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Natural size and potentcy
    #24449502 - 07/01/17 01:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Now I'd say 99% of us would agree that smaller fruits are more potent by weight that larger ones.
And most of us agree you should harvest right before or right after the veil breaks as to not make a mess and to have "peak" potency before the fruit gets too large.
So what about fruits that are just naturally large?
You could have a 4 inch GT with a 2-3 inch diameter cap or a b+ that's 8 inches with a 5-6 diameter cap.
Now you could harvest both of these at the previously mentioned point of ripeness and have 2  very differently sized fruits.
So in theory should each fruit harvested at the same stage of maturity have roughly the same potency by weight?
Or is the size no matter what point of maturity the real factor?


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: VoiceOfLogos]
    #24449520 - 07/01/17 01:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I would say the latter.


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: VoiceOfLogos]
    #24449534 - 07/01/17 02:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Now I'd say 99% of us would agree that smaller fruits are more potent by weight that larger ones.





I don't agree with that.


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: Morelman]
    #24449540 - 07/01/17 02:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

shorties can really kick ass.

but i also grew these which were bunk as fuck.


this was 3.8g~ of insanity. really heavy fucking shroom.


its all in the jeans. clone for potency, ignore 'strains' or sizes. my one clone of aa+ might be small and they wreck everyone hard.
but its not because the shroom is small. thats just a coincidence.


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: mushboy]
    #24449562 - 07/01/17 02:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Now I'd say 99% of us would agree that smaller fruits are more potent by weight that larger ones.





I don't agree with that.



Really? Any time i eat something harvested late and is much larger it's a good deal less potent than a handful of smaller ones. Now I guess it could be the MS genetics yadda yadda. But honestly evertime is pretty predictable untill I throw a few big boys into the mix and then it's not as intense.

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shorties can really kick ass.

but i also grew these which were bunk as fuck.


this was 3.8g~ of insanity. really heavy fucking shroom.


its all in the jeans. clone for potency, ignore 'strains' or sizes. my one clone of aa+ might be small and they wreck everyone hard.
but its not because the shroom is small. thats just a coincidence.




Hm ya I kno strains don't mean much. Honestly I have all my stuff to do agar work with but haven't started yet braise I can never get a straight answer about cloning MS vs doing isolations. All I get is different opinions and smart remarks.
My q's are if you clone ms do you isolate the clone sections or just use it? And do you get consistent results? Or do u have to clone a fruit from an isolate to get anything g worth while.
Basicly I want to know is cloning a ms worth it? Everyone always just says "it's still ms blah blah"
Now of course I could isolate and do both which I plan on. But I've been looking for a strait answer.


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: VoiceOfLogos]
    #24449573 - 07/01/17 02:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

i just take a clone. clean it up with a few transfers. and use it.

cloning ms is what you do instead of doing 200 transfer to find an isolate. only find out its a dud or foot tall shrooms.

ya never know. but you DO know with a clone.

ms grow. nothin special really. uneven pin set. ok grow. potency of that mushroom was ok.


cloned the big one on the left.

that was cleaned up and tossed into 3 quarts and grew this.


im not sure whaat the next step is. im currently going insane from testing clones and growing out the winners.:awesanta:


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: mushboy]
    #24449601 - 07/01/17 02:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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i just take a clone. clean it up with a few transfers. and use it.

cloning ms is what you do instead of doing 200 transfer to find an isolate. only find out its a dud or foot tall shrooms.

ya never know. but you DO know with a clone.

ms grow. nothin special really. uneven pin set. ok grow. potency of that mushroom was ok.


cloned the big one on the left.

that was cleaned up and tossed into 3 quarts and grew this.


im not sure whaat the next step is. im currently going insane from testing clones and growing out the winners.:awesanta:




Ya that looks much better than the first one. So will you take another clone from your next grow? Or is that pointless? Or will you use a plate from a different sector of your first clone?


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: VoiceOfLogos]
    #24449622 - 07/01/17 02:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

no, he'll just keep growing that clone. don't clone a clone you already have it on agar unless you threw it away


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24449625 - 07/01/17 02:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Or the clone you got has got dirty and cant clean it up or something


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24449627 - 07/01/17 02:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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no, he'll just keep growing that clone. don't clone a clone you already have it on agar unless you threw it away




So a clone from MS will have sectors correct?


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: VoiceOfLogos]
    #24449666 - 07/01/17 03:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It can


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #24449756 - 07/01/17 03:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Harvesting late means the mushrooms put on water weight. That would mean a potency loss by weight if you are them fresh but, if dried would make zero difference. As for smaller fruits vs bigger fruits I have had potent small ones and weak small ones. Potent big ones and weak big ones.

Ms is random. Lots of potential. Do 1000 grows and tell me more.


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Re: Natural size and potentcy [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24450117 - 07/01/17 06:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Big over grown ones can rape. Don't underestimate the potential just because it's bigger. It will eventually kick you in the ass.


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