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Offlinebeforethedawn
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Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing * 1
    #24537715 - 08/07/17 09:34 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

We think of Self as a spiritual goal.

It is what was meant to be, it is at the heart of all happy lives.

People "give up life" for the sake of Self.

Self is the food you eat, the air you breathe, sensual pleasure.

It is a strange fetishizing of pleasure that makes it so scarce.

Self is ultimate pleasure.

You win, you lose, you have more to get, nothing to get, have everything, and then some.

Your life as it is, is Self, only a little in the depths of pretending.

Self is health.
Self is all.

It seems limited because of our language. We have a word for what is. How can what is be conceptualized? A concept is just a set of laws decreeing limitations of another more broad concept. A concept, say a box, is 4 sides. That's a basic limit on shape forever on that concept. Concepts are amazing but have nothing to do with what Is, which is Self. They can't. Say we have an infinite box. Space is limitless in it. Then it has no sides and is not a box. The concept is gone.

How to speak of it?

You can't. If you can't speak of it is there any reason to doubt it contains everything you need?

We have to somehow "fall" into it, by accident.

There is no attaining. We accidentally fall out of it also.


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24538051 - 08/08/17 12:00 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Self is a demonstration of the Self..

it is a martial station

For performing forms... and exists as everything as a form of one thing and another or to another..via the soul... which is the minimal fabric of existence..being the self exclusive to nothing..

So nothing exists and it doesnt..

because a black hole is true..so we have gnosis..which is a putting together and gathering of all things..and putting them in their place..and attempting to correct or define a thing for what it is..and its relation to the outside(other objects to itself) world.!


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #24539210 - 08/08/17 03:53 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

"So nothing exists and it doesnt.."
I would say, nothing exists, too, always maybe.
And so something can go somewhere...

edit: something is not to be confused with everything.


Edited by BlueCoyote (08/08/17 04:01 PM)


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #24543100 - 08/10/17 08:13 AM (3 months, 6 days ago)

reasonable altrusim...the existence is perfect as a host is it not?


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #24543480 - 08/10/17 12:33 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

i try to think of the first ape that realized his surroundings and how he went around naming everything, categorizing things, this good food, this dont eat, this animal you can eat, this animal eats you...

to say nothing exist is an oxy.. because by the observation of nothing you cause nothing to exist.

even to say nothing exist, nothing still exists.

nothing- w.o a single thing, w.o perspective, but once we observe nothing we cause it to exist through our perspective.

anything we observe with our conscious eye cannot be nothing, the vastness and emptiness of space you may say is nothing, i say its suspended animation, and potential for other life. i have conceptualized it and made it something.

beauty is in the eyes of the conscious observer.


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Yahshua was killed by the police.
be the cornerstone the builder refused.
understand with your heart not your mind.
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come dwell among the chosen.
many are called but the road is narrow.
thats why they failed and blamed you  for your unwavering.
"you cant keep a good man down always keep a smile when they want me to frown"
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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24545160 - 08/11/17 02:55 AM (3 months, 5 days ago)

Once again, I must say, you are all very interesting people.


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24545642 - 08/11/17 11:16 AM (3 months, 5 days ago)

Yes but there is something -- rather many things, you are yet missing.


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: graceful dragon]
    #24548483 - 08/12/17 05:05 PM (3 months, 4 days ago)

Self is feeling...Virtually living with virtue..in our day to day lives..we have to make food and eat..to learn to live with each other and respect the love of other people...deviancy is only a statistic..but the total cost of everyone includes them too.. The deviants..are only showing us another path..therefore the collective Human race can take from them as fuel for the fire burning in my Heart..as a Heart of the collective nation..into fuel is the disagreement of time..which has at it..either flow or crash..similar to the water philosophy of Bruce Lee..This means that things can go with the grain or without...which means you are tearing the fabric of existence..with your thought crime..and dirty actions..

But the real way is true..like surfing on a wave..it can be called true and merry..in the degree that we are getting off on waves..of amplitude and solving..solvation and salvation alike are from the wave mechanics of time..this is a response for the self..and to the self..about our many actions..in the course of intercourse..its not just other people out there..but a world..and a complete existence..of matter and space..which will be expanding forever..we are truly young..if you think to extend the national meter of eternity forward..maybe Seven Great Breaths..

the courageous lot..has in it..what I'm hoping to be in it..a type of fire that burns for the soul..but that it is which that which that cannot be taken away..because fire burns purely in the soul(Snow)..Layers of greed and mechanical witnessing..we will all be here for eternity..so we had better get along!


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: graceful dragon]
    #24548797 - 08/12/17 07:56 PM (3 months, 4 days ago)

Quote:

graceful dragon said:
Yes but there is something -- rather many things, you are yet missing.



Tell me more. :sunny:


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24549407 - 08/13/17 12:41 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)



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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: graceful dragon] * 1
    #24549447 - 08/13/17 01:15 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

I'm just kind of kidding you.

Just stay on level ground man, there's no need to try to be on absolute / and / or try to get others to be.

Sometimes we just need some rest, and some peace and so forth.

If you really get to the level, you won't consider yourself more wise or less wise.

It will just be love.


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Re: Self is true living, true life, contrary to nothing [Re: graceful dragon]
    #24552025 - 08/13/17 11:39 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

:peacesign:


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