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Lostsmiles
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Weird shaped pan foe?
#24442102 - 06/28/17 01:02 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Found these growing in a field next to a bunch of pan foes. The shape of the cap really threw me off. In the process of taking a print
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Doc9151
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Lostsmiles]
#24442113 - 06/28/17 01:13 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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May not be a foe, gills look pretty black, do a spore print.
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Doc9151] 1
#24442141 - 06/28/17 01:27 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are panaeolopsis probably active. Similar to cinctulus. Get a bunch of them and try them out.
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Doc9151]
#24442143 - 06/28/17 01:28 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like Panaeolopsis species to me.
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I've also noticed them popping out in our area... There were a bunch growing in the park down town atascadero right before the heat hit.
I've also seen them in moronbay over by the campgrounds. You know which ones.
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I just learned about these being active recently, I too thought they were some weird foes. I've heard good reviews for our local area that they're fairly strong. About the same strength as our cincts...
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I'll post pics of the print when they're done, took em on white and black paper. The thing that makes me thing they might be a pan foe is the fact that they're larger in size and more more than the rest growing around them(that are definitely foes). These mushrooms have been coming up from fog moisture, here on the central coast we get fog until 9-12 am in the summers. So my theory is that they had genetics that were making them bigger so when they were immature, the sun came out and dryer them into they're funky shape before they matured. Or they might just be a different species hah
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Lostsmiles]
#24442242 - 06/28/17 02:05 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here's a little info on the panaeolopsis, see if matches.
https://www.shroomery.org/12480/Panaeolopsis-sp
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Doc9151]
#24442276 - 06/28/17 02:17 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks brotha! I'll go look for more
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Lostsmiles]
#24442299 - 06/28/17 02:26 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Panaeolus cinctulus (group?)
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Found three crispy ones next to a fresh one, you can see where the confusion comes in with the two foes to the right. Some immature foes look similar to the panaeolopsis
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Lostsmiles]
#24442549 - 06/28/17 04:22 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like some are Panaeolus foenisecii, and others are in the Panaeolus cinctulus group, formerly called Panaeolopsis. The black spored ones should be active.
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Alan Rockefeller said: others are in the Panaeolus cinctulus group, formerly called Panaeolopsis.
I have a vague memory of there being several Panaeolopsis species, where some were labelled active and others not.
Are there several species showing these features, or are they all in the P. cinctulus group?
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Anglerfish]
#24442748 - 06/28/17 05:46 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Found some more in a different field. They seem to be pretty common here. These have some light blue bruising at the base
Now these on the other hand bruised immediately and very dark but just at the base. These seem to be a bit small for a cinct and have the same characteristics as a foes. I did notice one thing different, the foes cap doesn't crack the same way as these do.
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Lostsmiles]
#24442839 - 06/28/17 06:15 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice. I even found the ones that don't have black spores are active.
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Gymnopilus aeruginosus Gymnopilus luteofolius Panaeolopsis sp. Panaeolus bispora Panaeolus cinctulus Panaeolus olivaceus Pluteus salicinus Psilocybe allenii Psilocybe azurescens Psilocybe cyanescens Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata Psilocybe pelliculosa Psilocybe semilanceata Psilocybe stuntzii
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: TheHunt]
#24442891 - 06/28/17 06:33 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can you post the info you found here so we can all read it, it would be much appreciated.
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Edited by Doc9151 (06/28/17 06:34 PM)
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Doc9151]
#24442957 - 06/28/17 06:56 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sometimes Foenisecii does have a strange appearance and shape, I've seen those before. Fascinating how foenisecii sorta have a similiar appearance on the margin of a panaeolopsis.
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Doc9151]
#24442962 - 06/28/17 06:58 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24392428
Here. I separated my mutated collections based on stipe and gill color.
Then i consumed the ones that were separated as goes. Grayish brown gills and stipes that were not red. Active.
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Gymnopilus aeruginosus Gymnopilus luteofolius Panaeolopsis sp. Panaeolus bispora Panaeolus cinctulus Panaeolus olivaceus Pluteus salicinus Psilocybe allenii Psilocybe azurescens Psilocybe cyanescens Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata Psilocybe pelliculosa Psilocybe semilanceata Psilocybe stuntzii
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: TheHunt]
#24442974 - 06/28/17 07:00 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tks thehunt
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Re: Weird shaped pan foe? [Re: Doc9151]
#24444477 - 06/29/17 12:28 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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The spores off the panaeolus are black. For some reason the panaeolopsis didint drop any spores.
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