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Nutrient Dunk
    #2444255 - 03/17/04 07:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey all,
First off, I was wondering if instead of just dunking in water w/ h2o2 you could take that and add nutrients to the mix, everyone has said that the whole reason that they dont keep growing after a few flushes is a lack of nutrients in the cakes...
Also, If I were to experiment with this, what nutrients should I add? In other words what do the mushrooms need to produce [said active ingredient] and actual growth?
Thanks for any and all advice


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: BLuEFroG]
    #2444266 - 03/17/04 07:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Good question, my FOAF was going to start injecting his cakes with a WBS or Rye sulution next flush to see if it would help. I dont know but when he e-mails me with the results i'll let you know.


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: THEBOSS]
    #2444297 - 03/17/04 07:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It may help slightly, but I doubt you'll see anything substantial. The cakes exhaust themselves once they produce a flush of mushrooms. By dunking them you slightly rehydrate them but it is impossible to get it back to the healthy birthing stage. So after each flush the cake gets older and older, some mycellium exhaust themselves, and then it eventually just dies. But tell us what happens in your experiments. Maybe you can soak brown rice, drain it, and dunk cakes in that.


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: BLuEFroG]
    #2444352 - 03/17/04 08:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

good opertunity for contams


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: fee]
    #2444417 - 03/17/04 08:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

that would be what the h2o2 is for though... keep the liquid h2o2 mix the same as usual dunks, but just add nutrients to the water...
I still havent found out what nutrients to add if anyone want to post what is used in mushroom production.


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: BLuEFroG]
    #2444604 - 03/17/04 09:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

this is a lil off topic but could ya mix a hand full of hbrws in your substrate, and would the mycleium pull the lsa out of them into the mushrooms?


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: BLuEFroG]
    #2444797 - 03/17/04 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was thinking...

Long-Life milk is UHT treated and sterile. Would this be good to use for a nutrient dunk (with a teaspoon of h2o2 for good measure)?


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: sakura]
    #2445038 - 03/17/04 11:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think that a decent starch dunk might help or a sugar dunk.. thats what they would be growing off in wbs jars, either starch or sugar.. not sure which tho


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: Yarry]
    #2445143 - 03/17/04 11:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so, say if i were to cook pasta then take the pasta water and add sugar... and then add h2o2 you think it would be good?


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: BLuEFroG]
    #2445151 - 03/17/04 11:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its something ive been thinking of doin.. give it a try dude and let us know!


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: BLuEFroG]
    #2445166 - 03/17/04 11:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think the best would be to pasturize horse poo and use that water
since shrooms like horse poo the best I find this to be optimal


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: fee]
    #2447541 - 03/18/04 04:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hmm... good idea, but I have absolutely no access to horse poo... or cow poo for that matter. Ive got all the human poo you would want though! I myself am a dispenser!


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: BLuEFroG]
    #2447557 - 03/18/04 04:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

BLuEFroG said:
hmm... good idea, but I have absolutely no access to horse poo... or cow poo for that matter. Ive got all the human poo you would want though! I myself am a dispenser!




i myself am a consumer!  :rolleyes:


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: BLuEFroG]
    #2448490 - 03/18/04 08:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Could you add L-Glutamine?


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: doc34]
    #2448511 - 03/18/04 08:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Is that a relative of glucose? looks like it to me although ive never heard of it


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: Yarry]
    #2448536 - 03/18/04 08:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

just buy store bought poo and pasturize it
I think the only/best way for it not to contam is to use a pasturized nutrient dunk
sterilizing I think would be too risky for contams
and nothing at all I think is even worse


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: Yarry]
    #2448965 - 03/18/04 10:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's an Amino Acid used to fuel the immune system.


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: doc34]
    #2448995 - 03/18/04 10:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

do you have the chem formula for it? From what you say it seems like a glucose based acid... i duno if that would work so well because i think they eat sugars or starches, so they wouldnt be able to break down the amino acid.. it might work but id say no


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: Yarry]
    #2449008 - 03/18/04 10:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its not a sugar, its a hydrocarbon with an amine group on it, basically

amino acids are used in protein synthesis


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Re: Nutrient Dunk [Re: Psilygirl]
    #2449031 - 03/18/04 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yes,it provides an anti-catabolic effect and is involved in protein sythesis. You can get it at GNC-I have some left and thats why I asked.Its said to boost your immune system- maybe fight of contams???


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