|
 Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
 AyePlus
Stony Danza
 
Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
|
 LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments 
#24186381 - 03/23/17 02:51 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
|
|
 
Purchased some LC syringes from a sponsor
Made up some jars a couple days ago, gonna try using the C. comatus directly on the compost pile, taking M. rufobrunnea and H. abietes to grain then sawdust then inoculating a burn pile near some well mulched apple and plum trees with the Morels and plugging fir logs with the Hericium.
The P. Stipticus is going to stay in jars to see some glowing mycelium, just an impulse buy, might add it to compost too since it has shown potential in bioremediation
Any tips or pointers?
I know people are going to hate on using polyfil but I'm not super worried about contamination since everything is going ohtside
Should I go to grain or sawdust with the shaggy manes before moving them onto ompost? Or should I Pc some compost in a 1/2 gallon jar?
The compost is thermal and was tempurature monitored but may have blewit mycelium in it because I put a bit of stem butt slurry on it and I always collect chunks of wild mycelium and throw them in my piles for diversity. I could also make another thermal pile and have it ready in about 4-5 weeks
I know usually hardwood sawdust is used but since H abietes is a softwood eater could I also use softwood for the morels?
Or
should I make seperate batches when I prepare my sawdust spawn?
Will update with progress pictures. TIA
|
 Ferather
Mycological
Registered: 03/19/15
Posts: 6,325
Loc: United Kingdom 
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
|
 Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AyePlus]
#24186397 - 03/23/17 02:58 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
|
|
I only know oysters and poplars at the moment, however good luck 
|
Forrester
aspiring sociopath
Registered: 02/05/13
Posts: 9,352
Loc: Northeast USA
Last seen: 1 month, 11 days
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: Ferather]
#24187374 - 03/23/17 09:26 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
|
|
Applause for trying some difficult species, I doubt but hope you will find some help here. I certainly can't offer any. Looking forward to seeing if you have any success though, good luck!
And don't put too much hope into those morels...
--------------------
Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here.
-------------------
Have some medicinal mushrooms and want to get the most out of them? Try this double extraction method.
|
AyePlus
Stony Danza
Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: Forrester]
#24191555 - 03/25/17 11:15 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
Seeing noticable mycelium growth in
1/3 morel jars
3/3 hericium jars
3/3 p. stipticus
0/3 shaggy jars
How long should I wait before I try again If I'm not noticing any growth?
and
should I just reinoculate or should I make up fresh LC?
I'm thinking I'll give it at least another week
|
Om Namo Shivaya
Registered: 05/03/15
Posts: 762
Last seen: 1 day, 8 hours
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AyePlus]
#24192645 - 03/25/17 05:46 PM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
 Good luck on your grow!
|
AyePlus
Stony Danza
Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
|
|
Day 8
Seeing mycelium in all the jars now, looks like the C. comatus are going the slowest, they havent made a big mycelial mass like the other species, yet. But I am seeing some clumping of the sediment and what looks like a few strandy bits in each jar,
It may be that I should have used a little bit more LC to inoculate w/ or maybe they are just slow growers?
The H. abietes is the fastest growing followed by M. rufo, P. stipticus and C. comatus
P. stipticus
M. rufobrunnea
H. abietes
C. comatus
Side by side without P. stipticus
|
AndyHinton
Registered: 12/05/16
Posts: 434
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AyePlus]
#24200937 - 03/28/17 08:24 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
|
|
Hey man, I learned the hard way too that Shroomery vendor gourmet LC is just expensive syringes. Your LC looks like my grains. I love the vendors but only trust the community itself when it comes to the real thing. People will hook you up if you ask nicely.
Also, does anyone have general advice on outdoor spawning, especially shaggy mane, king stropharia, and maitake?
Update: It should be on the bottom; the top contaminated.
Edited by AndyHinton (12/20/17 06:57 PM)
|
AyePlus
Stony Danza
Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AndyHinton]
#24201185 - 03/28/17 09:54 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
|
|
I vortex it by carefully shaking it in a circle, it keeps the dissolved oxygen up and the cultures don't float to the surface. Yeast is anaerobic fungi, so yes the two are similar but not the same.
I've had luck with stropharia on sawdust going onto chips, pretty easy to grow IMO, put it somewhere shady, make the patch deeper rather than wider or you'll have to add chips every year, better to make big chunks of spawn than to break it up and evenly spread.
Oh and don't overestimate how many you can eat, we got burnt out on them rather quickly, they're best marinaded and grilled.
First flush 1st year
|
AndyHinton
Registered: 12/05/16
Posts: 434
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AyePlus]
#24201948 - 03/29/17 07:25 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
