559024 - 08/16/17 07:54 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

That is not true, possession of anything containing psilocybin is illegal in every state and on a federal level. The only reason you people think its not illegal is because some granny gets caught growing some poppies and the prosecution dismisses the charges, if you're a hippie though that shit just ain't going to happen, they know you were purposefully breaking the law.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: FreeTheSoul] * 1
    #24559205 - 08/16/17 09:25 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

No i really think if they are fresh and (if you don't say they're psychedelic) but for later identification, that isn't illegal. .
..As long as you have permission to be foraging, and NOT next to a big sign that says 'NO MUSHROOM PICKING'


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: ellomello] * 1
    #24559235 - 08/16/17 09:41 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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No i really think if they are fresh and (if you don't say they're psychedelic) but for later identification, that isn't illegal. .
..As long as you have permission to be foraging, and NOT next to a big sign that says 'NO MUSHROOM PICKING'



Nope you are still in possession, just like if you drive someone elses car if it has kilos of coke in the trunk you are going to be charged with possession even though its not your car, and not your kilos, the driver is the one who posses the objects in the car, also there's a thing called constructive possession where you can be in a place and get charged for whats in the place as well.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Ythan] * 1
    #24559432 - 08/16/17 11:37 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

the "justice" system here in washington state is a joke that has no humor at all, whatsoever.  ITs fucking ridiculous. 


I always said when I lose my mind and go batcrap crazy im taking the heavy machineries and my first stop will be the court house.  I would never wanna hurt anybody, just make a statement.


there are more police per capita here in WA than in any other state in the US.  this state has way too much money.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: sprinkles] * 1
    #24559450 - 08/16/17 11:50 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Thoughts to you Paul.
Yours is a good fight and one that is appreciated by me.

It is only through people making brave and open stances like this that acceptance and truth can come about.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #24559775 - 08/17/17 07:36 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

You may be right pineninja, but I don't think he's going to be the right guy to get the message across.
If he did this all purely to make a statement about the ridiculous state of hallucinogenics prosecution, then maybe.
But if you consider that he blatantly went out of his way to go there and knowingly broke the law, in spite of being responsible for his wife's health at the cost of no longer being able to now help her - that looks reckless.

Like Cookie said, he's the kinda guy who probably can't keep his mouth shut.

As soon as he starts saying stuff like, "...then again they also follow us around everywhere we go. They want to be with us, and they want to teach us", the same people who already hate and fear psychedelics are going to get further inflamed. The people who don't care, still won't care and will probably just label him a hippie.

People just don't know that it's worth defending if they never try it. Otherwise, what benefit does the average joe think mushrooms have? There's some positive research getting light at the moment that psychedelics can be useful for combating addiction to drugs that are actually dangerous and has helped some people with depression and anxiety. Unfortunately there's a whole lot more negative media about psychedelics causing erratic behavior, bad trips, psychosis and disruptive thinking like “I no longer felt comfortable in this society, the United States, or really any society,”.

In the government's eyes that's a very bad thing. He's happy to subsist? That's not economically productive.

Psychedelics have the same bad wrap that weed had once and while weed has had a massive following, mushrooms do not.... yet.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Wiiiiilson] * 1
    #24560251 - 08/17/17 11:37 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

A pretty sad story I suppose but he did ignore the sign. They apparently actually cared enough to enforce it more than regular rec or med pot in California (which I'm told cops are mostly lax about it and focus on other stuff, could be wrong).

Sad part is, no matter how much anyone complains on this website the laws aren't going to change soon because of that.

They say the war is already over but the government won't admit it for another ten or twenty years. It's like, right around the corner.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Blabble40] * 2
    #24560572 - 08/17/17 02:14 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I feel bad for this guy.


But the average hippie can rot in jail for all i care. If they want mushrooms so bad they should grow them in a home instead of being a cheap dirty stinky hippy and picking them when you know you are not supposed to do that. Hippies just really piss me off...they wont shower yet they always have the answers to everything...they are the most lazy people on the planet as well. You ever see a hippy giving away any money to a good cause? Nope...they are like bums...any money goes to drugs.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 3
    #24560793 - 08/17/17 03:39 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Its should not be a crime to pick and consume these gifts.

You should never have been able to look down on this "hippie".

Who do you think YOU are.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #24560939 - 08/17/17 04:55 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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I feel bad for this guy.


