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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #24513594 - 07/28/17 08:52 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Illegally obtained evidence won't be admitted.


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: growlingmycelium]
    #24513632 - 07/28/17 09:18 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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growlingmycelium said:
Whats a VPN? whats a virtual computer that goes through a roving proxy? whats a PO box with a false ID?

jeez! I wish I knew how to crime! :trollmove:





What's a roving proxy?


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: tdubz]
    #24513634 - 07/28/17 09:19 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Uh ok except that the U.S. can tap every single electronic device you own if they suspect you are ordering drugs through the mail to deal.




They'll never tap my ipod.


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24513992 - 07/28/17 01:05 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

If they tapped every suspected device of drug activity they would miss a lot of extreme criminal activity, as well as waste human resource, time, and money.

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Enlil]
    #24514020 - 07/28/17 01:19 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Enlil said:
Illegally obtained evidence won't be admitted.




That's only if you can afford a lawyer. What was it, 95% of cases don't even go to trial?

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Kryptos]
    #24514027 - 07/28/17 01:25 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

What does one have to do with the other?


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Kryptos]
    #24514030 - 07/28/17 01:25 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Most drug cases don't go to trial, though I doubt it's that high.


Sad thing is they lure you into a plea with the "they will max you out" threat.

Its a good idea if you are doing anything that will land you in prison for a long time to keep lawyer money set aside, though it's not always possible.

Trial has a lot of variables on both ends, and paying for a good trial attorney can really cost you duckets. The court system isn't an easy one to navigate through.

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Enlil]
    #24514048 - 07/28/17 01:36 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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What does one have to do with the other?




Plea deal based on fear, even if the DA doesn't have teeth?

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Kryptos]
    #24514063 - 07/28/17 01:43 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

That's why there's an appointed lawyer...to file that motion to suppress.


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Enlil]
    #24514093 - 07/28/17 01:57 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Through all my court hearings ive never once had a court appointes lawyer file a motion to suppress. On this case my original public defender said she would, and then they suddenly took her off the case. In 8 months I've had 3 different attorneys all by their choice not mine. My most recent Publix defender whom I took the plea with might as well have been the prosecution.


I never seem to get a lawyer that fights for me unless I drop the loot, and on this case I had a case but no money. This one is gonna really hurt me too, especially because of my past.


Im not knocking public defenders as much as I am my luck and decisions.

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #24514599 - 07/28/17 06:19 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
All necessary precautions were taken,the friends name was the name of the person at address, packaging is legit, and the package did arrive. To all saying don't ship drugs, how in the hell do you think you get the privilege to use them without manufacturing, and if you manufacture you have equal risks with just a horrid fate if caught. Just glad it showed without any problems.




Hence why i'm on this website? I'm not saying don't ship but fuck... 700 dollars worth of work for how many grand if something goes wrong? Where I'm from we have a saying, Felonies ain't free. How long are you willing to go down even it's a 2% chance to make a G, maybe 3? That's up to you man.


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: growlingmycelium]
    #24514632 - 07/28/17 06:35 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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did you know common mylar from a dollar store balloon reflects all X ray spectrum used by law enforcement? -_-

:canthelpbutlaugh:



Source?

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: MagicMush123]
    #24514657 - 07/28/17 06:45 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

@_@ i'll give it a google.

https://www.orcagrowfilm.com/Articles.asp?ID=151
Found this explanation of mylar reflective photo film

Here is what mylar photo film looks like,
https://www.ebay.com/i/272619038543?chn=ps&dispItem=1

Different qualities exist and I just learnt me that the dollar store balloon is not as good as photo quality that reflects 94% of spectrum.


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #24516310 - 07/29/17 02:25 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Oh my god, seriously just go and pick up your package. I've picked up an absolute shitload of drug packages at the post office, and not once did anything bad happen.

The misinformation in this thread is unbelievable. You'd think that none of you had ever bought drugs through the mail before.

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #24518473 - 07/30/17 04:05 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

public defender = public pretender


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: NothingsChanged] * 1
    #24520711 - 07/31/17 03:22 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

One thing people usually fuck up with illegal packages is checking the shipment progress with their real IP. If you've tried to track it without a VPN or whatever you've already fucked yourself assuming they found out what it was.


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #24522545 - 08/01/17 10:39 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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One thing people usually fuck up with illegal packages is checking the shipment progress with their real IP. If you've tried to track it without a VPN or whatever you've already fucked yourself assuming they found out what it was.




I am not certain about this, and would like some sort of source. I mean, logically, yeah, it makes sense. Checking the tracking on a package is gonna undermine the whole "huh? what package? I didn't order no package!" defense.

However, logically and legally are two very different things. I haven't heard of anyone going down for computer records of checking tracking, and I figure it would make at least a moderately sized news headline at least the first few times it happens.

Enlil?

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Kryptos]
    #24522607 - 08/01/17 11:07 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

It's theoretically possible, but the reality is that it's very unlikely.  Certainly, it wouldn't be enough for a conviction on it's own. 

FACT:  The use of IP information in a criminal prosecution is still very rare in this country.


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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Enlil]
    #24523371 - 08/01/17 06:44 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I remember reading about a few cases where alibis have been disproved and people have gone to prison before over cellphone location records.

Could a prosecutor use IP info similarly? Hypothetical:

Package is seized, guy checks tracking, cops shop up, ask if he ordered this package, guy says no, gets arrested and charged anyway because of overzealous police/prosecution or whatever. Goes to trial, prosecutor puts cop on stand, asks:
"did this guy say anything about the package?"
"Yes, he said he didn't order it and had no idea what it was"
Prosecutor brings computer expert on stand:
"did this guy make any sort of indication that he knew that the package was going to arrive?"
"Yes, he checked the tracking two days beforehand"
Prosecutor proceeds to destroy credibility of defendant based on that and gets conviction.

No other evidence (apart from the package full of droogs).

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Re: losing my shit over a pack [Re: Kryptos]
    #24523381 - 08/01/17 06:49 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I've read news stories in the past where they use the fact a defendant's IP was logged by USPS attempting to track seized package as evidence. Granted that alone probably won't get your door kicked in, it still will be another nail in your coffin. I mean you can't exactly claim ignorance when they've got you using the tracking number from your home's private internet among other things.


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