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The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate * 7
    #24524134 - 08/02/17 04:28 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

http://blog.norml.org/2017/08/01/the-marijuana-justice-act-introduced-in-senate/

by NORML
August 1, 2017

Senator Corey Booker (D-NJ) has introduced comprehensive marijuana reform legislation, the Marijuana Justice Act of 2017.

The bill would (1) remove marijuana from the US Controlled Substances Act, thereby ending the federal criminalization of cannabis; (2) incentivize states to mitigate existing and ongoing racial disparities in state-level marijuana arrests; (3) expunge federal convictions specific to marijuana possession; (4) allow individuals currently serving time in federal prison for marijuana-related violations to petition the court for resentencing; (5) and create a community reinvestment fund to invest in communities most impacted by the failed War on Drugs.

“Not only is it imperative we end our failed experiment of marijuana prohibition, we must also ensure justice for those who suffered most under these draconian policies,” said NORML Executive Director Erik Altieri, “We applaud Senator Booker for introducing this robust legislation that would not only remove marijuana from the Controlled Substances Act, but provide a path forward for the individuals and communities that were most disproportionately targeted by our nation’s failed war on marijuana consumers.”

Thirty states, Washington, DC and the US territories of Guam and Puerto Rico have enacted legislation specific to the physician-authorized use of cannabis, while an estimated 63 million Americans now reside in jurisdictions where anyone over the age of 21 may possess cannabis legally. Voters overwhelmingly support these policy changes. According to a 2017 Quinnipiac University poll, 59 percent of Americans support full marijuana legalization and 71 percent believe that states, not the federal government, should set marijuana policy.

To date, these statewide regulatory programs are operating largely as voters and politicians intended. The enactment of these policies have not negatively impacted workplace safety, crime rates, traffic safety, or youth use patterns. They have stimulated economic development and created hundreds of millions of dollars in new tax revenue. Specifically, a 2017 report estimates that 123,000 Americans are now working full-time in the cannabis industry. Tax revenues from states like Colorado, Oregon, and Washington now exceed initial projections. Further, numerous studies have identified an association between cannabis access and lower rates of opioid use, abuse, hospitalizations, and mortality.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: vinsue]
    #24524194 - 08/02/17 05:38 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

why didn't they think of this prior to the election?

oh, that's right, he and all democrats are as slimy as all the other politicians who only bring up popular ideas when it is convenient for them.

smells like someone wants to keep his job next election


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: keyser_soze]
    #24524249 - 08/02/17 06:44 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: bryguy27007]
    #24524361 - 08/02/17 08:27 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt it will get very far.  There have been other bills that die.

Maybe bills not this complete.

I would be excited to get our hands on a federal permit.  I need work and just growing hay isn't making shit for money.  Great open field just waiting for some ganja.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #24524396 - 08/02/17 08:51 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

If this does not pass, something like it Will pass in the future, it's just a matter of time.

We must not become complacent, I know the tides have been turning in favor of the cannabis community but there is still fierce opposition and many obstacles which need to be overcome.

Federal legalization should be top priority.

( I am actually hoping that cannabis can be the spear point towards legalization of all traditional psychedelics.

The prerequisites for a compound being placed in schedule one are:

·The compound must have high abuse potential or be addictive

·The compound must have no medical value

And

·The compound must be dangerous.

Obviously cannabis has medical value, obviously cannabis is not addictive, one can not become physically dependant, and cannabis is not dangerous, risks are at an absolute minimal and it is not possible for one to overdose on the compound.

Simultaneously, traditional psychedelics such as psilocybin/psilocin, mescaline, LSD, DMT, and others are NOT addictive, one can not become physically dependant, and they have an incredibly low abuse potential, cannabis has a much higher abuse potential than these traditional psychedelics, which due to rapid tolerance must be taken with a period of time separating each experience, making daily abuse very difficult if not impossible. These traditional psychedelics all have medical value in one form or another, and have been traditionally used as medicines since prehistory. These traditional psychedelics are NOT dangerous, there have been no recorded deaths from mescaline, psilocybin/psilocin, DMT, and even LSD. In many cases, as with psilocybin fungi, your stomach probably would not be able to hold the amount of fungus required to reach lethal dose range. This can be discussed and debated, the the facts stand ·Not dangerous ·Not addictive, not with the high potential for abuse, and ·Medical value, meaning these compounds are not appropriate for schedule 1.

These compounds have also been in use since prehistory for religious reasons, the united states constitution states that the government does not have the right to interfere with religious practices, yet time and time again the government violates this constitutional right and charges people for consuming their genuine religious sacraments.

