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Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva 5
#24495513 - 07/20/17 03:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is my first time working with this wonderful species, and I have to say they are awesome to view. Below are a couple of pics of a much better 2nd flush. The first flush was unfortunately badly neglected due to a family emergency. But after rehydration of the substrate and casing layer, they bounced back pretty nicely.
  
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24495523 - 07/20/17 03:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy shit dude! I think that may be the best grow I've ever seen with that species. Damn good work.
Did you do a grow log by chance?
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#24495537 - 07/20/17 03:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for the kind words. I think it can be better and I plan on working with these guys a bit more. I have some cloned material colonizing agar as we speak from the 1st flush. Plus I'm going to experiment a bit with bulk substrate composition. Those were just grown in pp5 containers using simple BRF cake sub inoculated via LI. Sorry no grow log but I do have a shit ton of pictures.
They are a wonderful species for sure. I look forward to working with them.
Edited by Peacefrog (07/20/17 03:51 AM)
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24495785 - 07/20/17 07:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Germs]
#24495858 - 07/20/17 08:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gorgeous man! Love this species.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mushpunx]
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mustangbob3] 1
#24496372 - 07/20/17 01:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks again for all the many nice comments!
mushpunx, The substrate was BRF cake material sterilized in a small pp5 container. I had no idea if that would be a good sub for them, but decided to give it a go. I have read about TCO's adventures with them using the same formula, substituting ground hulled millet in place of the BRF. And I had an agar jar that exploded with primordia very quickly. So I thought if they will form primordia on agar, they might be good on just about any grain source.
My next trials with them is to try a few different combinations of bulk sub recipes. I have read that they naturally grow on humus soils so I am going to try:
Some material from of my wife's organic compost pile Feild composted horse manure Coir Verm Gypsum Black Kow
I plan on trying many different combinations just to see.
I will also continue to test my clones as well probably on BRF cake material while I find a good sub.
Anyway, it's been a fun species to work with so far just slow as hell.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24496402 - 07/20/17 01:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah I see you already said that above, I was confused. So you broke it up and cased it? It seems it worked quite well!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mushpunx]
#24496479 - 07/20/17 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very nice.
I hear that they like straw too.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LotKid]
#24496509 - 07/20/17 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did not break them up. I made up the BRF and sterilized in in the pp5 containers and nocked up with LI from an MS agar wedge via the good old blender tek. Then cased with pasteurized 50/50+ after they were fully colonized. Yes it surprisingly did ok but I have seen better grows online than what I have done. But I did completly neglect them for about 12 days total. So I am surprised they even fruited at all. I was expecting tric city when I came home from being away for so long. Here is the horrible first flush:

LotKid, thanks for the advice. I thought about incorporating some straw as well. I probably will. I usually just use straw for oysters but I may have to throw some in there.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24496524 - 07/20/17 02:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That first flush looks like more than enough for a good time... super jealous. Do these require a casing layer?
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24496530 - 07/20/17 02:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did you see saralove's? She said she did them on simple straw and compost. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24391016#24391016
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LotKid]
#24496563 - 07/20/17 03:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm gunna have to look out for these spores, see what I can do with them
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mushpunx]
#24496611 - 07/20/17 03:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I recently had someone kick me some that I wasn't expecting. It was pretty cool of them. Haven't been able to start playing with them yet tho.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24496617 - 07/20/17 03:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Careful with black kow, the bag i got had chloride something in it an chokes out plant roots
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LotKid]
#24496930 - 07/20/17 06:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mushpunx]
#24496954 - 07/20/17 06:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: I'm gunna have to look out for these spores, see what I can do with them
I just got 12 wild prints of this specie all the way from Australia in the mail today. Sara throws some "green" composted materials in all her grows. I like that idea. I think it makes sense to use a manure/straw/compost susbtrate seeng has how these things grow on wombat dung in the wild, and wombats eat bark, roots, and grasses.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LemurLemur]
#24496961 - 07/20/17 06:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes I saw her grow. They were some beautiful specimens and a damn great grow from her. She is quite a talented photographer as well.
mushpunx, shoot me a pm if you want some spores, as soon as get some anyway. The first flush, I harvested a little early it appears and didn't get one print.
LotKid, you will like them I think once you start working with um. An awesome buddy and member here very generously sent me some prints. They are actually very easy to grow. They are very comparable to cubes in their speed in vegetative growth. But once fruiting is initiated, everything seems to go in slow motion. Expect 3 weeks minimum until the first pins appear (at least that was my experience) and then they grow SO slow. I haven't tried any yet, but have heard they are quite potent. Perhaps more so than pans (my go to active). I don't know, I hope I can give um a try soon.
They are also very meaty, not hollow at all.
Thanks again for all of the kind words.
Edited by Peacefrog (07/20/17 06:14 PM)
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LemurLemur]
#24496968 - 07/20/17 06:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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LemurLemur said: Careful with black kow, the bag i got had chloride something in it an chokes out plant roots
Yea, you have to leech the crap (no pun intended) out of some black Kow manure before it's viable to bring near a mushroom culture.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: hamloaf]
#24496986 - 07/20/17 06:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah she uses compost from a pile in her garden. She does some serious exotic work. A manure/straw/compost sub was my plan for when I can get mine going. I just hope I can get the spores to germ, I think the print I got might be a couple years old. Once I order some more plates I'll find out.
So peacefrog, looks like a few of us agree on throwing some straw into the mix. 
The fact that their grow parameters are similar to cubes really caught my attention. As far as their speed, all my recent work has been PE so I'm used to fruiting taking a lil longer.
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They are very strong though IME. I don't eat them anymore, but from a long time ago I say as strong as Psilocybe semilanceata. So err on the side caution.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LotKid]
#24496997 - 07/20/17 06:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I will definitely have to throw some straw in. I already have a full bale chopped up in my shed begging for some spawn lol.
I love wheat straw personally and used to use it exclusively as bulk for cubes. But these days I have a great hook up with a horse farm and I get all the field composted hpoo I could ever need. So I usually save it for my oyster cultures.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog] 1
#24513986 - 07/28/17 01:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The other container that was a little slower to start the 2nd flush:
  