But the average hippie can rot in jail for all i care. If they want mushrooms so bad they should grow them in a home instead of being a cheap dirty stinky hippy and picking them when you know you are not supposed to do that. Hippies just really piss me off...they wont shower yet they always have the answers to everything...they are the most lazy people on the planet as well. You ever see a hippy giving away any money to a good cause? Nope...they are like bums...any money goes to drugs.





Bill O' you know hippi is just a label, ..How many people would label you a hippi just for associating with mushrooms and us..
That said, i have met to many bums and thugs giving the hippis a bad name. They are the ones who destroyed the movement.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: ellomello]
    #24561916 - 08/18/17 04:39 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Ridiculous. Dude is 63. Its just a couple of *wild* freshies. Im pretty sure in florida and maybe even upstate NY that would not be a crime (maybe im wrong, heard if its already growing in Florida and fresh its fine, only dry is considered a "drug"?)


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: ellomello]
    #24562018 - 08/18/17 07:07 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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ellomello said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:
I feel bad for this guy.


But the average hippie can rot in jail for all i care. If they want mushrooms so bad they should grow them in a home instead of being a cheap dirty stinky hippy and picking them when you know you are not supposed to do that. Hippies just really piss me off...they wont shower yet they always have the answers to everything...they are the most lazy people on the planet as well. You ever see a hippy giving away any money to a good cause? Nope...they are like bums...any money goes to drugs.





Bill O' you know hippi is just a label, ..How many people would label you a hippi just for associating with mushrooms and us..
That said, i have met to many bums and thugs giving the hippis a bad name. They are the ones who destroyed the movement.



You have it backwards. Hippies were always shitty but there were some jaded, oblivious people who gleaned some kind of positive associatition with these greasy homeless drug addicted thieves. Hippies are traditionally shit. A lot of OG hippies were hardcore racists and those little gathered communities were often some scary militant shit.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #24562102 - 08/18/17 08:07 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Nope you're wrong again :smile:


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: ellomello] * 1
    #24562125 - 08/18/17 08:18 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

This story should inspire us to flood the country with dry cubensis by the truckloads.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Errl_Shmirl] * 1
    #24562306 - 08/18/17 09:40 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
I feel bad for this guy.


But the average hippie can rot in jail for all i care. If they want mushrooms so bad they should grow them in a home instead of being a cheap dirty stinky hippy and picking them when you know you are not supposed to do that. Hippies just really piss me off...they wont shower yet they always have the answers to everything...they are the most lazy people on the planet as well. You ever see a hippy giving away any money to a good cause? Nope...they are like bums...any money goes to drugs.




lmao dude wtf, are you trolling? the hell man
coming from the heroin addict... nice man. I would rather be a hippie looking for mushrooms than a junkie slammin dope 3 times a day. ffs man
literally *ALL* of your money goes to dope, and you absolutely would not even consider "donating" to shit, because you're a fucking junkie. sounds like you got some opi-rage goin. or is it the ego-boost from all the cocaine? go back to the psych ward m8


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX]
    #24562575 - 08/18/17 11:34 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

point/ counterpoint.....I have to side with XX on this one Bill, even though I like you...I hope you're  off of the dope...I certainly know that junkies don't give to anything if it isn't gonna get them a hit back. Whereby, Past hippies have started businesses like Microsoft or Apple and musicians have written some of the best music ever released...can't really think of many things that down and out junkies have contributed.:shrug:...maybe grunge? but they're mostly dead now from being a down and out junkie.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24562665 - 08/18/17 12:08 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I've never heard about racist militant hippies..but I do agree that hippies are not much different than bums.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Eminence]
    #24562766 - 08/18/17 12:57 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

They tend to be happier bums.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24562771 - 08/18/17 12:58 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
I feel bad for this guy.


But the average hippie can rot in jail for all i care. If they want mushrooms so bad they should grow them in a home instead of being a cheap dirty stinky hippy and picking them when you know you are not supposed to do that. Hippies just really piss me off...they wont shower yet they always have the answers to everything...they are the most lazy people on the planet as well. You ever see a hippy giving away any money to a good cause? Nope...they are like bums...any money goes to drugs.




Saying anyone should rot in jail is pretty low man... I hate a lot of hippies too but we already have enough people in jail...

