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Has The Stock Market Peaked?
#24499808 - 07/21/17 09:48 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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I really can't say, but I'd guess no. Calling a top seems hard and it's all some algorithm anymore. Central banks hold more stock than anyone, you have companies seemingly endlessly buying back their own shares with yet more debt. NFLX 183 AMZN 1020 where does the insanity end?
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24501046 - 07/22/17 03:55 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doesn't look like it. In fact, it looks like we're starting the next leg higher. Although volatility is unusually, even concerningly low. The algorithms are indecipherable, as there are thousands of them and no one really knows how they will work together under various circumstances. Flash crashes and overshooting on both the up and downside seem to be a foregone conclusion, but the market always has some sort of underlying bid to it, as there is a steady supply of new money constantly being put to work.
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: geokills]
#24501103 - 07/22/17 04:31 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/stock-market-crash-coming
Some decent points here.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-22/david-stockman-warns-markets-chuck-prince-moment-has-arrived-only-more-dangerous
"The market cap of the index as a whole rose from $17.7 trillion in January 2015 to $21.2 trillion at present, meaning that the FAANG's + M account for 40% of the entire gain."
https://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/are-us-equities-in-a-bubble
Beyond historic lack of volatility, not good.
I personally believe the stock market is in the final stages of the bull market and it should peak sometime in late 2017, with the declines starting in early 2018.
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: qman]
#24502255 - 07/23/17 07:31 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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What's largely not being reported is the collapse of the nuclear companies. Westinghouse is supposedly owned by Toshiba, yet can declare bankruptcy separately? Toshiba who is also bankrupt with the debt from Westinghouse and hasn't reported earnings for quite some time. Toshiba is on the verge of being delisted. They are trying to sell their chip business to make up some of the nuclear loss but it's not going to be enough. GE is also in this business and their stock keeps falling now on its way to likely 22. CBI went from 33 to 13 recently with their lies about the mox fuel progress in S.Car.
Along with the companies going belly up with nuclear dying, the Pacific Ocean collapse to anyone paying much attention is alarming. As the oceans die and oxygen levels drop from plankton die off we are in real trouble. The salmon and steelhead numbers are dramatically lower than historically. 2015 had record escapement, yet the fish die off began in earnest 5 years after Fukushima. Fukushima is like thousands of Chernobyls yet gets virtually no press coverage. OK we saw the fuel surrounded by the water they keep dumping on it that goes into the ocean, so what? And BTW those fuel pools were burned up in the initial event and spread into the atmosphere. This has been proven by FOIA documents.
No ecology, no economy. The PTB can continue to loot and plunder but if everything is toxic then it's game over for them too.
This stock market has reached epic levels driven by huge gains in a few big cap stocks, and "financial engineering" of earnings and buybacks along with central bank buying assures more gains. Escalator up, elevator down.
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: geokills]
#24506653 - 07/25/17 07:26 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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geokills said: Doesn't look like it. In fact, it looks like we're starting the next leg higher. Although volatility is unusually, even concerningly low. The algorithms are indecipherable, as there are thousands of them and no one really knows how they will work together under various circumstances. Flash crashes and overshooting on both the up and downside seem to be a foregone conclusion, but the market always has some sort of underlying bid to it, as there is a steady supply of new money constantly being put to work.
VIX ready to go under 9?
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24509689 - 07/26/17 03:05 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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geokills said: Doesn't look like it. In fact, it looks like we're starting the next leg higher. Although volatility is unusually, even concerningly low. The algorithms are indecipherable, as there are thousands of them and no one really knows how they will work together under various circumstances. Flash crashes and overshooting on both the up and downside seem to be a foregone conclusion, but the market always has some sort of underlying bid to it, as there is a steady supply of new money constantly being put to work.
VIX ready to go under 9?
Hit 8.84 low today then closed at 9.6. Interesting action.
Well I officially give up on "valuation" when it has reached the retard level of overvalued. AMZN in particular is an annoying overpriced pig that keeps getting lipstick on it almost every day. I hate NFLX and TSLA for similar reasons. Pump pump pump.