I feel if people would fight tooth and nail for their first amendment right to freely practice their religion and to consume their religions entheogenic sacraments that the government would eventually have to yield and grant the people their guaranteed rights. How can modern drug laws void you constitutional right to freely practice your religion of choice?
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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Ibex-Trismegistus] * 2
    #24524475 - 08/02/17 09:41 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

This bill is the shit.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: sunshine]
    #24524525 - 08/02/17 10:07 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

A good bill and first step unfortunately the Bill has not gotten any co-sponsors.

Cannabis will not be legalized in America until the Democrats have the balls to run on this issue during an election. Hopefully in the next one.

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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: rider420]
    #24524566 - 08/02/17 10:23 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Does sessions have any say in this if it passes thru senate besides recommending trump not to sign it? I know there's no way this would pass with his say on any of it


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: rider420]
    #24524584 - 08/02/17 10:31 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I highly doubt this bill will will go through.  Itd be super cool if it did though.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Ibex-Trismegistus]
    #24524612 - 08/02/17 10:55 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Obviously cannabis has medical value, obviously cannabis is not addictive, one can not become physically dependant, and cannabis is not dangerous, risks are at an absolute minimal and it is not possible for one to overdose on the compound.





No. "Medical value" has a legal definition that isn't met by MJ. Similarly, physical dependence and "addictive" also are interpreted differently within the CSA.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: badchad]
    #24524884 - 08/02/17 12:56 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

This is quite a huge step, are they ready to admit marijuana in like that yet? It seems sudden, and while marijuana may have anti cancer properties, is it really safe for recreational use? It's what the people want at least.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Blabble40] * 1
    #24524922 - 08/02/17 01:22 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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This is quite a huge step, are they ready to admit marijuana in like that yet? It seems sudden, and while marijuana may have anti cancer properties, is it really safe for recreational use? It's what the people want at least.




Nothing in life is perfectly safe! However cannabis is safer then tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, most sports and yes even sugar look at the health costs of obesity.

No one has ever died from cannabis use it might be a contributing factor in some morons death but the act of using cannabis is harmless its doing something stupid that gets people killed not the drug! And lets face facts far more straight morons die every day then stoned ones!

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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: rider420]
    #24524934 - 08/02/17 01:28 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Kids need to smoke it growing up.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Ibex-Trismegistus]
    #24525046 - 08/02/17 02:36 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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sunshine said:
Kids need to smoke it growing up.




Wouldn't be surprised if I would have literal died if not for cannabis. Getting stoned is a big part of how I managed to turn down alcohol and sketchy drugs most my life.

Before I really started smoking around 11 or so I nearly died from alcohol poisoning :sad: After that I had 0 interest in drinking or using most unnatural drugs.

I certainly wouldn't say cannabis is harmless though, nothing is. Not even water or air :lol:

But I think it's clear to anyone remotely smart and unbiased that cannabis is pretty much infinitely more medicinal then harmful when used responsibly.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: vinsue]
    #24525214 - 08/02/17 03:31 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Be nice to see mushrooms thrown in with mj. Maybe another day.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #24525241 - 08/02/17 03:41 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Be nice to see mushrooms thrown in with mj. Maybe another day.




The social acceptance for mushrooms seems pretty far behind cannabis sadly, but it's catching up as well. Hopefully both are legal before too long.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: musiclover420]
    #24525869 - 08/02/17 08:20 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

No, it won't pass this time but it will get some notice. Not much by the msm, they will ignore it or propagandize that its going to hurt kids or something. The gop won't let it happen, trump said he would not worry about medical pot but this goes beyond that even if he kept his promise about med mj which there is no sign he has done even that.

>Cannabis will not be legalized in America until the Democrats have the balls to run on this issue during an election.

They never will but the public is proving that they are stronger than not only both crooked political parties but also capable of throwing off the media. State by state it gets legalized first for med then for rec. Every so often we throw off our chains and do something but the other 99.9% of the time, the sheep just follow along.

We also need to audit the fed, the pentagon and a few other departments. Change is coming


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Ibex-Trismegistus]
    #24525944 - 08/02/17 08:56 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I got a question hopefully one of you guys can answer for me.
I keep seeing\reading that weed isn't physically addicting, but when I'm smoking a decent amount of THC (1-3 grams flower + a few dabs daily), for a long period of time (~year or more) and I stop smoking cold turkey.

