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casing theory
    #2449085 - 03/18/04 10:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am really new at his, but I have a question about casing in general. From what I have read, the job of a casing is to offer no nutrients, and basically just protect the mycelium from contams, and stay moist.

If this is so, why does it matter what the casing layer is made up of, as long as the ph is correct? I mean, in theory, wouldn't a foam shavings be a good casing material, they are neutral and have no nutrients for contams to take hold and can hold moisture really well.

It is highly possible, and probably that i don't understand this whole casing thing, I would appreciate if someone out there with greater knowledge than myself could set me strait.

Thanks.


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Re: casing theory [Re: FirstAvailable]
    #2449140 - 03/18/04 10:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The casing layer needs to be able to hold water for the benefit of the mushies. The casing materials you read about provide the greatest amount of moisture without any nutrients to support bacterial growth. Experimentation with new materials is always encouraged but if you want to be assured some fruits then stick with peat moss, vermiculite, coir, or some combination thereof...


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Re: casing theory [Re: mockeylock]
    #2449284 - 03/18/04 11:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ahh, so the idea is to find a combo that can hold the most water?

what about like a bath sponge that has been shredded? That is designed to hold lotsa water, and has zero nutritional value.


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Re: casing theory [Re: FirstAvailable]
    #2449349 - 03/18/04 11:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would bet money it would work. Give it a try and post some pics....We'll be your best friend!


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Re: casing theory [Re: mockeylock]
    #2449481 - 03/18/04 11:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well, I am currently going through my first grow (Grow log here). Im already doing some relatively experimental stuff, considering its my first grow. I may do it my next grow.


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Re: casing theory [Re: FirstAvailable]
    #2449499 - 03/19/04 12:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Keep in mind that some sponges are dead sea sponges & as such probably have nutritional value. Dish sponges, though, may work well...


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Re: casing theory [Re: trouted]
    #2449564 - 03/19/04 12:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Keep in mind that some sponges are dead sea sponges & as such probably have nutritional value.  Dish sponges, though, may work well...




Yea, thats what I was talking about, like artificial styrofoam ones.

But dish sponges dont have a lot of "sponge" on them.  Bath sponges would give you more sponge for the buck :smile:


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Re: casing theory [Re: FirstAvailable]
    #2449592 - 03/19/04 12:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You want it to hold water but thats not the whole point of a casing. It needs to promote myc growth so you dont want it to be over saturated when you apply it. You want it to hold water and also let some air through. Get it too wet and its anaerobic and contams love it. Myc likes oxygen so give it a good squeeze when you apply it.

with sponge you will probably have to figure out how hard to squeeze it once you have added the water.

Didnt someone use sponge in place of the verm in a pf cake or did I dream that?


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Re: casing theory [Re: mickywilliams2]
    #2449611 - 03/19/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Didnt someone use sponge in place of the verm in a pf cake or did I dream that?




I remember someone used like glass insulation fiber instead of verm for both a pf cake and for some sort of casing, but that was for experimental perposes only, since that stuff will kill you if u eat it or breath it in.

It worked really well though, too bad it will cut your organs to shit if you ingest it or breath it in. :frown:

on that note, if anyone here used to watch Oz on HBO, remember when oriely and adabesey killed sabadka by putting crushed glass into his food?  and after a couple weeks he started puking blood and died.  that was awsome.


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