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UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040
    #24509461 - 07/26/17 03:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So the UK government has just released plans to ban the sale of all conventional combustion engines in cars and vans by 2040 in a bid to reduce air pollution.

2040 is only 23 years away and we are far from ready at this stage for such a big transition. Electric car sales are still a drop in the ocean compared to conventional car sales. Not to mention the fact that only around 8% of drivers in Britain have said they would ever consider buying an electric vehicle.

The change in infrastructure that is going to be needed to accomplish this will be huge. Charging points are nearly non existent across the entire country and most electric cars in circulation today can only travel between 40 and 200 miles on a single charge.

As a self proclaimed petrol head, I do not look forward to the day that I have to trade in my high performance petrol engines for a soul less battery powered piece of crap.

New diesel and petrol vehicles to be banned from 2040 in UK

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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Bubbles85]
    #24509507 - 07/26/17 03:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Meh, you don't have to buy a "soul less battery powered piece of crap".

Tesla Model S is now the world's quickest car.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24509514 - 07/26/17 03:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Robots are going to be driving the majority of vehicles in the near future, they don't care what they drive.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24509534 - 07/26/17 04:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Meh, you don't have to buy a "soul less battery powered piece of crap".

Tesla Model S is now the world's quickest car.



That's great, but how many miles can this thing travel before the battery's flat and you're waiting around for hours for it to charge? That's not a worry with conventional vehicle's.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Bubbles85]
    #24509539 - 07/26/17 04:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

About 350 miles, and it charges in about an hour and fifteen minutes.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #24509551 - 07/26/17 04:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Plus you can get the solar powered battery station thing now for your home, and eliminate your utility bill and your share of coal burnt.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #24509558 - 07/26/17 04:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Meh, I'm already solar as fuck, bro.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Enlil]
    #24509564 - 07/26/17 04:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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About 350 miles, and it charges in about an hour and fifteen minutes.



From a quick online search the S3 only has a predicted range of 215 miles on a single charge. :shrug:

You're also missing some important info about how these cars will reach full charge in one hour. For the 40 million motorists on Britain's road's, that is simply un achievable today.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Bubbles85] * 1
    #24509569 - 07/26/17 04:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You got 23 years to make it achievable.  :smirk:


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Bubbles85]
    #24509570 - 07/26/17 04:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No one is talking about the model 3, dude.  He's talking about the model S.  I'm confident that Musk will be glad to put supercharger stations all around the UK, too.  He's got a few years before this ban takes effect.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #24509574 - 07/26/17 04:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You got 23 years to make it achievable.  :smirk:



That's true. I'm open to the concept. Curious to see what unfolds in that time frame regarding the infrastructure changes needed etc more than any thing.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Bubbles85]
    #24509577 - 07/26/17 04:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't even think it's much of an issue in your little island country.  Not a whole lot of you drive more than 350 miles/day, and it can charge overnight at your home.  Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy. 

I won't miss gasoline or diesel, per se, but I will absolutely miss manual transmissions.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Enlil]
    #24509580 - 07/26/17 04:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder how long we'll be allowed to continue to operate combustion engine vehicles in general once theyre in the minority.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Enlil]
    #24509592 - 07/26/17 04:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well, all we can do is wait and see I guess. I think I will definitely miss the conventional combustion engine. If not for the sound more than any thing else.

On a side note, Norway have pledged to ban the sale of these cars by 2025.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #24509596 - 07/26/17 04:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

In the U.S., for a long, long time. 

Some things aren't going to easily convert.  Trucking and ships are going to be using combustion engines for awhile.  Ships can convert to nuclear, I suppose, but people are going to have to warm up to that idea a bit.  Trains can convert fairly easily since they're already electric and will just need power transmission added to the tracks.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Bubbles85]
    #24509599 - 07/26/17 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If not for the sound more than any thing else.





The sound is my least favorite part.  That's why I'm converting a vehicle to electric right now...to make it silent.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24509601 - 07/26/17 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I wonder how long we'll be allowed to continue to operate combustion engine vehicles in general once theyre in the minority.



Good question. The plans are only to ban the sale of any new conventional cars by 2040, not to remove them from the roads entirely.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Bubbles85]
    #24509602 - 07/26/17 04:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

fal, if you own a stock vehicle from say, the 1960s, that has no catalytic converter, are you allowed to operate that vehicle in CA? Or are you forced to modify it to adhere to emission standards?


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: Enlil]
    #24509605 - 07/26/17 04:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If not for the sound more than any thing else.





The sound is my least favorite part.  That's why I'm converting a vehicle to electric right now...to make it silent.



To each their own.


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Re: UK Government To Ban The Sale Of All Conventional Petrol And Diesel Vans And Cars By 2040 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #24509618 - 07/26/17 04:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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fal, if you own a stock vehicle from say, the 1960s, that has no catalytic converter, are you allowed to operate that vehicle in CA? Or are you forced to modify it to adhere to emission standards?



No modification necessary.  Pre-1976 vehicles don't need to be smogged.


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