I will hardly eat anything all day for a day or two,  When while smoking I'll eat 3 solid meals a day plus snacks. I'll also be irritable and have trouble sleeping for the first week of not smoking.
These symptoms disappear immediately after smoking down. I'll get super hungry, chill, and get an amazing nights sleep.

Wouldnt those be considered physical withdraw symptoms?  Meaning cannabis can at least be some what physically addictive?


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: TheDrake]
    #24525959 - 08/02/17 09:03 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

that is different than your body aching, shivers, night sweats and terrors, days sweats and terrors, and tremors.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: TheDrake]
    #24525987 - 08/02/17 09:15 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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TheDrake said:
I got a question hopefully one of you guys can answer for me.
I keep seeing\reading that weed isn't physically addicting, but when I'm smoking a decent amount of THC (1-3 grams flower + a few dabs daily), for a long period of time (~year or more) and I stop smoking cold turkey.

I will hardly eat anything all day for a day or two,  When while smoking I'll eat 3 solid meals a day plus snacks. I'll also be irritable and have trouble sleeping for the first week of not smoking.
These symptoms disappear immediately after smoking down. I'll get super hungry, chill, and get an amazing nights sleep.

Wouldnt those be considered physical withdraw symptoms?  Meaning cannabis can at least be some what physically addictive?




I think this is in part thanks to extracts and super potent strains.

Most people smoking medicinally aren't using enough that anything like that will be nearly as noticeable.

It doesn't take too much effort to cut down either, when you overuse it the effects tend to get a lot milder anyways so it's almost a waste :shrug:


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: TheDrake]
    #24526210 - 08/02/17 10:49 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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TheDrake said:
I got a question hopefully one of you guys can answer for me.
I keep seeing\reading that weed isn't physically addicting, but when I'm smoking a decent amount of THC (1-3 grams flower + a few dabs daily), for a long period of time (~year or more) and I stop smoking cold turkey.

I will hardly eat anything all day for a day or two,  When while smoking I'll eat 3 solid meals a day plus snacks. I'll also be irritable and have trouble sleeping for the first week of not smoking.
These symptoms disappear immediately after smoking down. I'll get super hungry, chill, and get an amazing nights sleep.

Wouldnt those be considered physical withdraw symptoms?  Meaning cannabis can at least be some what physically addictive?




Gambling is known to be addictive as are computer games. People really do have physical withdrawal symptoms when they quit things they love doing. And relatively speaking caffeine has more withdrawal symptoms then cannabis. So yes you can get addicted to cannabis but its nothing compared to the constant craving that tobacco use causes. Yes I've been there pot is easy to quit caffeine too but nicotine is a real fucking bitch!

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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: TheDrake]
    #24526553 - 08/03/17 02:46 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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TheDrake said:
I got a question hopefully one of you guys can answer for me.
I keep seeing\reading that weed isn't physically addicting, but when I'm smoking a decent amount of THC (1-3 grams flower + a few dabs daily), for a long period of time (~year or more) and I stop smoking cold turkey.

I will hardly eat anything all day for a day or two,  When while smoking I'll eat 3 solid meals a day plus snacks. I'll also be irritable and have trouble sleeping for the first week of not smoking.
These symptoms disappear immediately after smoking down. I'll get super hungry, chill, and get an amazing nights sleep.

Wouldnt those be considered physical withdraw symptoms?  Meaning cannabis can at least be some what physically addictive?




That by it's definition is a physical symptom of withdrawal.

People think that since its nothing like heroin withdrawal that marijuana has no withdrawal but I've met plenty of people who have gone through it, like I said nothing like the conceived version of a withdrawal but the same none the less.

Marijuana can be mentally addictive, people get addicted to the craziest shit so to say marijuana has zero addiction potential isn't accurate, everything has addiction potential.

I've met people addicted to whippets, I've met people addicted to weed, etc etc. Sure they're not going to suck a dick for a bag of bud but that doesn't really change the point.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: rider420]
    #24526555 - 08/03/17 02:48 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

TheDrake said:
I got a question hopefully one of you guys can answer for me.
I keep seeing\reading that weed isn't physically addicting, but when I'm smoking a decent amount of THC (1-3 grams flower + a few dabs daily), for a long period of time (~year or more) and I stop smoking cold turkey.

I will hardly eat anything all day for a day or two,  When while smoking I'll eat 3 solid meals a day plus snacks. I'll also be irritable and have trouble sleeping for the first week of not smoking.
These symptoms disappear immediately after smoking down. I'll get super hungry, chill, and get an amazing nights sleep.

