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Wiretapping gone mad
    #24464604 - 07/07/17 11:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It seems the govt has quietly erased most of the 4th amendment protections against govt snooping into our private papers. In on single drug investigation they intercepted over 3 million phone conversations. Must have been a major case with national security implications? Nope, not a single conviction resulted from this massive snooping operation. They just wanted to look around. With secret fisa courts rubber stamping warrants, one warrant alone can let them do whatever they wish it seems.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170703/09283937713/govt-intercepted-millions-conversations-single-drug-investigation-netted-zero-convictions.shtml

US authorities intercepted and recorded millions of phone calls last year under a single wiretap order, authorized as part of a narcotics investigation.
The wiretap order authorized an unknown government agency to carry out real-time intercepts of 3.29 million cell phone conversations over a two-month period at some point during 2016, after the order was applied for in late 2015.


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Stonehenge]
    #24464615 - 07/07/17 11:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:facepalm3:

dammit


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: McGrimm]
    #24465483 - 07/07/17 05:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well it's probably security for the CIA coke smuggling.  There are probably 3 million smaller dealers their tons of cocaine trickle down to.  It's called opsec.


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #24466081 - 07/07/17 09:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Konyap] * 3
    #24466096 - 07/07/17 09:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Our government would never violate our constitutional rights.


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: sunshine]
    #24466117 - 07/07/17 09:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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sunshine said:
Our government would never violate our constitutional rights.




:rofl:


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Stonehenge]
    #24466129 - 07/07/17 09:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

How is this even possible?


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24466138 - 07/07/17 09:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It's possible because no one will stop them. Checks and balances is dead.


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24466140 - 07/07/17 09:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It sounds time consuming, millions of phone calls


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24466168 - 07/07/17 10:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

not really have you read any of the edward snowden wikileaks
specifically the spy catalogues
they put these things on your telephone line if they suspect you of torrenting basically

they can just go to an ISP
dig up the line
put a recorder on it that can record hundreds of thousands of calls at once for pennies


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24466170 - 07/07/17 10:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I am going to start talking shit over the phone.


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: sunshine]
    #24466184 - 07/07/17 10:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yes and the Uribe election was not illegal.


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24466221 - 07/07/17 10:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Guess I should stop answering my phone with "Dirka dirka, Jihad Mohammed Allah"

:shrug:


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #24466257 - 07/07/17 10:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Random but I like answering the phone for telemarketers because I always pretend I'm an Indian telemarketer. The confusion is amazing.


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #24466541 - 07/08/17 01:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This is yet another conspiracy people have been denying for a long time before wikileaks.

Just like the DEA working with cartels. Hell many people still seem surpised when told that...


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: musiclover420]
    #24466596 - 07/08/17 02:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

musiclover420 said:
This is yet another conspiracy people have been denying for a long time before wikileaks.

Just like the DEA working with cartels. Hell many people still seem surpised when told that...




we've been telling them that for forty years!!


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Konyap]
    #24466639 - 07/08/17 02:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Honestly it could be more like 50-60 years as a lot of this started in the 60's.

Crazy to think there has been over half a century of people denying how corrupt our government is...


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #24466643 - 07/08/17 02:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

XLCaps said:
Random but I like answering the phone for telemarketers because I always pretend I'm an Indian telemarketer. The confusion is amazing.




Lol thats priceless


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Re: Wiretapping gone mad [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24466648 - 07/08/17 02:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Guess I should stop answering my phone with "Dirka dirka, Jihad Mohammed Allah"

:shrug:





I'm going to start answering my phone with that phrase. :smilingpuppy:


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