This seems to be a very hardy species that grows very easily, but slowly. Very resistant to competitors as well it seems. Those were cased on May the 20th. No signs of the green monster what so ever to this date.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24513989 - 07/28/17 01:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Peacefrog said: The other container that was a little slower to start the 2nd flush:
  
This seems to be a very hardy species that grows very easily, but slowly. Very resistant to competitors as well it seems. Those were cased on May the 20th. No signs of the green monster what so ever to this date.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Germs]
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LotKid]
#24514021 - 07/28/17 01:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nicely done peacefrog!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: eatyualive]
#24514123 - 07/28/17 02:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yowza!
Have you eaten any of these? Are they potent?
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mushpunx]
#24514125 - 07/28/17 02:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Mycolorado]
#24514685 - 07/28/17 06:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks again for the nice words.
I haven't tried them yet. I don't visit the psilocybin world much these days. I just love cultivation. However, I do want to try um sometime soon. And I hear they are quite potent. A buddy of mine says they are possibly stronger than pans (which if I do ingest psilocybin mushrooms, are my favorite to date). So I'm sure I'll give um a go at some point in the near future, to see for myself.
I just want to play around with them a bit to see if I can find a good isolate/clone to see what I get from them. An isolate that can produce canopies would be nice lol.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog] 1
#24560966 - 08/17/17 05:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update on these trials:
In my quest to find a good substrate, I chose to do mini grows in order to try as many different combinations as I have room for at the moment. I also am going for quick results, so I'm using LI into cake material and fruiting from 1/4 pint jelly jars. I am using the best clone that I took so all will be consistent. I am probably going to try many more variations and/or mixtures to see.
For this first trial, I am using BRF (as my grain source), verm and gypsum in all the cake material. My trial recipes are as follows:
1). Black Kow 2). Black Kow/Wheat Straw 3). Horse Manue Compost 4). Horse Manue Compost/Wheat Straw 5). Organic Compost from my back yard 6). Organic Compost from my back yard/Wheat Straw 7). Plain Wheat Straw

At the 7 day mark after inoculating, they all are colonizing very well.
Surprisingly enough to me, most of the substrates with straw are colonizing faster then the ones without (thanks LotKid for advising use straw). And the straight wheat straw is soaring past them all. The same amount of grain source, and LI were used here, and again a known clone that I have been working with a little bit. I guess it could be the fluffiness of the straw making a more airy and easier material to colonize at a rapid rate.
Obviously the vote isn't anywhere near in on the best substrate for this clone/species, but so far straw is kicking ass and taking names lol.
Straight straw:

Organic Compost/Straw:

Organic Compost:

Horse Manure Compost/Straw:

Horse Manure Compost:

Black Kow/Straw:

Black Kow:

