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Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft
    #24548843 - 08/12/17 08:27 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I finished a few teks around 3 months ago and dried my harvests with both a dehydrator first and a desiccant chamber second. After both methods, I placed the mushrooms in an airtight mason jar with 2 silica bead packs enclosed. A month ago i went to eat some, and they were soft. So i placed them in to the desiccant chamber again for around a week until they were cracker dry, and back in to storage they went. Today i went to eat some and they were soft again. What could I be doing wrong here? Any help is apppreciated thanks.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548848 - 08/12/17 08:29 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

If they went bad in a jar either
A) you didn't dry them long enough
B) your desiccant was already wet and used.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: TheHunt]
    #24548854 - 08/12/17 08:33 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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If they went bad in a jar either
A) you didn't dry them long enough
B) your desiccant was already wet and used.




:frown: probably a bit of both. I dont see any black on the shrooms besides spores which i can wipe off. After ~3 months with on and off cracker dry-ness do you think they would be still safe to eat? Itd be a shame to throw out this many mushrooms :'(


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548866 - 08/12/17 08:37 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Skip the chamber entirely. The dehydrator is everything you need. Vac seal for long term storage.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: Dactylium]
    #24548876 - 08/12/17 08:42 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

If your mushrooms are cubes, dehydrate for 24 hours.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: Dactylium]
    #24548881 - 08/12/17 08:43 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Unfortunately dont have the dehydrator anymore. desiccant chamber is all I've got so I'll  get these cracker dry over the next week and test 1g on myself to see if they are still safe. :/


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548886 - 08/12/17 08:45 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Invest in a dehydrator ASAP. No sense losing your hard work.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: TheHunt]
    #24548888 - 08/12/17 08:45 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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If your mushrooms are cubes, dehydrate for 24 hours.



I think that might have been my problem. I severely underestimated how much both the monotubs would produce, and how little dehydrator space I had. Even when I bought a second dehydrator, I was getting them in an out as fast as possible to prevent the fresh fruits from rotting. Stupid first time planning mistakes.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: Dactylium]
    #24548895 - 08/12/17 08:47 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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Invest in a dehydrator ASAP. No sense losing your hard work.



Whelp im running to walmart right now. Hopefully I can still salvage these


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548898 - 08/12/17 08:48 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

You can keep the fresh ones in the fridge until you're ready to dehydrate them. A full 24 hours every time is a little silly. It depends on your dehydrator and how much you fill it. My 9 tray Excalibur gets them brittle as fuck in a few hours.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: Dactylium]
    #24548900 - 08/12/17 08:50 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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You can keep the fresh ones in the fridge until you're ready to dehydrate them. A full 24 hours every time is a little silly. It depends on your dehydrator and how much you fill it. My 9 tray Excalibur gets them brittle as fuck in a few hours.



I had a 5 tray nesco and they were bone dry in roughly 8 hours on medium heat so I thought that'd be sufficient and the chamber was overkill but I guess not. When i buy this dehydrator should I set it to max heat to maybe kill off any mold or is that just stupid? I think its stupid but am desperate.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548912 - 08/12/17 08:54 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

If they don't have any mold on em you're fine. It's just like food, use your senses to check if they're spoiled. If they look and smell fine, at worst you've lost some potency to the moisture. Use the highest heat setting your dehydrator has in the future. Moisture is the enemy. Heat is fine.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548914 - 08/12/17 08:54 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

If you get them cracker cracker dry in a Dehydrater ie turning to dust almost if you crush them.
If you then put them in a completely airtight container with little or no headspace preferably with desiccant.
You will have no problems.

If you have moisture it's because one of those 2 steps hasn't been followed.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548915 - 08/12/17 08:54 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

That nesco you will want to run 16 hours plus.
I have it.
it's not the best.

It dries my wild fruits in 12 hours.
cubes always take longer.

Wild fruits contain significantly less material.
water and chitin


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548924 - 08/12/17 09:02 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I bought a Nesco and four extra trays for it. Picked up another one on fb for cheap. Now I have two and split the extra trays between them. Don't know if the motor can handle all 14 trays.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: pineninja]
    #24548948 - 08/12/17 09:11 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I thought they were cracker dry because i pulverized 3.5g in a mortar and pestle and that worked fine. At walmart right now and I was wrong about the nesco brand. Its actually a salton vitapro but im going to bet that the quality is equally shit. Hopefully these things are still good after the dehydration.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24548988 - 08/12/17 09:30 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I understand.
The first time I dehydrated and stored they came out spongy.

Now I dehydrate till cracker cracker dry.......then I hit them again, just in case. :thumbup:


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: AnEdgyUserName]
    #24549038 - 08/12/17 09:50 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Using desiccant to dry shrooms is one of those asinine ideas that wont die.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: Love_spirit]
    #24549049 - 08/12/17 09:53 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

:whathesaid: I wish we could purge that old bullshit from the internet. It misguided me when I first started growing. Completely ruined my first project.


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Re: Cracker Dry Shrooms Keep Going Soft [Re: Dactylium]
    #24549059 - 08/12/17 09:57 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Many people either have a wild find without expecting it or get to the end of a grow without thinking bout the next step.

I think the use of ovens, fans, paper bags, dry towels, heaters and anything else that can be found for free is just due to people being out of immediate options.
You really only watch one batch go bunk before you get a Dehydrater.


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