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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #24563927 - 08/18/17 08:41 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Gotta do your due diligence, that area is rife with jackboots
That state is hell a liberal but not about shrooms,ride the ferry's to the islands in the fall,like 1 cop per island


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    #24564372 - 08/19/17 04:38 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid: That place is hot. Anybody visiting the park in the worst time weather wise of the year is asking to be shook down. Just a matter of time.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: ellomello]
    #24565342 - 08/19/17 02:39 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Nope you're wrong again :smile:



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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #24566633 - 08/20/17 04:28 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

So this guy says hippies have always been shitty? Interchangeable with scumbag bums?

Someone doesnt know their subcultures


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #24566664 - 08/20/17 05:10 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
I feel bad for this guy.


But the average hippie can rot in jail for all i care. If they want mushrooms so bad they should grow them in a home instead of being a cheap dirty stinky hippy and picking them when you know you are not supposed to do that. Hippies just really piss me off...they wont shower yet they always have the answers to everything...they are the most lazy people on the planet as well. You ever see a hippy giving away any money to a good cause? Nope...they are like bums...any money goes to drugs.






I love it when people with mental disorders - especially those who have been admitted into psych wards numerous times (bill)  have the audacity to judge others. 



Leave the judging to Jesus.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Fractal420]
    #24566749 - 08/20/17 07:05 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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So this guy says hippies have always been shitty? Interchangeable with scumbag bums?

Someone doesnt know their subcultures



You don't get to decide how things are just because you identify with something. Indeed, someone doesn't know. That would be you, and the other guy. Sit back and learn something, because modern hippies are based off of a bunch of racist lowlives :cookiemonster:

But it's ok because someone said "love" a few times and acted all wispy pseudo-philosophical while they rubbed on some crystals and listened to a band who thought they were retarded for going into homeless drug addiction to follow them around creepily

:loldongs:


You know what people were, back in the inception of hippiedom? Racist. You think that changes because people's ideology became about "love." Or do you get to decide what people's opinions are on everything. Read up on Rainbow gatherings, if you want a glimpse of true hippie culture.

:cookiemonster::cookiemonster:



What hippie culture is, is "let me do whatever the fuck I want." Not LSD, or love, or whatever the hell. It's people living outside society and law based on their own selfish desires. Welcome, to hippiedom.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: sprinkles]
    #24566754 - 08/20/17 07:06 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
I feel bad for this guy.


But the average hippie can rot in jail for all i care. If they want mushrooms so bad they should grow them in a home instead of being a cheap dirty stinky hippy and picking them when you know you are not supposed to do that. Hippies just really piss me off...they wont shower yet they always have the answers to everything...they are the most lazy people on the planet as well. You ever see a hippy giving away any money to a good cause? Nope...they are like bums...any money goes to drugs.






I love it when people with mental disorders - especially those who have been admitted into psych wards numerous times (bill)  have the audacity to judge others. 



Leave the judging to Jesus.



That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. You're preaching about judgement while you're judging him and telling he has no right to opinion. May as well just tell him to die because you disagree with his experiences, since his existence is so invalid to you.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #24566875 - 08/20/17 08:29 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

that sounds like something someone who has been institutionalized would say.   



and I couldnt have said it better myself.  thanks!


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: sprinkles]
    #24566908 - 08/20/17 08:53 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Damn hippies! Cut your hair!

I thought it was all about the drugs - but I really dont think we had true hippies in Aus. Given that everyone was pretty racist in the 60s and 70s (Aboriginals were only just given the right to vote in 1962...) I think it would be hard to tease away what level of racism is exclusive to hippies versus the baseline level of racism at the time.

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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24567589 - 08/20/17 02:35 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Just seems so hilarious a policeman jumping out of a bush with a gun "you picked a mushroom".

Absolutely bizarre behaviour by the human species.




  Some carry binoculars and bird books, others walk dogs and some carry surfboards.    On the top of the ridges you will see rangers with binoculars, looking for hippies.





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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
    #24568727 - 08/21/17 04:53 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
I feel bad for this guy.


But the average hippie can rot in jail for all i care. If they want mushrooms so bad they should grow them in a home instead of being a cheap dirty stinky hippy and picking them when you know you are not supposed to do that. Hippies just really piss me off...they wont shower yet they always have the answers to everything...they are the most lazy people on the planet as well. You ever see a hippy giving away any money to a good cause? Nope...they are like bums...any money goes to drugs.



