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Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation * 1
    #24557313 - 08/16/17 07:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/us/baltimore-confederate-statues.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=http://m.facebook.com

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Statues dedicated to Confederate heroes were swiftly removed across Baltimore in the small hours of Wednesday morning, just days after violence broke out over the removal of a similar monument in neighboring Virginia.

Beginning soon after midnight on Wednesday, a crew, which included a large crane and a contingent of police officers, began making rounds of the city’s parks and public squares, tearing the monuments from their pedestals and carting them out of town.




Necessary move for public safety considering the attention these civil war participation trophies get from right wing terror mobs.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: koods] * 2
    #24557420 - 08/16/17 09:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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right wing terror mobs.




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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: koods] * 1
    #24557467 - 08/16/17 09:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i think it was a smart move just to avoid violence but i also think the fact people are getting violent over this shit is totally inexcusable retardation because these statues arent important at all, we got much more important issues on the table

its unclear whether the unite the right is uniting anything or just causing another civil war but more violence is ahead of us thats for sure

gonna be interesting to watch this unfold


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Connoisseur]
    #24557476 - 08/16/17 09:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The statues are important to the racist idiots, and thats about it.

So lets get rid of em. The statues, I mean.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: The Ecstatic] * 5
    #24557488 - 08/16/17 09:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

why are you so keen to destroy your own history? are you for bulldozing the White House because it was built by slaves?


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 2
    #24557513 - 08/16/17 09:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The White House serves a purpose.

No one cried when we toppled Saddam's statue. Dont see why we should treat these anti american fuckwads any different.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #24557518 - 08/16/17 09:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

what has purpose got to do with it? we're talking about what these things are symbolic of. the White House is just as symbolic of slavery as any one of these statues.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24557536 - 08/16/17 09:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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So lets get rid of em. The statues, I mean.



I don't know.  It saddens me a bit to see them go.  They add character to the region.

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are you for bulldozing the White House because it was built by slaves?



We wouldn't have needed those slaves to build the white house if you brits hadn't burned the old one down.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Enlil]
    #24557598 - 08/16/17 10:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:lol: sorry about that


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 1
    #24557668 - 08/16/17 10:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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The statues are important to the racist idiots, and thats about it.

So lets get rid of em. The statues, I mean.



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what has purpose got to do with it? we're talking about what these things are symbolic of. the White House is just as symbolic of slavery as any one of these statues.




They are symbolic of a war fought by the south to keep their slaves. These are statues of people who fought to keep blacks as property not persons. honoring someone like that in your town square is an insult if you are black, and frankly if you are American because these people were also traitors.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: koods] * 2
    #24557690 - 08/16/17 11:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Will Teddy be next?
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...Last year, hundreds of activists in New York demanded the statue of Theodore Roosevelt at the American National History Museum be dismantled. They argued that Roosevelt was a racist.



http://www.standardrepublic.com/2017/08/tucker-carlson-if-we-want-to-erase-the-past-we-must-prepare-for-the-consequences/25078.htm



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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: vinsue]
    #24557704 - 08/16/17 11:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Everyone was a racist back then.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: koods] * 2
    #24557880 - 08/16/17 12:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Everyone was a racist back then.




I guess that will be the rationalization to destroy US history and heritage.

Today a segment of the US population hates their own nation, how ungrateful.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman]
    #24557886 - 08/16/17 12:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Taking down a statue doesn't destroy history or heritage.  That's just a silly argument.

There are plenty of things about American history that bring shame upon our heritage, though.  Slavery is almost certainly the biggest of those things. 


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 1
    #24557892 - 08/16/17 12:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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what has purpose got to do with it? we're talking about what these things are symbolic of. the White House is just as symbolic of slavery as any one of these statues.




No it isnt.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman] * 1
    #24557899 - 08/16/17 01:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Today a segment of the US population hates their own nation, how ungrateful.




one can hate that a war was fought to keep black people in slavery without hating our "own nation" and it has nothing at all to do with being grateful (about what, exactly?) or not.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Enlil]
    #24557907 - 08/16/17 01:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Taking down a statue doesn't destroy history or heritage.  That's just a silly argument.

There are plenty of things about American history that bring shame upon our heritage, though.  Slavery is almost certainly the biggest of those things. 




I agree, "Taking down a statue doesn't destroy history or heritage", but that's not going to satisfy most of the them. They're going to want to take down most of them going forward.

Where is the limit?  I'm sure they will find many rationalizations to get rid of many highly respected historical figures. 

"shame upon of heritage"

It's easy to judge hundreds of years later in a more civilized world, the self righteousness is over the top in many cases.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: relic]
    #24557913 - 08/16/17 01:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Today a segment of the US population hates their own nation, how ungrateful.




one can hate that a war was fought to keep black people in slavery without hating our "own nation" and it has nothing at all to do with being grateful (about what, exactly?) or not.




If they're going to pick apart that point of US history, EVERY historical figure will need to be removed, are you OK with that outcome?  Where's the limit?


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: qman]
    #24557917 - 08/16/17 01:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, judging someone for enslaving a human being is self-righteous and "over the top."

Slavery is the most reprehensible conduct a human can engage in.  There is nothing defensible about it.  There are no nuances or gray areas here.


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Re: Baltimore removes its confederate statues in overnight operation [Re: Enlil]
    #24557924 - 08/16/17 01:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, judging someone for enslaving a human being is self-righteous and "over the top."

Slavery is the most reprehensible conduct a human can engage in.  There is nothing defensible about it.  There are no nuances or gray areas here.




That true, but lets not forget there was a global slave trade taking place, most cultures around the world participated in it.

Are you prepared to be judged for your mistreatment of people in the future, for behavior which is completely commonplace today?


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