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OfflinePuduwoke
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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: Pullarius]
    #26236599 - 10/07/19 09:37 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Hi Bod. After ordering a different HEPA and them sending me the wrong size after me looking around for several weeks..  sucks.

Now I need to order another one. Could you just tell me if this is the kind we are looking for before I order ANOTHER HEPA..

I know it's not 99.99 but that's ok for me.

Please take a fast look if you so not mind so I can feel comfortable with ordering since this is a lot more expensive then the other one I order.

Thanks :hug:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/24-x-24-x-11-5-HEPA-Filter-for-Negative-Air-Machine-s-Air-Scrubbers-2000CFM/162993649682?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40741%26meid%3D4b168d789e6549068865ea9965ab043a%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D162993649682%26itm%3D162993649682%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5af62ce4-e8dd-11e9-a1cd-74dbd180e451%7Cparentrq%3Aa55b87e216d0ad31c3f63e1cfff50b32%7Ciid%3A1


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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26240585 - 10/09/19 03:25 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Hi, I've read the comprehensive agar tek. So to make agar is it only just AA powder and tap water?

There's a mention of nutrients, but I'm not clear on the nutrient part.

Is Grain Soak Water agar made by using the remaining water in the pot from boiling the oats (instead of tap water) then mixing with AA powder?

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Re: Where to Start Flow Chart and helpful links also ask your questions here Q&A [Re: sleepforrest]
    #26259498 - 10/17/19 07:42 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome break down, looking into starting some growing and this break down helps a lot. Thank you for your time. Even a couple years later!!

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: MagicMusic]
    #26259677 - 10/17/19 08:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

What all edible, or bioluminescent mushrooms can grow in a monotub? And would using wax paper on the bottom and up the sides for grops work to pull the whole substrate out work? I dont have access to a indoor hose or syphon so cant use it to float the mushrooms up for harvesting. Thanks for all of the great info I've been reading it and will use your guides instead of getting a store bought grow kit.

Just Use Myco bags super easy and you can put them anywhere, You’re definitely not going to get optimal FAE but I’m usually happy with them

Edited by Jakeoncid419 (10/17/19 08:59 PM)

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26259681 - 10/17/19 09:00 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Puduwoke said:
Hi Bod. After ordering a different HEPA and them sending me the wrong size after me looking around for several weeks..  sucks.

Now I need to order another one. Could you just tell me if this is the kind we are looking for before I order ANOTHER HEPA..

I know it's not 99.99 but that's ok for me.

Please take a fast look if you so not mind so I can feel comfortable with ordering since this is a lot more expensive then the other one I order.

Thanks :hug:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/24-x-24-x-11-5-HEPA-Filter-for-Negative-Air-Machine-s-Air-Scrubbers-2000CFM/162993649682?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40741%26meid%3D4b168d789e6549068865ea9965ab043a%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D162993649682%26itm%3D162993649682%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5af62ce4-e8dd-11e9-a1cd-74dbd180e451%7Cparentrq%3Aa55b87e216d0ad31c3f63e1cfff50b32%7Ciid%3A1



I wouldn't get a .97 at that price

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Hi, I've read the comprehensive agar tek. So to make agar is it only just AA powder and tap water?

There's a mention of nutrients, but I'm not clear on the nutrient part.

Is Grain Soak Water agar made by using the remaining water in the pot from boiling the oats (instead of tap water) then mixing with AA powder?



You sure you read it?
No nutrition no growth. They need food

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What all edible, or bioluminescent mushrooms can grow in a monotub? And would using wax paper on the bottom and up the sides for grops work to pull the whole substrate out work? I dont have access to a indoor hose or syphon so cant use it to float the mushrooms up for harvesting. Thanks for all of the great info I've been reading it and will use your guides instead of getting a store bought grow kit.

Just Use Myco bags super easy and you can put them anywhere, You’re definitely not going to get optimal FAE but I’m usually happy with them



Oysters and shiitake suck ass in a monotub. Only maybe reishi antlers are good for tub growing

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26259686 - 10/17/19 09:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Also jake. You have a sink or a tub. The hose goes there. Then the hose is your siphon to drain the water.

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26259901 - 10/17/19 11:56 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

No no I meant growing them invitro in micro bags not a Mono tub, Oysters get really leggy but lions mane and reishi do OK


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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26260283 - 10/18/19 07:57 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

The first post in this thread says "The first thing users of this forum should know is how to post a picture and how to resize a picture". Both links go to "not found". Are there new links somewhere?

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: SporePrince]
    #26260775 - 10/18/19 12:01 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I just managed to post some images in the daily grow thread, so I guess I didn't need the instructions. If the images should be resized, I may still need instructions, because I didn't do any "resizing" step.

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: SporePrince]
    #26260802 - 10/18/19 12:12 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I also found another link for instructions on how to upload images:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13674858

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: SporePrince]
    #26262139 - 10/18/19 11:00 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Hi bod,

Any advice? I see green coming into my first shoebox that grew pins. . .
 