Wouldnt those be considered physical withdraw symptoms?  Meaning cannabis can at least be some what physically addictive?




Gambling is known to be addictive as are computer games. People really do have physical withdrawal symptoms when they quit things they love doing. And relatively speaking caffeine has more withdrawal symptoms then cannabis. So yes you can get addicted to cannabis but its nothing compared to the constant craving that tobacco use causes. Yes I've been there pot is easy to quit caffeine too but nicotine is a real fucking bitch!




Yeah I find nicotine and caffeine x100 times harder to quit than cannabis was.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: keyser_soze]
    #24526662 - 08/03/17 05:09 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

The withdrawals from cannabis are for sure super mild compared to other drugs but they're still withdrawal symptoms.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: TheDrake]
    #24526818 - 08/03/17 07:24 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

This bill, or a similar one, are bound to pass very, very soon. Its like if the article is anti-weed everyone disagrees with it. Pro-, its not gonna pass, lol. You never know. But it does seem alot of you guys are pessimists. :P

Where else can we go from here? Of course, with the right people in charge, this will pass in a heartbeat. Because we and they know that at this point, there isnt much alternative. No one is cool with even going back to the Bush jr days. That will not be tolerated. So what else? Eventually theyre gonna have to take it off the schedule list. Maybe in its very own schedule (schedule420)


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Fractal420]
    #24526827 - 08/03/17 07:31 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I think alot of cannabis "withdrawal" is mental. ^ it is still present sure. But. Its nothing you cant power through, especially with some cbd. It seems like the first day is hard, but by day 3 you really dont even need to smoke at all. (How it is for me). I think i just mentally want it. And when im running low i freak out, get another O, blahblah.

The worst is being in LA, not really having time for recs or hitting anyone up, and just being in a really weed-friendly place without weed, its a nightmare! Luckily at least there i usually end up getting some. Too much peer pressure :P


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Fractal420]
    #24527186 - 08/03/17 10:41 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Just a Nancy grace and colleagues will go on another "pot smokers are massacring entire families on the highway" rant. I truly hope it won't matter, but I think just like gay marriage it's been legalized in too many states, it's clear as present day the sky isn't falling, the data is out. Teenagers aren't filling the alley ways overdosing because of the gateway effect, opioid overdoses are way down in the legal states.I hope the cats out of the bag gentleman.

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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: fractalgod] * 1
    #24527234 - 08/03/17 11:03 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I usually go strait nut's trying to stop smoking weed.  Not so bad if I'm traveling and staying busy.

Trying to stop tobacco is also very difficult.  I'm the type that gets set in my ways.  It's hard to go to bed dissatisfied and eat when unhappy.

There can be some anxiety revolving around the supply of smoke.  Running low on weed is not usually a happy thought.  Spending money on weed is also not a very wise thing.  Much smarter to spend on seeds and grow equipment if you are legal.

Weed is sorta interesting like sex.  It can be a roller coaster of a relationship at times.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24528302 - 08/03/17 07:48 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

lol at the talk of mushrooms becoming legal.

If mushrooms become legal in my lifetime, I'll eat an ounce.

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    #24529163 - 08/04/17 06:04 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Quitting weed makes me feel like shit..Worse than quitting booze.

As for the bill... I'm pretty sure this happens every year. I have a friend who is a lobbyist for medical mj in Washington and he swears up and down that it wont go federal...They are working on a state by state basis.. The end goal is full legalization of all drugs.

With Canadian federal cannabis legalization looming and legal peyote up here....I think the psychedelic legality issue will get pushed soon at least in Canada and then who knows...Could be good.


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    #24532802 - 08/05/17 02:59 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

To many powerful people making huge sums of cash keeping marijuana a class 1 drug. Cartels even pay huge sums to lobbyists to keep the status qou.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Doc9151]
    #24538284 - 08/08/17 01:39 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

doubt it will even be voted on in committee, like similar bills in the past.  however, sessions if I remember correctly, was the head of that committee. who took his place?


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: trscstghst]
    #24538637 - 08/08/17 07:25 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

This post is extremely lengthy and I apologize, but it explains why these drugs are illegal and why the government wants them that way.

The government controls the drug black market.

During Viet nam American troops were "supervising" General pao and his anti-communist army, this was a peasant army without resources or hard currency, but they had opium, so the American government used it's "air America" CIA airline to sell the heroin globally to support the peasant rebel armies fighting americas communist enemies.

