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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24569559 - 08/21/17 02:04 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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We make nonsequiturs punishable by death.





I may be missing something...example of nonsequiturs?


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: DieCommie]
    #24569582 - 08/21/17 02:15 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Equal opportunity can never really come though.  Not unless we clone people…  Otherwise, some people are born more capable than others.  Now way around it.



Again, we're talking about equal opportunity rather than equal outcome.

If a college accepts 20% of the applicants from Beverly Hills High, then they should accept 20% of the applicants from Compton High.  Equal opportunity.

If either one ends up doing better than the other, then so be it, I'm not arguing for equal outcomes.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24569590 - 08/21/17 02:19 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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DieCommie said:
Equal opportunity can never really come though.  Not unless we clone people…  Otherwise, some people are born more capable than others.  Now way around it.



Again, we're talking about equal opportunity rather than equal outcome.

If a college accepts 20% of the applicants from Beverly Hills High, then they should accept 20% of the applicants from Compton High.  Equal opportunity.

If one ends up doing better than the other, then so be it, I'm not arguing for equal outcomes.




But then that's not "equal opportunity" anymore, that's preferential treatment based on some arbitrary factor.

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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman]
    #24569612 - 08/21/17 02:26 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

create a baseline standard for acceptance and randomize applicants who meet the standard.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman] * 1
    #24569638 - 08/21/17 02:38 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Diecommie suggested two that would be helpful:  Federal education funding to equalize education spending per student and universal healthcare.  It would be at the taxpayers' expense, of course.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Enlil]
    #24569693 - 08/21/17 03:08 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #24569695 - 08/21/17 03:09 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Diecommie suggested two that would be helpful:  Federal education funding to equalize education spending per student and universal healthcare.  It would be at the taxpayers' expense, of course.




I also agree that would help, and I believe in time we'll get a return on the amount spent.

I know why Ocare premiums have gone up, it's simple, people were hella sick and needed a lot of care, surgeries etcs. Those folks still need Ocare because private insurance won't touch them. Drugs are expensive, hospital stays, surgery...
I believe in time with better education we'll see a very positive change

And you'll have better health care, where folks are getting regular check ups


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: ballsalsa]
    #24569742 - 08/21/17 03:29 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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create a baseline standard for acceptance and randomize applicants who meet the standard.




So basically what we do today.

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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman]
    #24569754 - 08/21/17 03:34 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

not even close


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: starfire_xes]
    #24571761 - 08/22/17 12:33 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes so I don't have to post much.  I am studying, my first 2 classes I already know the material.  SO I ONE term and it will be skate.

ANd thank you about my health.  In fact, in lost 60 pounds, and girls say i look good now.




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But I still lost my mojo.





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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24572701 - 08/22/17 07:19 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/18/chicago-vandals-burn-century-old-bust-abraham-lincoln/

acid attacks on Lincoln bust




The right strikes back. I guess both sides don't like statues.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: koods]
    #24572712 - 08/22/17 07:23 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Bracing myself for when the left busts out torches and threatens genocide for someone defacing Lincoln statue.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24572770 - 08/22/17 07:40 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

They'll bust out drums and threaten a circle


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman] * 1
    #24572779 - 08/22/17 07:41 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Equal opportunity can never really come though.  Not unless we clone people…  Otherwise, some people are born more capable than others.  Now way around it.



Again, we're talking about equal opportunity rather than equal outcome.

If a college accepts 20% of the applicants from Beverly Hills High, then they should accept 20% of the applicants from Compton High.  Equal opportunity.

If one ends up doing better than the other, then so be it, I'm not arguing for equal outcomes.




But then that's not "equal opportunity" anymore, that's preferential treatment based on some arbitrary factor.




Equal opportunity in higher education would require free tuition. You down?


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: koods] * 1
    #24573292 - 08/22/17 11:05 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Free tuition usually puts limits on who can go though.  Im a high school drop out.  I could never have gone if I didnt have the chance to take out loans and pay my way.  Still, I got a ton of federal grant money and my grad school was paid for.  Higher education is already heavily subsidized. Insane debt generally comes from poor choice in school and subsidizing a middle class lifestyle with loans.

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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: koods]
    #24573777 - 08/23/17 08:10 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
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qman said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:
Equal opportunity can never really come though.  Not unless we clone people…  Otherwise, some people are born more capable than others.  Now way around it.



Again, we're talking about equal opportunity rather than equal outcome.

If a college accepts 20% of the applicants from Beverly Hills High, then they should accept 20% of the applicants from Compton High.  Equal opportunity.

If one ends up doing better than the other, then so be it, I'm not arguing for equal outcomes.




But then that's not "equal opportunity" anymore, that's preferential treatment based on some arbitrary factor.




Equal opportunity in higher education would require free tuition. You down?




So borrowing money to go to college isn't "equal opportunity"?

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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman] * 1
    #24573783 - 08/23/17 08:18 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Are you serious?


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24573826 - 08/23/17 08:40 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Are you serious?




We are discussing equal opportunity to obtaining higher education, what does money have to do with having equal opportunity to do so?

Equal opportunity is about having equal access, it has nothing to do with personal finances.

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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman] * 2
    #24573905 - 08/23/17 09:27 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

lol, no.

Someone who gets to go to college for free and someone who has to go into massive debt to do so do not have an equal opportunity.

Don't start with the equal access shit. We got equal access to Ferraris too. Yet I only see rich people driving them. Its almost like money is a significant factor.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24573920 - 08/23/17 09:35 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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We got equal access to Ferraris too.




Bullshit.  Buying a new Ferrari takes more than money.


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