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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: P. semilanceata]
    #24544271 - 08/10/17 07:14 PM (11 days, 17 hours ago)

Assuming your living in the right area and ergot does grow almost everywhere in the temperate World.

Once you notice it. You'll see it's not rare once your eyes get used to looking for it.


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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: Mandarinfish]
    #24545212 - 08/11/17 03:27 AM (11 days, 9 hours ago)

What is possible with culturing this?

Can you make some kind of tea for drinking? :laugh:


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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: Milk Chan]
    #24546889 - 08/11/17 09:06 PM (10 days, 15 hours ago)

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Milk Chan said:
What is possible with culturing this?

Can you make some kind of tea for drinking? :laugh:




Don't drink ergot tea it could really mess you up permanently. :sad:

Read up on Ergotism.

Ergotism


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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: Mandarinfish]
    #24547695 - 08/12/17 07:33 AM (10 days, 4 hours ago)

Wow, so that's how witches are made!

But seriously, how does one use a culture of this and not get poisoned?


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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: Milk Chan]
    #24547759 - 08/12/17 09:03 AM (10 days, 3 hours ago)

I dont think they are covered in poisonous alkaloids. They are inside the tissue. As you can see in youtube video posted they can be handled barehanded.

Edit. If you mean using it for chemistry experiments you must use cloves and be very careful. If you cannot imagine how to do it, you should not try it.


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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: P. semilanceata]
    #24557808 - 08/16/17 12:18 PM (6 days, 10 minutes ago)

On the way back home this morning along the sidewalk while riding my mountain bike I noticed some ergot growing on the ryegrass.

There's lots in that one location. I may go back at night this week so nobody wonders why I'm picking grass beside a main road in my city.

I'll be buying some rye grain at the end of the month to plant and I know there will be some ergot in that also. 



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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: Mandarinfish]
    #24558260 - 08/16/17 03:50 PM (5 days, 20 hours ago)

There are three reasons to collect and grow C. purpurea:

1. For the fun of it (cool to get the sclerotia to fruit, the cultural association with LSD etc.)
2. Extract ergotamine, reflux boil/hydrolyze to lysergic acid and follow a LSD synthesis.
3. Tregar found a method to grow Claviceps purpurea which manipulate it to create ergonovine instead of the ergotoxines (ergotamine etc.) and posted this on "The Nook" forums. I did a write up on the topic on dmt-nexus. It's basically a method to grow ergot on a solid medium of Wheat. Simple enough to perform in your kitchen.
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=584693#post584693
http://horizon.documentation.ird.fr/exl-doc/pleins_textes/pleins_textes_6/b_fdi_33-34/39188.pdf


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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: knarkkorven]
    #24559846 - 08/17/17 10:09 AM (5 days, 2 hours ago)

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There are three reasons to collect and grow C. purpurea:

1. For the fun of it (cool to get the sclerotia to fruit, the cultural association with LSD etc.)
2. Extract ergotamine, reflux boil/hydrolyze to lysergic acid and follow a LSD synthesis.
3. Tregar found a method to grow Claviceps purpurea which manipulate it to create ergonovine instead of the ergotoxines (ergotamine etc.) and posted this on "The Nook" forums. I did a write up on the topic on dmt-nexus. It's basically a method to grow ergot on a solid medium of Wheat. Simple enough to perform in your kitchen.
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=584693#post584693
http://horizon.documentation.ird.fr/exl-doc/pleins_textes/pleins_textes_6/b_fdi_33-34/39188.pdf




What's LSD?  :grin:


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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: Mandarinfish]
    #24565071 - 08/19/17 02:42 PM (2 days, 21 hours ago)

thank you knarkkorven. great links!

I was doing some more research on Claviceps purpurea and came across an old thread by you with some beautiful photos (your photos!).
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14762126

Do the fruit bodies contain ergonovine?


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Re: Ergot Alive in My Refrigerator [Re: Milk Chan]
    #24565484 - 08/19/17 05:55 PM (2 days, 18 hours ago)

Did you also see my other threads? :smile:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13180405
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16709127 (lots of nice photos in this thread)
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18648824
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php/gallery/145952/imgpp/all/folder/Claviceps+purpurea the complete claviceps gallery

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Do the fruit bodies contain ergonovine?



Yes, but only a small amount compared to the peptides (ergotamine etc.). That's why growing on solid substrate is so interesting! It creates an almost clean alkaloid profile (93%) of the psychedelic ergonovine, and ergotamine is eliminated!


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