Fast forward a bit:

Reagan, during "Iran-contra" got caught selling weapons to Iran to fund "contras" (counter revolutionaries) who were fighting the supposedly communist "Sandinistas" in Nicaragua. The united states was in a cocaine epidemic during Reagan because his administration was selling contra cocaine to fund the contras fight against communism. While Nancy is saying "just say no" old Ronnie is pushing cocaine globally through the CIA.

Gary Webb broke the CIA cocaine dealing story in the press, only to be found dead of TWO gunshot wounds to the head, his death was ruled a suicide.

The point is that the government uses the drug market to generate large Sums of untraceable cash which is used to fund armies fighting americas enemies as well as black projects.

If they legalized drugs, they would loose all that secret untraceable funding.

If you control a market, and can imprison and destroy any and all competition through the military and law, would you give up this money and control? This is why they are fighting so hard for cannabis to stay illegal.

It's no coincidence that we are backing rebel armies in the middle east while the united stares is in an opium epidemic. All those rebel armies fighting Assad in Syria don't have any resources or hard currency, but they have opium, which the CIA sells to fund them.

It's not hard to figure their game out, yet nobody does, and when you tell others they don't believe you, they say "our government is fighting drugs, not selling them", what they fail to realize is that the government is composed of humans, it's not some moral pillar in existence which is incorruptible.

Any way, believe me or not, the drug war is doing exactly what it was designed to do, they WANT drugs illegal.


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The government is very concerned to control the mass mind. And marijuana -- my God, since the British Commission on Hemp, which was in 1889, I believe -- the British East India Company commissioned a study of hemp -- they have spent millions and millions and millions of dollars to find something, anything, you name it, wrong with cannabis. There is nothing wrong with cannabis. It is the most thoroughly tested, pawed over, and examined drug in human history. And they just come up with the lamest stuff. I mean, they tell you, you know, you're gonna have tits. Give me a break. They say, 'You won't be motivated in your job.' Like your job is supposed to be the (pinnacle) against which all things are to be measured.
And I think people on our side of this question have been tremendously naive, because people just think, 'We just have to convince them that it's harmless.' *It ain't harmless.* It is a knife poised at the heart of dominator values. It would make the modern industrial assembly line, political loyalites, the macho image projection -- all of these little tricks that they're running are severely eroded by cannabis. And they will stop at nothing to eradicate it. Look at the budget of the DEA -- what are they doing? They're giving, 65% is dedicated to cannabis eradication. Heroin gets 20%, coke gets all the rest. It's demonstrably absurd the way the money is spent, unless you have a secret agenda of some sort. And if your agenda is to supress the evolution of unwanted social attitudes in the American public, then you have to keep your eye on cannabis very very closely. The new guy who heads the War on Drugs, Martinez? This guy, I heard him on NPR this week, and his most passionate moment in the half hour interview was, he said, 'We have pushed the price of an ounce of cannabis past the price of an ounce of gold, and we're going to keep it that way.' Nothing about eradication, talk about keeping the price high. The fact that they refuse to tax it when they're starving for revenue shows that there must be a secret agenda. It doesn't make any kind of sense.
When I wrote this book, I did a lot of research on an area I didn't know that much about, which is, let's say from 1500 to the present, drugs of addiction. And what I discovered is drug smuggling is like assassination. If the government isn't involved, it never seems to really happen. And governments have been using drugs for centuries as forms of secret revenue. This whole sugar thing that I laid out to you, those were decisions made by the crown heads of Europe in collusion with the Pope. It wasn't common people who set those policies in place.
During the 1960's, when the black ghettos began to come apart, suddenly number three China white heroin was cheaper and more available than it had ever been in any time in this history of the heroin problem in the United States. Why? Because the CIA saw, you know, all these black guys are getting up, a bunch of uppity niggers as the government calls them, you just smother it in heroin. Get everybody either hooked or making money...
And they don't care really about the effects of drugs, and one group, one faction will work against another. For example, I'm a great afficianado of hashish, and hashish became very hard to get in the United States in the late 70's. But as soon as the Russians invaded Afghanistan, suddenly there was massive amounts of excellent Afghani hashish, at prices that nobody had seen for fifteen years. Well, the reason was, the CIA knows that hashish is not really a problem. But what they wanted is, they wanted an income for the mujahadin. And they had to pay for all these weapons. So they just started bringing it in wholesale. And it wasn't even a smuggling operation. I mean, I received reports from people who said, you know, 'Smuggling? They're not smuggling. They're unloading it on pier 39, union local 1030 is taking off, you know, five hundred pound blocks of hashish by the tens of thousands.' And the day the Afghan war ended? They staged an enormous series of interlocking busts on their own infrastructure, and they closed it down, and they pulled it to pieces.
When Khomeni kicked out the Shah, the Iranian heroin business then fell under the control of the mulahs, and at that point, suddenly cocaine emerges as a major problem in the United States, because we just switched our supply lines. We could no longer depend on Iranian heroin, because we couldn't depend on these screwy Islamic fundamentalists, so we just turned toward all of these company assets in Honduras and Ecuador and Columbia. Very, very cynical.
You know, it's only been a hundred and twenty years since the so called opium wars. Very few people know what the opium wars, what was the issue in the opium wars. Well, it turns out the British government wanted to deal opium in China, and the Chinese Emperor told them to get lost. And they flipped. And they sent naval units, and they laid siege to several Chinese cities, and they forced the Chinese imperial court to agree that they could deal as much opium as they wanted on the wharves of Shanghai...
The Japanese, when they invaded Manchuria in the Second World War, they immediately began producing heroin and opium in vast amounts, not then as an economic strategy, but as a strategy to break the will of the Chinese population by encouraging addiction, and there was vast amounts of opium addiction. If any of you saw 'The Last Emperor,' you recall that his mistress was severely addicted to opium, and it depicted it in a number of scenes.
So governments have very cynically manipulated drugs, so that the drugs which make it possible for capitalism to function are cheap and freely available, and the drugs which erode dominator values, or cause people to question their situation, are savagely supressed.