I will update as soon as they start pinning. This will be a few weeks.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24560980 - 08/17/17 05:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very nice!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mynakedrat]
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Germs]
#24561220 - 08/17/17 06:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24561707 - 08/17/17 11:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peacefrog said: Surprisingly enough to me, most of the substrates with straw are colonizing faster then the ones without (thanks LotKid for advising use straw).
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LotKid]
#24561713 - 08/17/17 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Straw is some shit ,like little myco highways.
Wait till u see it bust out the end of a peice like spiderman's web lol
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LemurLemur]
#24562010 - 08/18/17 07:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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glad i stumbled upon this thread!!! glad to see you're still working with these!
sending good vibes brother
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: GlitchInSpace]
#24562626 - 08/18/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whitethumb. Good to see you, bro.
I'm glad you stumbled upon this one too. This thread couldn't of happened with your very kind gesture of free spores! I owe you, brother man. I'm glad I'm working with them too. They really are a cool species to work with IMO.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24562958 - 08/18/17 02:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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no worries!!! these spores are in very capable hands!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: GlitchInSpace] 1
#24576272 - 08/24/17 10:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks WT!
Update: They have all fully colonized at the 15 day point.
Plain Straw: 9 days Organic Compost/Straw: 11 days Horse Manure Compost/Straw: 13 days Black Kow/Straw: 14 days Organic Compost: 12 days Horse Manure Compost: 14 days Black Cow: 15 days
I will give them a week consolidation, then case and top fruit.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24578156 - 08/25/17 02:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great job Peacefrog. Informative thread. Would deffinaty like to get my hands on these spores to work with soon. They have been out of stock for a few months now. Peace
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Direwolf77]
#24637102 - 09/17/17 05:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We have lift off; 22 days after casing the first pin has appeared in one jar.

This is on the horse manure only jar. But I see pins forming along the sides of every jar, so now for the fun part lol.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
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Peacefrog said: We have lift off; 22 days after casing the first pin has appeared in one jar.

This is on the horse manure only jar. But I see pins forming along the sides of every jar, so now for the fun part lol.
I will update accordingly.
Nice work, brother.  Yea, this species is a slow pinner. Last night I found a source for these genetics. I am going to order some later on today, so I hope to be joining in on the fun with you in the near future. Looking forward to your progress.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: hamloaf] 2
#24637260 - 09/17/17 07:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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These are definitely becoming a close 2nd on my favorite list. Behind pans.
They are so damn easy and contam resistant. I honesty think they are easier than cubes, just takes them so long to produce. And once they do, they mature in slow motion. But man are they potent! I finally had a chance to try um, 1.5 dried grams wow! A hard level 4 experience without a doubt. I think 2 g would have made me loose it haha. Very clean and euphoric like pans but a little different. Very visual at least for my first experience anyway. They are definitely worth the wait!
Thanks again for all who are watching this thread.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24637282 - 09/17/17 08:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice, my first experience trying these guys were 1 gram. they were very enjoyable at that dosage and they lasted for a long time.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: GlitchInSpace]
#24637314 - 09/17/17 08:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I need to get my spores to agar.
Nice work frog.
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#24673256 - 09/30/17 05:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update: So far the horse manure compost is kicking ass. The organic compost is a close second. The ones WITHOUT straw are producing the most abundant fruit. And sadly the black Kow jars and the plain straw one are doing nothing! Just primordia that have set there doing nothing for a couple of weeks. It appears straw might not be that great or needed in the substrate (at least for this clone anyway).
I inoculated 4 more jars with a combo of the horse manure and organic compost last week to test the 2 best subs so far. They are getting close to full colonization, so we will see.
I will document with pics when all is complete.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog] 1
#24690173 - 10/07/17 05:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So... update on the first flush:
Horse Manure Compost:
  
Horse Manure Compost/Straw:

Organic Compost:

Organic Compost/Straw:

And for the late bloomers: Black Kow:

Black Kow/Straw:

Plain Straw:

From these trials, it appears that the field composted horse manure is the clear winner, but I am in the process of trying a combination of that and the second runner up, Organic Compost. If this is good, I am moving to a mono or shoe box grow to really test it out.
And even though the straw substrates colonized faster, they didn't prove to me to be better in the end. I will leave out straw from now on.
Updates to come.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24690263 - 10/07/17 07:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice, Peacefrog!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Mycolorado]
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: bodhisatta]
#24690532 - 10/07/17 09:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those are beautiful!!
Will you be taking any prints from these?
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24690540 - 10/07/17 09:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nope, I have plenty of prints from previous grows.
Thanks for the kind words! I can't wait to see how this clone does in a mono. I am sterilizing grain as we speak.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24690544 - 10/07/17 10:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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you could have plenty more tho
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: bodhisatta]
#24690549 - 10/07/17 10:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's for sure. Those were throwing off some massive spores in the FC.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: bodhisatta]
#24690558 - 10/07/17 10:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I promise there are plenty of ppl here who would happily give one of those prints a home, lol.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24690568 - 10/07/17 10:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice work. Like the top fruit method, seems to hold lots of promise for species less robust than cubes. Rated 5
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24690601 - 10/07/17 10:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Again thanks for the kind words and ratings!
And I would be more than happy to share prints with the community. Just pm me if interested. These beauties are awesome to work with.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24690606 - 10/07/17 10:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Another great grow Peacefrog, thanks for sharing it with us!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mustangbob3]
#24743212 - 10/28/17 11:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just I thought I'd share these gnarly invitro specimens:  
I just decided to set one aside for shits and giggles and to see how they would perform without proper FAE.
I just got around to spawning a shoebox with horse manure compost, garden compost, verm and gypsum today. So in about a month or so, I'll hopefully have some more and better pics to share.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog] 2
#24834597 - 12/08/17 06:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Finally a proper bulk grow in a shoe box using 50/50 horse manure compost/organic compost. Not quite a canopy, so I’ve got some more work with this species to find that “perfect” culture. But this clone is still pretty decent IMO. I slanted this one, as it is definitely worth saving:
   
