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How often do you see aliens or gods or entities?
    #24448448 - 06/30/17 10:23 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

None of my friends encounter any while they are on shrooms or psychedelics.

While i always meet them even from taking eighth of dried cubensis.

Is it like it happens to certain people only?


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: oontribe] * 1
    #24448450 - 06/30/17 10:27 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Is it like it happens to certain people only?




Just the crazy ones


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #24448846 - 07/01/17 03:40 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Entheogens are God, the Creator. When a person ingests Them they are seeing God (who is an "alien" to most people) - whether they realize it or not.

I once was speaking to a friend who had injected DMT i.v. I was talking about the Light.  He was asking me about Them and I told him he had seen the Light. He acted like he didn't know what I was talking about. I told him that the Light he saw when he ingested DMT -- That WAS the Light.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: oontribe]
    #24449456 - 07/01/17 11:27 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I've had them from as little as 3 grams, if I take at least that amount I seem to be quite open to encountering them.
What's crazy is I've encountered 3 different entities (1 on LSD, 2 on mushrooms) that supposedly tons of other people also see but I didn't find out till years later.


LSD - Prey Mantis entity which felt very alien (and is often reported as feeling alien)

Mushrooms - Tykes and "Flirtatious Fairies"


I was so creeped out to find that other people have encountered "Flirtatious Fairies" in hyperspace (mostly on DMT). Years ago when I first saw this on a trip though I labeled it as a "licentious fairy" but hey that's close enough lol. And then of course there's the classic tykes which McKenna even reported seeing as well as people on this forum. Tykes (other than just straight up aliens) are by far the most common kind of entity; even Rogan and Duncan Trussell has gotten them.

I've also gotten tons of other entities that I haven't heard reported by others at least not explicitly. These would mostly be like aliens and plant deities or "nature spirits".


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: endogenous]
    #24449470 - 07/01/17 11:34 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I think you have to be open to the experience.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: CrackingTheCode]
    #24449489 - 07/01/17 11:43 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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I think you have to be open to the experience.




I don't think so. I was never open to the concept of "entities" ESPECIALLY with synthetic chemical like LSD. It just happened :laugh:


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24449641 - 07/01/17 12:51 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know the logic behind it. All I know is it's awesome. Happened to me very few times and the best contact I had was recently from a relatively low dose of mushrooms. Just around 4 grams or so. Fucking incredible upside-down encounter. Weird shit. But so warm and loving. Of course my encounter was ended by a friend blabbing unexpectedly. I fucking hate humans when I'm tripping. I can ignore animals wind and all natural shit. But humans kill it


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24449782 - 07/01/17 01:58 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I find my trips to be a fairly solitary experience, i have to get into heavy territory to see beings.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: LaoTse]
    #24449788 - 07/01/17 02:01 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

How about just feeling like you're not alone? Does that count? My regular conversations with inanimate objects as though they're conscious beings. For instance my conversations with the moon. Where we are talking about things here on Earth and laughing together. Does that count? That dude's hilarious.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24449831 - 07/01/17 02:17 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Lmfao I'd love to talk to the moon :eek:


I'm not sure if that would count as entities though, sounds like animism which is also pretty common with mushrooms. Inanimate objects coming alive and such. I don't know why but I've felt like animism/anthropomorphism has something to do with evolution like the human mind being able to attribute sentience and personalities to all forms of matter. I wouldn't be surprised if the stoned ape theory (more of a hypothesis than a theory) has something to do with human beings ability to anthropomorphize nearly anything.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #24449851 - 07/01/17 02:23 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I figured. Still awesome though.

When it happens I can really feel the consciousness coming through. Not just hearing the voice in my head but I feel like it's another person, or maybe I'm another moon. I don't know how to explain it.

Let's just say when I'm tripping and in that fun state of open eyes tripping but not overwhelmed, I will often see things and thank them for doing their job.. once it was the ceiling. Another time it was the table.

I know it sounds weird but I've talked to a lot of shit that didn't talk back.

First time was from mde/mda way back when I was probably 15 or so. I was tripping balls after a very long day and night of continuing to redose these rolls I had. I came to from a deep roll and I was talking to a Halloween decoration at my buddy's house.