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Modern industrial civilization has very skillfully promoted certain drugs and supressed others. A perfect example is caffeine. Caffeine -- I hate to tell you this -- caffeine is a fairly dangerous drug. It isn't dangerous in that a cup of coffee will kill you, but a lifestyle built around caffeine is going to -- you're not going to live to be a hundred years old, or even seventy, unless you are statistically in the improbably group. Why is caffeine not only tolerated but exalted? Because, boy, you can spin those widgets onto their winkles just endlessly without a thought on your mind. It is *the* perfect drug for modern industrial manufacturing. Why do you think caffeine, a dangerous, health destroying, destructive drug, that has to be brought from the ends of the earth, is enshrined in every labor contract in the Western world as a right? The coffee break -- if somebody tried to take away the coffee break, you know, the masses would rise in righteous fury and pull them down. We don't have a beer break. We don't have a pot break. I mean, if you suggested, 'Well, we don't want a coffee break. We want to be a ble to smoke a joint at eleven,' they would say, 'Well, you're just some kind of -- you're a social degenerate, a troublemaker, a mad dog, a criminal.' And yet, the cost health benefit of those two drugs, there's no comparison. Obviously, pot would be the better choice. The problem is, then you're going to be standing there dreaming, rather than spinning the widgets onto the nuts. (laughter)
Coca leaves would be very good. I suspect in the near future we may see the legalization of coca as a sop to the mentality that wishes to see cocaine... Andy Weil, who's a good friend of mine -- we don't agree on everything, but -- a few years ago he had great enthusiasm for a coca chewing gum. And I never got on the bandwagon because I didn't see that we needed another high focus industrial stimulant on the market. But coca would be great, and certainly in the Amazon, if you're a petrone, you encourage your workers to chew coca. I mean, they're worthless without coca. Give them coca and put a machete in their hands and they will just flail for hours at the bush.
Another example that's interesting, that shows how blinded and unaware we are of how drugs have shaped our society...We all know that slavery ended in the United States in the Civil War. And most people, if you question them, think that slavery existed before the Civil War in many places back into ancient times. This is not true at all. Slavery died in Western civilization with the collapse of the Roman empire. During the Dark Ages and the medieval period, if you owned a slave, you owned *one* slave. It was the equivalent of owning a Ferrari or a Lamborghini. It was an index of immense wealth, and social status, and that slave would be a houseboy, or a cook or something like that, someone close in to you, taking care of you. It was inconceivable to use slave labor in the production of an agricultural product, until Europe acquired an insatiable desire for sugar.
Now, let's think about sugar for a moment. Nobody needs sugar. You can go from birth to the grave without ever having a teaspoon full of white sugar. You will never miss it. Throughout the Dark Ages and the Middle Ages, sugar was a drug, a medicine. It was used to pack wounds, to keep wounds septic. And it was very expensive and there was very little of it. Nobody even knew where it came from. It was called cane honey, because they knew it came from some kind of jointed grass, but nobody had a clear picture of what sugar was.
Well, when you extract sugar from sugar cane, it requires, in pre-modern technology, a temperature of about 130 degrees. You cannot -- free men will not work sugar. It's too unpleasant. You faint, you die from heat prostration. You have to take prisoners and you have to chain them to the sugar vats. And so, before the discovery of America, in the fifty years before the discovery of America, they began growing sugar cane in the east Atlantic islands, Medeira and the Canary Islands. And they brought Africans, and sold them into slavery specifically for sugar production.
Now when we get American history, they tell you that slaves were used to produce cotton and tobacco. In fact, this is not quite the truth. They had to find things for slaves to do, because they brought so many slaves to the New World to work sugar, and they had so many children, that then they just expanded and said, 'Well, we've used slaves to work sugar, we might as well use them in cotton and tobacco production.' In 1800, every ounce of sugar entering England was being produced by slave labor of the most brutal and demeaning sort. And there was very little protest over this. It was just accepted. To this day, sugar cultivation in the third world is a kind of institutionalized slavery. Christian, you know, the Popes, the kinds of Europe, all of Christian civilization acquiesced in the bringing back of a practice that had been discredited during the fall of Rome, in order to supply the insatiable need for sugar. It was an addiction. It had no cultural defense whatsoever.

