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gymnopolis species or galerina?
    #24483384 - 07/14/17 05:29 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)



habitat: found in some grassy woody area at the edge of my lawn near some dead stumps. They grew in overlapping clusters. Warm weather 65-70F, big rain storm the last couple days and these popped up.

They look alot like the pictures of local gymnopolis sp that grows here. (Southern coastal alaska). I'm spore printing them now.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: CraterBait]
    #24483395 - 07/14/17 05:33 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Pholiota


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #24483417 - 07/14/17 05:42 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I've never heard of those before. I was so certain they were gymns. What is a distinguishing difference I can use in the future?


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: CraterBait]
    #24483474 - 07/14/17 06:09 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

man I can totally empathize with you---- I go thru a "man, I swear these are gyms" find every week or so---- drives me nutty.

thanks doc for keeping our intestinal sanctuaries a little safer.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #24483491 - 07/14/17 06:17 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Man I've never paid by attention to wild shrooms in alaska but the 4 listed species I swear to god I see them, or similar looking ones all the time. This is so exciting :laugh:

I'll find gymns eventually. The biggest bummer was there were so many there I was clenching my cheeks in anticipation.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: CraterBait]
    #24483501 - 07/14/17 06:20 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Gyms are nasty anyways...

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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: Bird_Guts]
    #24483506 - 07/14/17 06:22 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

no way dude----gyms rule----ill munch a half oz of gyms and mango anytime.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #24483699 - 07/14/17 08:06 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Gymns are a novelty. Last time I had them I farted non stop for like 4 hours.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24483744 - 07/14/17 08:32 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Gymns are a novelty. Last time I had them I farted non stop for like 4 hours.



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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #24484386 - 07/15/17 03:11 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Pholiota




I had to do alot of reading, although I'm not extremely certain how to differentiate pholiota from galerina. (that according to literature is easilly confusable with half the damn actives in this state!)

What I was able to learn was that pholiota has an apical germ pore, which neither galerina nore gymnopolis do.

From all the lit I've read galerinas have smooth and sometimes warty spores. Though I can differentiate p cyanacense due to spore print + germ pore, the 3 should be easy enough to distinguish with a microscope.

I'm wondering how you were able to identify it as pholiota so easily. They both appear to have a shaggy stipe, scales on the cap, and the color seems about right this early on. Ik pholiota caps get quite scaly and become more pale with age.

Give me knowledge \o/


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #24484553 - 07/15/17 07:05 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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no way dude----gyms rule----ill munch a half oz of gyms and mango anytime.





As a cultivator I've gotten pretty picky, its a luxury that comes with the skill.
I would still be quite excited to find Gyms though!
Don't think I would eat them however. Maybe print them and grow them for the novelty.

Are they typically weak or moderate potency wise?
Aren't they bitter?


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: mushpunx]
    #24484604 - 07/15/17 07:51 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't think they were bitter. In fact I kind of enjoyed the taste. However I wouldn't munch them, I make a tea.

Gymns are exciting to find. Any actives are fun to find. Like panaeolus fimicola the contents can vary greatly from almost none at all to almost half the strength of cubes.

I have had decent trips from gymns but I used a whole batch I found to make tea then drank it. Flavor wasn't bad. Trip was mild and mellow.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24484610 - 07/15/17 07:53 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Also if they aren't super fresh I won't pick them. If they're starting to look like they've been there a while I usually just leave them. I have taken just the little ones most of the time.

In Massachusetts they tend to be chock full of maggots by the time they're full grown.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: CraterBait]
    #24484616 - 07/15/17 07:56 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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doctorghosty said:
Pholiota




I had to do alot of reading, although I'm not extremely certain how to differentiate pholiota from galerina. (that according to literature is easilly confusable with half the damn actives in this state!)

What I was able to learn was that pholiota has an apical germ pore, which neither galerina nore gymnopolis do.

From all the lit I've read galerinas have smooth and sometimes warty spores. Though I can differentiate p cyanacense due to spore print + germ pore, the 3 should be easy enough to distinguish with a microscope.

I'm wondering how you were able to identify it as pholiota so easily. They both appear to have a shaggy stipe, scales on the cap, and the color seems about right this early on. Ik pholiota caps get quite scaly and become more pale with age.

Give me knowledge \o/




Gyms are never that coarsely scaly and never have that shaggy a stipe


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #24485464 - 07/15/17 03:40 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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doctorghosty said:
Quote:

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doctorghosty said:
Pholiota




I had to do alot of reading, although I'm not extremely certain how to differentiate pholiota from galerina. (that according to literature is easilly confusable with half the damn actives in this state!)

What I was able to learn was that pholiota has an apical germ pore, which neither galerina nore gymnopolis do.

From all the lit I've read galerinas have smooth and sometimes warty spores. Though I can differentiate p cyanacense due to spore print + germ pore, the 3 should be easy enough to distinguish with a microscope.

I'm wondering how you were able to identify it as pholiota so easily. They both appear to have a shaggy stipe, scales on the cap, and the color seems about right this early on. Ik pholiota caps get quite scaly and become more pale with age.

Give me knowledge \o/




Gyms are never that coarsely scaly and never have that shaggy a stipe





Awesome >=]

I also read that gymns have a pinkish discoloration when cut open. If I think I've spotted a gym i'll cut it open, look at the spores, before posting. Having a good process of elimination gives me a good adventure.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: mushpunx]
    #24485470 - 07/15/17 03:45 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Ive laughed my ass off----no farts, granted Im a strict vegetarian---Ive laughed my ass off for hours eating good gyms...In fact dude, Ive dosed spectabilis and had the most comedic, gut wrenching laugh filled trip of my life....

Ill take anyones active gyms, fart em over this way.

I usually gotta eat 8-12 grams. But...I dont mind.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #24485738 - 07/15/17 06:09 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for that :laugh:

I like to cultivate myself, but hunting down wild shrooms and experiencing it seems like a swell adventure.

Have you tried ps cyanascens? Those grow here later in the season, and I've beem told they can be real ass kickers.


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: CraterBait]
    #24485747 - 07/15/17 06:15 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Of course, check out my pics---Im well seasoned and always have some jar fulls on hand, North Georgia is the place to be for Southern pickers.....

Keep on huntin, and documentin, and havin fun man!


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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: mushpunx]
    #24485853 - 07/15/17 07:18 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Aren't they typically week or moderate potency wise?
Aren't they bitter?
You might call them weak if comparing with Psilocybe and species by weight  But they are extremely effective when you eat enough  but they are extremely effective when you eat enough. You will not call them week if you eat 100g fresh 10g dry and half that Will provide a mild taste
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Re: gymnopolis species or galerina? [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24486693 - 07/16/17 06:40 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Also if they aren't super fresh I won't pick them. If they're starting to look like they've been there a while I usually just leave them. I have taken just the little ones most of the time.

In Massachusetts they tend to be chock full of maggots by the time they're full grown.




You know I swear I've seen them in the woods on Cape Cod before


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