It's basically all been down hill from there. But for some reason I love that connectedness with not human entities.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24449860 - 07/01/17 02:27 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

My last entity contact the entity was trying to show me where the colors were coming from and take me there. Just as I was getting closer to that void my friend started fucking babbling about her keys. I could have killed her. I'm not a patient man. I was extremely bummed out. And although it didn't turn my trip sour really, I was really bummed that this entity was trying to show me the way and couldn't because of a human.

She was upside down, flowing streams of color and vast like an ocean compacted down in an entire universe of darkness.

It was pretty profound. I've thought about it every minute of every day since it happened. Tonight or tomorrow, I'm going to try to find that place again.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24449896 - 07/01/17 02:52 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

i used to have a lot of entity contact on mushrooms but not as much anymore. like when i open my eyes in my dark room i can see this guy and his long noodle arms.



this is what i see in my closed eye on mild dmt smoked doses, or when im coming down from a breakthrough


and when i breakthrough on smoked DMT/large oral dose go to this place with a bunch of entities



alot of clowns in my trips


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24450008 - 07/01/17 03:45 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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It was pretty profound. I've thought about it every minute of every day since it happened. Tonight or tomorrow, I'm going to try to find that place again.




I know that feeling.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: oontribe] * 1
    #24450328 - 07/01/17 05:58 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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How often do you see aliens or gods or entities




Aliens, oh all the time, on the bus, in the supermarket, in the canteen at work, tutting as they fumble for change with their giant mandibles. A friend who worked in a supermarket said he thought that God might be the guy who came in every Saturday asking where the light bulbs were.

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None of my friends encounter any while they are on shrooms or psychedelics.




But seriously folks... its not always clear what people actually mean by 'entity contact'. They could be talking about:

Something appearing as OEV in the room with them
Something in their CEV
Something in "DMT Hyperspace" (which to me sounds like the kind of breakthrough where the OEV have basically replaced or overlaid your normal view of the world with something different, like CEV with your eyes open - perhaps SleepyE or someone else can try to explain 'where' you are seeing this kind of stuff).
Or it could be some kind of non-visual experience, maybe a voice or a sense of communicating with something via thought through the trip itself.

And something similar to what Steveinshell wrote.... sometimes you get a very strong feeling that you are not alone in the trip, there is "something coming" or some kind of alien presence closing in on you.

:llamastare:

I've also had very powerful trips where I've been obsessed with the idea that I can feel the presence of God, like an overwhelming force within the trip that is going to punish me. I think that feeling is basically a kind of misinterpretation of your own fear and guilt and paranoia and a kind of inability to "go with the flow" - but it can be very powerful and lead you into the kind of trip where you feel like you died and then became God yourself, which is even more crazy if you believe it in the literal sense.

Personally I'd be very surprised if someone took mushrooms and simply got a stone-cold concrete hallucination of an alien being appearing in the room with them (although you can get things appearing in the corners of your vision sometimes). The kind of dose required to intensify the OEV to the point where I might see something like this, is for me beyond the point where I'm paying any attention to the visuals, I'm lost in some crazy headtrip spreading myself across multiple dimensions....  I think you would have more luck with DMT or pharmahuasca.

But as for CEV, I think if you take a decent dose of mushrooms you can see some very alien stuff, although in my experience it usually has that peculiar look common to a lot of CEV - a kind of fractalized glowing surface and a slightly abstract geometrical appearance.

This was from a recent trip:

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CEV: Black craft that swarm around you, hinged with unseen cantilevers, shapeless and bestial beneath their metal carapace. The rubber feels like metal and the metal feels like rubber.And it comes closer and closes around you. And moves quickly and silently into the unknown.




:ufo:

And another one:

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CEV: Giant, writhing tentacles envelop me in a churning sea of yellow-green. I'm enjoying this quietly.




I mean that kind of experience is quite typical in some ways - the feeling that the CEV are moving or swarming in an intelligent way, either showing you things or closing around you and taking you further into the trip. They might not look like conventional 'aliens' but it can feel like the whole realm of your CEV is both intelligent and alien, like staring into another dimension at a completely different form of existence.