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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: morrowasted]
    #24568766 - 08/21/17 06:07 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

That's terrible. AFOAF recalls being in the same park in November 16 and not running into any park rangers hiding in the bushes.  I guess the rumors are true!  stay safe out there folks. 
He probably fucked up picking by a no picking sign though, or putting them in a bag.


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    #24569228 - 08/21/17 11:28 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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That's terrible. AFOAF recalls being in the same park in November 16 and not running into any park rangers hiding in the bushes.  I guess the rumors are true!  stay safe out there folks. 
He probably fucked up picking by a no picking sign though, or putting them in a bag.




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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #24571007 - 08/22/17 03:03 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
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Fractal420 said:
So this guy says hippies have always been shitty? Interchangeable with scumbag bums?

Someone doesnt know their subcultures



You don't get to decide how things are just because you identify with something. Indeed, someone doesn't know. That would be you, and the other guy. Sit back and learn something, because modern hippies are based off of a bunch of racist lowlives :cookiemonster:

But it's ok because someone said "love" a few times and acted all wispy pseudo-philosophical while they rubbed on some crystals and listened to a band who thought they were retarded for going into homeless drug addiction to follow them around creepily

:loldongs:

You know what people were, back in the inception of hippiedom? Racist. You think that changes because people's ideology became about "love." Or do you get to decide what people's opinions are on everything. Read up on Rainbow gatherings, if you want a glimpse of true hippie culture.

:cookiemonster::cookiemonster:



What hippie culture is, is "let me do whatever the fuck I want." Not LSD, or love, or whatever the hell. It's people living outside society and law based on their own selfish desires. Welcome, to hippiedom.




Heres what i wonder: where do you even get this idea? That hippies stem from racism? Or maybe from bums on LSD. Well, you said it has nothing to do with drugs or love. So, there must be some source for this info.

Its a good question, what IS the basis for what we know these days as a "hippie"? I dont mean a new age 2012-2017  sort of thing, but the way we look at real hippies. To me it always seems like its pre-dated by beat era, maybe even coincides. Also it depends on what you consider a hippie to be.

For example, i totally consider Hunter S. Thompson to be a hippie. That said he loved guns, violence intrigued him, and he didnt believe it was all about love. So really i dont think its a cookie cutout that you have to fit (maybe these days, but thats not a true hippie, maybe fad-hippies). Sometimes you see hipsters trying to be hippies, sometimes you meet people who dont use the internet and just download via psilocybin

Also, im a member of a rainbow gathering group.

"Rainbow Gatherings are temporary loosely knit communities of people who congregate annually in remote forests around the world for one or more weeks at a time to enact a supposedly shared ideology of peace, harmony, freedom, and respect." - google


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Ythan] * 2
    #24797050 - 11/21/17 12:44 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I literally ran into this dude on the Oregon coast this last weekend. How fucking crazy. He was obviously hunting with a group of like 4 people, picking amanita and others and one marked a few azures with a yerba mate can. I picked em lol. He was misleading us telling us to check another spot, which i dont blame, no hunter gives off spots lol. His hunting style was blatant af.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: loco801]
    #24803428 - 11/24/17 06:39 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Thats shitty. Its not like its *his* spot. What is this manifest destiny?

How bout "try some of these azures i found, just take a few, i always come back here"

He prolly knows plenty of patches.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Fractal420]
    #24804902 - 11/25/17 01:45 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

What happens, if it gets legalized, while you are still sitting in jail, for a drug offense.

Do they finish their sentences, or do they get a break?


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: Ythan]
    #24804929 - 11/25/17 02:52 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

sorry, but this sounds like a dystopia/adden story to me.  the story reeks the smell of manipulation



im in trouble too, only much bigger trouble.  I need donations.  I can promise I wont share and it will all go to me.  and i wont go pick up any more mentally defective people worse off than I am.


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    #24813826 - 11/29/17 08:14 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

When the Beatles went to San Fransisco, the were mad, because they expected the hippies, there, to be motivated, "beautiful people," who dressed-up and founded indie venues -- not like burnt-out criminals. 

I have personally see the bad kind, in WA.

The redneck types were hyper-aggressive, in hippy towns, and at war with them.