|
|
Thanks for the king stropharia tips. I've been thinking about burying intact spawn in a deep bed of wood chips, then mixing separated spawn and wood chips into the nearby topsoil. Definitely something to try this summer.
I just thought I'd chime in about the LC because it seems like we're in a similar place with similar goals. After working with vendor LC and then making my own from real cultures, there's no comparison.
Now I'm approaching the understanding that probably a lot of fungi are oxygen-agnostic and that it really depends on what you want from the culture.
--------------------
|
Ferather
Mycological
Registered: 03/19/15
Posts: 6,325
Loc: United Kingdom
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AndyHinton]
#24202079 - 03/29/17 08:50 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
AndyHinton said:
...After working with LC and learning more about how home brewing is mycology...
Indeed, yeast is a unicellular (single celled) starch-sugar loving fungus.
|
TravelAgency
The ongoing "wow"
Registered: 12/25/10
Posts: 4,431
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: Ferather]
#24203463 - 03/29/17 06:40 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
|
|
Great thread so far! Thanks for the info and good luck on your grows!
|
AyePlus
Stony Danza
Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: TravelAgency]
#24216594 - 04/03/17 10:21 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
|
|
Just an update, made some jars of grain and inoculated with the edible LC's on the 31st.
See some small cottony myc growing in a couple of the bears head jars, made 2 from each LC jar and am going to shake one from each LC to see if that stimulates growth like I have read.
No obvious contams yet, fingers crossed
Will post pictures as more mycelium is visible in jars
|
AyePlus
Stony Danza
Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AyePlus]
#24250274 - 04/16/17 09:44 PM (7 years, 1 day ago) |
|
|
Hey guys been busy but heres my update 4-16
None of my Shaggy jars showed any growth at all so I ordered from a different source, maybe they don't like LC's or Grain? Dumped the jars on my compost pile just in case, did see some scraggly mycelium under the scope but very few and far between, gonna try again with same methodology then if I fail again will try something different like adding some compost.
Pics from 4-11
H. abietes starting to fruit in spawn jar,
Bottom of same jar
Another jar not shaken also fruiting already
Jar that was shaken
M. rufobrunnea
Pics from today 4-16
M. rufobrunnea starting to take off
Left one H. abietes jar unshaken just to watch what happens. Shook all the rest
Well shaken jar
H. abietes fruiting from LC, guess I haven't been swirling often enough.
|
LizardWizard
GnomeGrower
Registered: 01/07/15
Posts: 13,717
Loc: the parking lot
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AyePlus]
#24423617 - 06/21/17 11:35 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
How are things with the rufo? Have you fruited it succesfully before?
|
AyePlus
Stony Danza
Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: LizardWizard]
#24434679 - 06/25/17 03:04 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I have abunch of different rufo spawn jars goin woth blends of wheat, compost, worm castings, river sand and composted fir bark. So far the one woth castings sand and grain is doing the best 1:1:10 ratio. Plan is to let them make sclerotia in the dark in my closet and plant the sclerotia outside in the fall. Haven't fruited it yet so here goes nothing.
Also to update on the other mushrooms, I have three 1/2 gallon bottle tek jars going of the hericium that are fully colonized, made a 4 gallon sawdust bucket of pheonix oyster, regular oyster and another of hericium, 8:1 with oysters and 4:1 with hericium, from bucket tek'd fir sawdust pellets, not ideal for the P. ostreatus but the other two should like it.
I did side by side comparisons with the H.abietes of ~6 cc's of LC or doing G2Sawdust and saw very little difference even wit half a pint of grain. Will see if the yeild or quality are different, they are both fruiting now
     
The C. Comatus is taking forever to colonize the supplemented sawdust Qt I have of it but not much to do but wait.
Oh and just for fun I left a H.a LC out on the shelf to see what would happen
|
LizardWizard
GnomeGrower
Registered: 01/07/15
Posts: 13,717
Loc: the parking lot
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: AyePlus]
#24434754 - 06/25/17 03:40 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Comatus doesn't usually grow on wood, does it? Have you tried it on grains before?
The Hericium Abietes culture fruit is awesome! Took off real fast on agar btw!
--------------------
The best things in life
can be smelled on one's fingers.
Edited by LizardWizard (06/25/17 03:41 PM)
|
AyePlus
Stony Danza
Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
|
Re: LC's for Outdoor cultivation experiments [Re: LizardWizard]
#24434791 - 06/25/17 03:58 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I tried the first syringe on grains, it was a bust, bought a new one and went straight to agar and supplemented chips w/it and put it in the fridge. Been super busy. Summers are hard for me to pull away from work. People fruit it from straw so I figured it was worth a shot if I supplemented.
|
|
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Edit 
Reply 
Tamrylin
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )
Wrightii
Feelers
Basidiocarp
Bi0TeK
RogerRabbit
ragadinks