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Re: Very helpful collection of information [Re: MushrooMom]
    #24777233 - 11/12/17 07:03 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Question!

Why is PF Tek (without agar) recommend but grains (without agar) are not recommended (MS).

I initially assumed contam risk but its about the same with proper PC and sterile procedure, no?

I would have no problem with MS if all syringes were clean, it turns out pretty potent usually IME. But my last two syringes  caused the exact same type of mold in every jar at the same time (developing with the myc, and being green by like day 4-5), usually with sterile procedure its like some make it some dont but contams usually dont develop in complete uniform like an LC. (from what ive witnessed)

Anyway this is really cool. Just wonder why grain is discouraged without making agar first? Assuming you soak, PC it for longer (70-90 mins etc). It used to be that after mastering PF tek i recall being encouraged to learn grain + coir MS.

This was years ago though. I see how shroomery is always evolving, and the existence of this forum has helped me so much :smile:


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Re: Very helpful collection of information [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24784689 - 11/15/17 12:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Great point, i can see why.

I feel like grain jars can handle a minute amount of contams but not LC's (theyll just spread the contams). but yes its when theyre shaken that the contams really show themselves. Grain jars can look clean until shaking


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Re: Where to Start Flow Chart and helpful links also ask your questions here Q&A [Re: UnsungHero]
    #24893732 - 01/06/18 09:17 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Good job Unsung!

Welcome to the wide world of mycology :smile:

My first attempt was just like 8 PF Jars, Cambodians, man that was fire actually! Since it was MS (syringe) i grew cambos again and they were awesome but that first time, amazing. Theyre great with cakes, i think more prolific.

With a tub, cambos always come out huge AF and not terribly prolific, but potent and has a "happy" vibe (yeah, yeah, psychosomatic maybe, but cambos rule)


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Re: Where to Start Flow Chart and helpful links also ask your questions here Q&A [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25011882 - 02/21/18 09:24 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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fraufranfroufrou said:
I'm new and will be starting with a spore syringe and agar. However, a couple posts I've read have talked about bad genetics leading to poor results for first timers, so I'm wondering if there is a way to improve the genetics before I do a full grow, like using agar or a bunch of small grains jars to select for faster growing/healthier mycelium? Is that even a thing? I didn't find much through the search function.




It's not just for first timers.

If you start with multispore you can select the biggest cluster or fastest growing fruit to clone and limit the gene pool.




Since youre using agar, once you transfer, its not really multispore anymore. If you do a good transfer, you can have a great project just with syringe > agar > 1 xfer > grain. Which can be done pretty quick.

You dont have to use agar, you can shoot up the grains if its a clean enough syringe. I mean, worked for me so many times. Regardless of recommended or not, and many of those MS grows were awesome. That said, these days im more about agar, but thats after years of mostly just multispore


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Re: Where to Start Flow Chart and helpful links also ask your questions here Q&A [Re: C12H16N20]
    #25015093 - 02/23/18 02:52 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

This is an amazing flow chart, i pretty much know this by heart but i still look from time to time.

If this existed when i just started out, would be awesome. Was more like "1) PF tek 2) grains + coir 3) agar to grains/coir" some people would focus on agar before grains but i was always more about learning bulk grows, MS or not.

Working the monotub for the first time was so awesome. Well first was a cheap dubtub lol, same results. But alot more annoying taking it apart and taping back together


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