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: LunarEclipse] 1
#24512556 - 07/27/17 07:01 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its qe money being recycled back into the market, thats whats keeping it up and what drove it up so high in the first place. With normal investment it would have peaked way back at maybe 10,000 dow max and may have dropped from that by now. Stock prices have little relation to earnings right now, imo.
Fukushima is a major factor in the world, it is strange the media ignores it. But the media has been crooked for a long time and can no longer be trusted. We are being fed a rosy picture, told all is well, the future looks bright if they can only get rid of trump, lol.
I figure it will start with panic. Some sector of the economy will have a big fall, the rot will spread and whole countries will go under. Banks closing and stock markets the world over crashing. Major company after company will declare large losses, many will go under as the sheep run and the big shots run too.
The reason for the rosy scenario we constantly get fed is to stave off the day of reckoning. As long as possible they want to milk the cow. Talk about the pacific being poisoned may ruin people's day, so no talk about that. Little to no talk about europe's financial difficulties, same reason. Just keep your eyes peeled and when it looks like the insiders are even thinking about reducing their holdings, its time to get out.
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: Stonehenge]
#24514786 - 07/28/17 07:40 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fukushima is the greatest ecological catastrophe in human history. Toshiba/Westinghouse/CBI/GE are all going bankrupt, or should, but we the tax payers will bail them out. Watch and see. The cover up of the catastrophe is under penalty of law in Japan, and any media outlet who dares to cover it will be history too. I even risk something mentioning it. If curious, check out the nuclear activist Kevin Blanch on youtube.
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24514906 - 07/28/17 08:27 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't eat any fish caught in the pacific. I can see them mislabeling fish soon if they haven't started already. That may be one of the reasons for the coverup. Its not only bigger than chernobyl its not over, its ongoing on a daily basis and they seemingly can't do anything about it and have no plans to really do anything about it. They talked about an ice shield, didn't work, talked about a lot of things but its still melting down or will if they ever quit pouring water on it. The water goes right back into the ocean. Enlil will tell you its no big deal, he read it in the news.
Its so hot even robots get burned and fail trying to work in there. World court should fine them about a trillion dollars if not more for what happened which was all totally foreseeable.
How are we going to power all those electric cars they want us to have without building more nukes and having more catastrophes?
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: Stonehenge]
#24514965 - 07/28/17 08:51 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Don't eat any fish caught in the pacific. I can see them mislabeling fish soon if they haven't started already. That may be one of the reasons for the coverup. Its not only bigger than chernobyl its not over, its ongoing on a daily basis and they seemingly can't do anything about it and have no plans to really do anything about it. They talked about an ice shield, didn't work, talked about a lot of things but its still melting down or will if they ever quit pouring water on it. The water goes right back into the ocean. Enlil will tell you its no big deal, he read it in the news.
Its so hot even robots get burned and fail trying to work in there. World court should fine them about a trillion dollars if not more for what happened which was all totally foreseeable.
How are we going to power all those electric cars they want us to have without building more nukes and having more catastrophes?
I hope the last paragraph was sarcastic. If so, give you a 95%.
Nuclear consumes far more energy than if ever produced. The entire purpose was/is to produce nuclear weapons. The Navy is "practicing" with depleted uranium weapons in the Pacific. I mean, this stuff will basically NEVER go away. Enlil is CIA. That's why he has a spot on here and will NEVER go away.
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Re: Has The Stock Market Peaked? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24515733 - 07/29/17 09:08 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually it was a bit sarcastic, I think the electric car deal is a dead end. Someone has not thought things through. All that electricity has to be produced with coal, oil, gas or nukes. All of which have pollution and risks. I see people saying put solar on your roof and you can charge up for free. That has been available for years and has not caught on much because its not economically feasible yet without govt handouts.
You can be locked up in japan for telling the truth about the meltdown, as you said. Poor japan is basically a nuke waste dump now, and an ongoing environmental disaster. Not sure what you mean about nukes consuming more energy than produced. The long term waste and constant risk of meltdown and fallout or terror attacks is what makes them no good, imo.
Meanwhile the fed is furiously pumping qe money into the stock market which does few people any good. Rather than btc being overvalued, I think the stock market is overvalued a lot.
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