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1947 to 1951, FRANCE

According to Alfred W. McCoy in The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia, CIA arms, money, and disinformation enabled Corsican criminal syndicates in Marseille to wrestle control of labor unions from the Communist Party. The Corsicans gained political influence and control over the docks — ideal conditions for cementing a long-term partnership with mafia drug distributors, which turned Marseille into the postwar heroin capital of the Western world. Marseille’s first heroin laboratones were opened in 1951, only months after the Corsicans took over the waterfront.

EARLY 1950s, SOUTHEAST ASIA

The Nationalist Chinese army, organized by the CIA to wage war against Communist China, became the opium barons of The Golden Triangle (parts of Burma, Thailand and Laos), the world’s largest source of opium and heroin. Air America, the ClA’s principal airline proprietary, flew the drugs all over Southeast Asia. (See Christopher Robbins, Air America, Avon Books, 1985, chapter 9)

1950s to early 1970s, INDOCHINA During U.S. military involvement in Laos and other parts of Indochina, Air America flew opium and heroin throughout the area. Many Gl’s in Vietnam became addicts. A laboratory built at CIA headquarters in northern Laos was used to refine heroin. After a decade of American military intervention, Southeast Asia had become the source of 70 percent of the world’s illicit opium and the major supplier of raw materials for America’s booming heroin market.

1973-80, AUSTRALIA

The Nugan Hand Bank of Sydney was a CIA bank in all but name. Among its officers were a network of US generals, admirals and CIA men, including fommer CIA Director William Colby, who was also one of its lawyers. With branches in Saudi Arabia, Europe, Southeast Asia, South America and the U.S., Nugan Hand Bank financed drug trafficking, money laundering and international arms dealings. In 1980, amidst several mysterious deaths, the bank collapsed, $50 million in debt. (See Jonathan Kwitny, The Crimes of Patriots: A True Tale of Dope, Dirty Money and the CIA, W.W. Norton & Co., 1 987.)

1970s and 1980s, PANAMA

For more than a decade, Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega was a highly paid CIA asset and collaborator, despite knowledge by U.S. drug authorities as early as 1971 that the general was heavily involved in drug trafficking and money laundering. Noriega facilitated ”guns-for-drugs” flights for the contras, providing protection and pilots, as well as safe havens for drug cartel otficials, and discreet banking facilities. U.S. officials, including then-ClA Director William Webster and several DEA officers, sent Noriega letters of praise for efforts to thwart drug trafficking (albeit only against competitors of his Medellin Cartel patrons). The U.S. government only turned against Noriega, invading Panama in December 1989 and kidnapping the general once they discovered he was providing intelligence and services to the Cubans and Sandinistas. Ironically drug trafficking through Panama increased after the US invasion. (John Dinges, Our Man in Panama, Random House, 1991; National Security Archive Documentation Packet The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations.)