The top still looks fine, though I know its coming.


Any point trying for
A print or 2
Or fruiting?
Will take a clone to clean up on agar. . .


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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: Bobbit]
    #26262145 - 10/18/19 11:06 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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SporePrince said:
The first post in this thread says "The first thing users of this forum should know is how to post a picture and how to resize a picture". Both links go to "not found". Are there new links somewhere?



Sorry ill have to fix that. Ill probably forget so if you can message me so i have it there as a reminder

Resizing just means cropping or making smaller to upload in the first place. Cropping to make them look better too.


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Hi bod,

Any advice? I see green coming into my first shoebox that grew pins. . .
 

The top still looks fine, though I know its coming.


Any point trying for
A print or 2
Or fruiting?
Will take a clone to clean up on agar. . .



Yea all of that is fine to do. It will be toss soon. But you can print any mature shrooms you get, clone em, etc..

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26262459 - 10/19/19 06:41 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Cheers will see what happens. . .


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Re: Where to Start Flow Chart and helpful links also ask your questions here Q&A [Re: Bobbit]
    #26263592 - 10/19/19 03:28 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Great stuff here. Just followed the info and kept it clean. Tried popcorn first with some GT. and some AA+. Saw crazy mycellium growth within 2 days of innoc.on the GT's. Its been a week with no signs of mycellium on the AA+ jars.also on corn. Squirted some leftover GT's into some oats I prepped but were pretty clumpy. Might be AA+s. Got mixed up. We'll know soon I suppose. I have pictures but I dont understand how to link them. I'm sure u get it without needing pictures. Prepared more oats to be nocd and G2G. Thanks man. Great stuff. Got my spores from MillyWyco on sporetraders. Solid. I have some PENisEnvy, Mckennai, South American, Albino A+, Golden Teacher's spore syringes left. I'm learning slowly thanks to you guys. Should I go the Agar route with the PE? I WANT THEM TO BE BIG VEINY MOFUKKAS.
Any benefits to using oats vs. corn or WBS? I started to do the wbs but saw that penis farm from oats and aborted that seed real quick. Hippies swear by wbs.

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26263739 - 10/19/19 04:49 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the clarity. For spore germination on agar what is the ratio of dry ingredients using BRF and AA, for 500mL of water?

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: sleepforrest]
    #26263743 - 10/19/19 04:50 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Give or take 2% by weight of each 500ml water is 500g

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: sleepforrest]
    #26263792 - 10/19/19 05:11 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Where do you keep your spored plates while waiting for germination? Is this the same place you keep em for after transferring a wedge to agar for cleaning up culture process?

If starting with sporing 10 plates to get something viable to transfer to new plates to obtain clean culture for purposes of spawning to bulk, then that most likely won't require transferring all 10 plates.

What are the next couple steps for the plates that get wedges cut out to transfer for cleaning up culture process? And what are some steps to use for the plates that don't get selected for the cleaning up of culture process?

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: sleepforrest]
    #26263802 - 10/19/19 05:16 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

So that's 10 grams of BRF and 10 grams of AA totaling 20 grams of dry mixing with 500mL of water, correct? Will this be more on the watery or firm side?

Does it cause any significant problems to filter the mix before using it? Filtering it does lose some water, should more water be added to the mix to get it back up to 500mL?

Regarding the amount of mix to pour per dish, is the goal just to cover the entire bottom?

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: sleepforrest]
    #26264293 - 10/19/19 09:48 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

sleepforrest said:
Where do you keep your spored plates while waiting for germination? Is this the same place you keep em for after transferring a wedge to agar for cleaning up culture process?

If starting with sporing 10 plates to get something viable to transfer to new plates to obtain clean culture for purposes of spawning to bulk, then that most likely won't require transferring all 10 plates.

What are the next couple steps for the plates that get wedges cut out to transfer for cleaning up culture process? And what are some steps to use for the plates that don't get selected for the cleaning up of culture process?



They go on a shelf. No difference for any stage.

The other plates you don't use and the ones you transfered from go in the trash.


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So that's 10 grams of BRF and 10 grams of AA totaling 20 grams of dry mixing with 500mL of water, correct? Will this be more on the watery or firm side?

Does it cause any significant problems to filter the mix before using it? Filtering it does lose some water, should more water be added to the mix to get it back up to 500mL?

Regarding the amount of mix to pour per dish, is the goal just to cover the entire bottom?



Depends on your agar.

Filtering loses a extremely insignificant amount of water

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Re: [STICKY] ⚠ Where to Start Flow Chart, QnA, and helpful links ⚠ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26265247 - 10/20/19 11:27 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks a lot for your help.

If using Telephone brand AA powder and BRF with 500mL of water, then how many grams of Telephone to use and how many grams of BRF?

I've read that the amount of dry ingredients should depend on the purpose, for spores more wet and for wedges more firm. Is this best practice in your experience?

And regarding the amount to pour per dish, is the goal to simply cover the bottom of the dish?

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