And noting the OPs location in Egypt, I did get some very impressive CEV not so long ago that looked like tombs or pyramids filled with peculiar brightly-coloured statues and objects, as though I'm seeing the treasure tombs of Egyptian Gods or bizarre aliens. I was seeing things that looked like the traditional Egyptian Gods in the form of statues made out of some unusual material, like they were alive inside and might somehow wake up. It wasn't even a particularly strong trip, more of a social one, it was just a really memorable episode of CEV combined with a feeling of awe that it might in some sense be 'real', like a communication from something, somewhere...

:aliceshocker: :creepyalien: :owl: :scaryshroom:


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: Aldebaran] * 1
    #24450368 - 07/01/17 06:20 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

in the open eye ive never seen an entity on its own. Its usually "possessing objects"
what i mean by that is that it seems that my pareidolia gets increased to an insane degree where objects in the room im in morph into these entities.

this effect causes my room (peaking on mushrooms in dark lighting but still enough to kind of see objects) to look not like my room anymore, but some sort of parallel dimensions with "weird" alienlike structures and objects" some of these objects for instance develop limbs somehow and look like noodle armed clown tentacles that are somehow animated and moving around and make me feel like its going to pull me under the bed im laying on.

in the closed eyes on low doses you can see entities or figures, but on high doses or dmt breakthroughs it feels like you can physically interact with them and they are much more immersive in your experience and something you can not get away from at that moment.


smoked dmt on the other hand i must say that i have resorted to keeping my eyes closed no matter what until the duration is over.
the reason is that i never really got much oev before and it was purely internal but now its 100% altering my open eyed visions to the point where its scary and i feel threatened.
i almost always smoke in my basement and there is a lot of electronic equipment like power-supplies and oscilloscopes. if i keep my eyes open i see all this equipment come alive and turn into alien like transformers and it just gets so real i start to get afraid because i has this odd fear that im not really sure what im messing with and if for some mysterious reason im dealing with forces beyond myself i cannot assume its going to all be benevolent.
im sure nothing will ever attack me but anytime you see a bunch of shit somewhat coming alive all around you it naturally releases fight or flight feelings and some type of stress response.
i usually feel like there are good entities around mostly, the lamp next to me would always come to life and start "tipping its hat" to me pretending the lamp shade is the hat its wearing and its trying to gesture at me.


i really dont know what to make of it but its really fucking weird and fascinating at the same time.
i mean im sure im perfectly safe all the time but i guess im just paranoid when we don't know everything about consciousness, better be safe than sorry right? :lol:
i dont want my table coming to life and accidentally crushing me or something because i think thats my fear. that these things are gonna start walking around not giving a fuck and i just get stepped on because they appear very big and heavy somehow. i figure im safe if i cant see them you know?


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: SleepyE]
    #24450426 - 07/01/17 06:49 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I once saw a rotating ring of grey alien heads when i was redosing shrooms over and over.  It turned out it was a group of people chatting nearby.  I was laid out on the ground and tripping hard.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: sunshine]
    #24450882 - 07/01/17 10:13 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno if this counts, but on two seperate occasions after rolling on MDMA (and smoking some quality weed) trying to fall asleep and a cartoon looking Indian mans face appeared (CEV) and then seamlessly morphed into three other faces.

The second time it was just the first face, but it was the exact same face as last time, just it didn't morph into the other faces.

He almost looked like he was drawn on Microsoft paint haha. I haven't really seen entities while tripping, but I've certainly felt presences etc.


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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24451243 - 07/02/17 03:19 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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LSD - Prey Mantis entity which felt very alien (and is often reported as feeling alien)



It's interesting that you spelled it "prey" instead of "pray".

LSD was showing you how you look to Them  - and also how They look to you.

Can you not understand, cannot you see?
Were you not told this from the first,
have you not grasped this since the world began?
That They sit over the round earth,
so high that its inhabitants look like grasshoppers

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Re: How often do you see aliens or gods or entities? [Re: endogenous]
    #24451397 - 07/02/17 07:00 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Not often at all unless I'm on a high dose or smoked nnDMT. Tho that being said whenever I am tripping willow trees always seem toappear as elder looking wise men or trolls. For some reason I feel a strong connection to willow trees and always sense this sort of ancient wisdom.


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