1980s, CENTRAL AMERICA

The San Jose Mercury News series documents just one thread of the interwoven operations linking the CIA, the contras and the cocaine cartels. Obsessed with overthrowing the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua, Reagan administration officials tolerated drug trafficking as long as the traffickers gave support to the contras. In 1989, the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics, and International Operations (the Kerry committee) concluded a three-year investigation by stating:

“There was substantial evidence of drug smuggling through the war zones on the part of individual Contras, Contra suppliers, Contra pilots mercenaries who worked with the Contras, and Contra supporters throughout the region…. U.S. officials involved in Central America failed to address the drug issue for fear of jeopardizing the war efforts against Nicaragua…. In each case, one or another agency of the U.S. govemment had intormation regarding the involvement either while it was occurring, or immediately thereafter…. Senior U S policy makers were nit immune to the idea that drug money was a perfect solution to the Contras’ funding problems.” (Drugs, Law Enforcement and Foreign Policy, a Report of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and Intemational Operations, 1989)

In Costa Rica, which served as the “Southern Front” for the contras (Honduras being the Northern Front), there were several different ClA-contra networks involved in drug trafficking. In addition to those servicing the Meneses-Blandon operation detailed by the Mercury News, and Noriega’s operation, there was CIA operative John Hull, whose farms along Costa Rica’s border with Nicaragua were the main staging area for the contras. Hull and other ClA-connected contra supporters and pilots teamed up with George Morales, a major Miami-based Colombian drug trafficker who later admitted to giving $3 million in cash and several planes to contra leaders. In 1989, after the Costa Rica government indicted Hull for drug trafficking, a DEA-hired plane clandestinely and illegally flew the CIA operative to Miami, via Haiti. The US repeatedly thwarted Costa Rican efforts to extradite Hull back to Costa Rica to stand trial. Another Costa Rican-based drug ring involved a group of Cuban Amencans whom the CIA had hired as military trainers for the contras. Many had long been involved with the CIA and drug trafficking They used contra planes and a Costa Rican-based shnmp company, which laundered money for the CIA, to move cocaine to the U.S. Costa Rica was not the only route. Guatemala, whose military intelligence service — closely associated with the CIA — harbored many drug traffickers, according to the DEA, was another way station along the cocaine highway.

Additionally, the Medellin Cartel’s Miami accountant, Ramon Milian Rodriguez, testified that he funneled nearly $10 million to Nicaraguan contras through long-time CIA operative Felix Rodriguez, who was based at Ilopango Air Force Base in El Salvador. The contras provided both protection and infrastructure (planes, pilots, airstrips, warehouses, front companies and banks) to these ClA-linked drug networks. At least four transport companies under investigation for drug trafficking received US govemment contracts to carry non-lethal supplies to the contras. Southern Air Transport, “formerly” ClA-owned, and later under Pentagon contract, was involved in the drug running as well. Cocaine-laden planes flew to Florida, Texas, Louisiana and other locations, including several militarv bases Designated as ‘Contra Craft,” these shipments were not to be inspected. When some authority wasn’t clued in and made an arrest, powerful strings were pulled on behalf of dropping the case, acquittal, reduced sentence, or deportation.

1980s to early 1990s, AFGHANISTAN

ClA-supported Moujahedeen rebels engaged heavily in drug trafficking while fighting against the Soviet-supported govemment and its plans to reform the very backward Afghan society. The Agency’s principal client was Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, one of the leading druglords and leading heroin refiner. CIA supplied trucks and mules, which had carried arms into Afghanistan, were used to transport opium to laboratories along the Afghan Pakistan border. The output provided up to one half of the heroin used annually in the United States and three-quarters of that used in Western Europe. US officials admitted in 1990 that they had failed to investigate or take action against the drug operabon because of a desire not to offend their Pakistani and Afghan allies. In 1993, an official of the DEA called Afghanistan the new Colombia of the drug world.

MlD-1980s to early 199Os, HAITI

While working to keep key Haitian military and political leaders in power, the CIA turned a blind eye to their clients’ drug trafficking. In 1986, the Agency added some more names to its payroll by creating a new Haitian organization, the National Intelligence Service (SIN). SIN was purportedly created to fight the cocaine trade, though SIN officers themselves engaged in the trafficking, a trade aided and abetted by some of the Haitian military and political leaders.

William Blum is author of Killing Hope: U.S Military and CIA Interventions Since World War ll available from Common Courage Press, P.O. Box 702, Monroe, Maine, 04951

The original source of this article is revolutionradio.org
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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Ibex-Trismegistus]
    #24539835 - 08/08/17 07:15 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

That's exactly why Hamid Karzai was chosen by the American government to lead Afghanistan, he and his brother were major drug lords in the region.


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Re: The Marijuana Justice Act Introduced In Senate [Re: Doc9151]
    #24539861 - 08/08/17 07:23 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, saw something on the history channel about this shit the other night.

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