People seem to be able to make encampments, well outside of civilization, but I no longer believe it's a free country. The freedoms are like when someone earns privileges in a prison.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #24817381 - 11/30/17 05:38 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

My opinion is it's more about disrespecting and trashing the park. People come from all over because the area has significant US history and the state park showcases this through exhibits and displays. nobody wants to be amongst the throngs of youngsters crawling through the grass tearing up the landscaping and leaving trash in there wake. The park rangers/police are sworn to protect visitors and the history alike. Not saying it's cool just my  :2cents:


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #24818009 - 11/30/17 10:31 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Some people see vandalism and other anti social behavior as a political statement. They're using some label as an excuse to act out their criminal energies.

I think, some cowboy, doing this to a polite and attentive person, is no better than the subversive.



In WA, they were treating these people like unwanted tourists or gypsies.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: durian_2008]
    #24818301 - 12/01/17 05:34 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Shouldnt be such a big deal if youre a professional mushroom hunter. In America seems like mushroom hunting is inherently suspicious or something. In europe that is not the case, where my relatives are from anyway. Mushroom picking has zero link to drug use, even if psilocybes grow.

When coming across amanita muscaria, was told by a family friend (a medical doctor btw) "no no theyre not poisonous, theyll just make you delirious. we used to cook them back home"

Oregon has some great mushrooms in general from what ive read, i understand that the park rangers would not want the park trashed but those guys arent gonna miss any psilos growing. Another article just came out saying people in oregon are trying to legalize psilo...

So, you can get actually arrested in oregon for picking a fresh cube?

Seems super draconian. The local cops around me would only care if its Not coming from a forest and isnt fresh. And park rangers prolly eat cubes themselves. Def not gonna bother you about a wild mushroom. But if youre smoking bud, this is not like california :/

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    #24818587 - 12/01/17 09:26 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Ive never been bothered in northern wa, even while off trail squating down looking at mushrooms andbike cops roll by.


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    #24818598 - 12/01/17 09:33 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Do you look the right way or the wrong way?


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    #24820341 - 12/01/17 11:38 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Right or wrong, I look in the direction of the thing i"m trying to see.


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    #24820987 - 12/02/17 10:38 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

You're trying not to see my point.

While you were being ignored or tolerated, were you dressed in such a way as to trigger redneck, social prejudices.


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Re: Washington Man Facing Prison After Foraging for Wild Mushrooms [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #24820990 - 12/02/17 10:40 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Dress for the slide not the ride applies to finding drugs in the wild too imo.

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    #24821034 - 12/02/17 11:04 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

:cigar: My looks are very dominant, just by an accident of genetics, and, while I am thinking of Smedley P. Butler, they are admitting things to me that they shouldn't say.

Nothing beyond the imagination of any literate person. 


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    #24821636 - 12/02/17 03:39 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Oh i see, my bad.

No i was just going about my actions in a normal fashion, not acting suspicious and meeting there eyes head on with nothing to hide. I was dressed in dirty ish
cloths but had the just off work appearence.


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    #24822867 - 12/03/17 01:44 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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What happens, if it gets legalized, while you are still sitting in jail, for a drug offense.

Do they finish their sentences, or do they get a break?





Depends on how the legalization legislation is written.  Some proposals set free prior offenders or even clean their records, while other bills don't mention anything about those already caught, which means that those who are locked up are out of luck.

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How is the general attitude in that area?  I have never been there.  Are the rangers kind of just doing their job (to be the asshole basically) because of incidents.  Or are they like so hateful of anyone that likes mushrooms to go as far as to plant them on you or go through extreme long efforts to make you guilty of something?  I've always wanted to go there but instead of trying to do some ninja shit, just sort of go there and tell the rangers with a straight face that I came all the way there to take pics?  One could always just take a walking stick and smear spores all over it or some other way of propagating them to your backyard so easily that I don't see it worth the risk collecting shrooms.  But really I just want to see them in natural habitat.  Like on a scale of 1-10 how likely is it that if I asked the rangers to hold the camera for me, would I wind up in a police car?





If you don't pick them, it'd be very hard for them to do anything to you legally.  When I take mushroom photos I move a few of them so they are set up in front of the others, so all of the features are visible in one photo.  That's how you make a photo that can be used in a field guide.  Moving mushrooms would be possession, briefly.

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Do you look the right way or the wrong way?




If you are going to go out and do crimes, it's always smart to dress in business casual.


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    #24823211 - 12/03/17 08:46 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you look the right way or the wrong way?



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If you are going to go out and do crimes, it's always smart to dress in business casual.



Or, be affiliated with highschool sports, or other, cheesy, hometown, civic venue. The wolves in sheep's clothing.


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