A couple of larger specimens:
 
And final wet weight of the first flush:

I have really fallen in love with this species and I hope to see other cultivators growing out these guys soon. And I have to give the credit to whitethumb for the very kind gesture of free spores. Without those spores, I’m sure I never would have had the chance to work with these guys. Again, thanks, brother man.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24834600 - 12/08/17 06:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow very nice man
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24834626 - 12/08/17 06:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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1st off, SICK GROW!!!!!
Any thing I should know about getting this species spore to germinate. I have had them on a plate for 2+ weeks.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24834634 - 12/08/17 07:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sick grow, Peacefrog!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Mycolorado]
#24834708 - 12/08/17 08:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Beautiful work!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24834777 - 12/08/17 09:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: LemurLemur]
#24834829 - 12/08/17 09:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice work! did you happen to slant a clone of a single fruit, or cluster? or was the slant of an lc? Just wondering. like i say to the ladies at the bar, "nice stems ya got thare, eh?"
most of the time it works all the time.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: mynakedrat]
#24834850 - 12/08/17 09:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’m two transfers in on these, hope to be to grains soon
 Nice grow once again Peacefrog
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Germs]
#24835505 - 12/09/17 09:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Crispykoot]
#24843866 - 12/13/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks all for the kind words.
No tricks needed IME for germination really. I just used standard PDA and saw germination on a average of 5 to 8 days. 2 weeks sounds like a while. Have they germinated yet?
I took about 10 or so clones, some from mature fruit and some agar pins. The best one, grown above, was one of the agar pins. I slanted it from agar.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24843878 - 12/13/17 12:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No they never germinated, and I tossed it a couple days ago. I did only make one plate and the agar could have been to hard. I will try swiping again to some softer agar. I will get them at some point, I just didn't know if they germinated better at a certain temp range. Like how I got some of my wood lovers to germinate by putting them in a cold part of the basement.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24843882 - 12/13/17 01:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gotcha, that makes sense.
Mine were kept at normal room temps.
I’m sure you’ll get um to germinate. I look forward to your and everyone else who is growing out these guys.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24845023 - 12/14/17 01:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cased with 50/50+?
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Primal Call]
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Quote:
Primal Call said: Cased with 50/50+?
Yes. I’m a peat guy personally. Just the way I learned and feel comfortable using as my casing material.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog] 1
#24855264 - 12/19/17 06:09 AM (7 years, 29 days ago) |
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Beautiful 2nd flush pinning now (and a couple remnants from the first flush):
   
It’s looking to be a good 2nd flush so far. Got to love these little guys lol.
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24856280 - 12/19/17 05:18 PM (7 years, 29 days ago) |
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Excited to see this one in person! Thanks frog!
Curious if you measured a wet:dry ratio with that 150 wet from above...?
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Primal Call] 1
#24871635 - 12/27/17 02:13 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Damn, I didn’t weigh them after they dried actually. I just threw them into long term storage with the others in the same sealed bag. But from my experience with um, they are the same as most higher cultivated fungi, so most likely 13-15 grams. Doesn’t sound like much, but they are so potent, that’s a lot of doses IMO. I only tried them once so far and 1.5 dried grams sent me flying. Comparable to ~4 grams of cubes. But that’s just me, I might be a light weight lol. And I rarely ingest psilocybin these days.
Last update on this log (2nd flush):
  
I am done with this grow but definitely not finished working with this species. I tossed the sub this morning after harvesting the 2nd flush due to needing the room for other projects.
I thank all who have pulled up a chair for this grow log, and all the helpful, kind and knowledgeable comments made by others along the way. And I do hope other growers take a liking to this particular species and grow um!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Peacefrog]
#24871657 - 12/27/17 02:25 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24871688 - 12/27/17 02:51 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Awesome, Peacefrog!!!
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Re: Trials with Ps. hoogshagenii var convexa semperviva [Re: Mycolorado]
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