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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #24439161 - 06/27/17 12:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: vatman] * 1
    #24439248 - 06/27/17 12:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I am trying to figure out the pros and cons of different oyster mushroom fruiting methods so I can decide for my new indoor mushroom farm. I do not have experience with stacking bags like a wall

Straw logs:
+cheap
+easy/fast to make
-average yields unless supplemented
-heavy and difficult to hang/move

Sawdust+bran blocks on shelf:
+medium costs
+nice yields
-need to be sterilized
-more time consuming to prepare

Wall of sawdust blocks:(never done this)
same as blocks on shelf just a larger quantity?
smaller fruiting space for each bag resulting in smaller clusters?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Chwyn] * 1
    #24439258 - 06/27/17 12:34 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

"needs to be sterilized", that bugs the hell out of me too, I can say there are alternatives.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather] * 1
    #24439310 - 06/27/17 12:52 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

care to elaborate on alternatives? Sterilizing doesnt bother be too much besides the fact that it takes a whole new set of equipment compared to pouring boiling water on straw. Anytime I want to scale up production Ill need to invest in a larger sterilizer since its inefficient to run a large sterilizer for small batches.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Chwyn] * 1
    #24439335 - 06/27/17 01:00 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Soluble nutrients, mycelium won't mind as long as the composition is usable (which they are), check the label.
Here is my composition of common materials, and a comparison, make your own choices.

Imagine adding nutrients without adding starch and sugar.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather] * 1
    #24439438 - 06/27/17 01:29 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Also just to note, the recipe's in my pocket guide are based on a recipe from Gr0wer (credit him).
I simply removed the starch-sugar based products and increased the dose used.

The design and and further research are based on the result.
It has no relation to any other recipe found here.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather] * 1
    #24439588 - 06/27/17 02:47 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I might just use a drill. I'm still new to electronics design and analog electronics is my weak spot.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: vatman] * 1
    #24441650 - 06/28/17 09:04 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Man, those Chinese units are sweet but pricey.  It would be cool to see if anyone has pieced one together...

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #24441777 - 06/28/17 10:17 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

The cheapest one I found shipped to a port was 720, import fee would be above 100, plus freight service that would run about 200. Would be more cost effective to ghetto build one.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: vatman] * 1
    #24442994 - 06/28/17 07:08 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I'm thinking about growing in. A grow tent in a bedroom. Does anyone know anyone doing this?

I know a bit about grow tents for plants but thinking about the difference s like what to do with pooling water inside? Towel it up once in a while?

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Base Icks] * 1
    #24443464 - 06/28/17 10:45 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I'm growing in a small habor freight brand plant greenhouse. I grew in a home-made one of similar size a couple years ago and it worked fine, just need to keep up on fresh air exchange ( my oysters had small fruiting bodies) but it worked well enough.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Kevs0923] * 1
    #24443475 - 06/28/17 10:49 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I wrapped bottom in 4 mil plastic sheeting and clean it out as needed so it doesn't get funky.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Kevs0923] * 1
    #24444056 - 06/29/17 08:38 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone tell me what's up with this King oyster tub?
Seems to be producing metabolites.
Should I give it more air? Maybe put it outside at night when the temps are lower? It's currently in the same room with my other projects. Around 70-85f on average, 60-80rh.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: jkz] * 1
    #24444060 - 06/29/17 08:42 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Kings like cool temperatures, in the 60's to pin


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: jkz] * 1
    #24444742 - 06/29/17 02:18 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Sometimes that happens when the substrate is really moist. I would put it out at night when its cool. Kings like around 65-75F in my experience


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Chwyn] * 1
    #24445221 - 06/29/17 05:06 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds good guys.
I'll be keeping it in my bedroom with the AC on In the day time, I'll put it outside at night.
This is the only tub of kings I'll be running until the temps go down and I can comfortably fruit them in my spare room.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Kevs0923] * 1
    #24462994 - 07/06/17 06:55 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I'm going to try to add a picture here. I have some King Stopharia colonizing a mix I made for indoors. Any suggestions on a Casing, I've seen a few different mixes but nothing for indoor that might be just right for me.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Chwyn] * 1
    #24464861 - 07/07/17 11:25 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Chwyn said:
Wall of sawdust blocks:(never done this)
same as blocks on shelf just a larger quantity?
smaller fruiting space for each bag resulting in smaller clusters?



I can't speak to this through personal experience, but I have been researching shelving styles for my new indoor FC chamber and there's lots of talk (not just on this forum, books too) on overheating.
One of the threads I read RR said that he absolutely needs a gap in between each bag in the summer otherwise they overheat, especially for spawn run. He said in the winter he actually puts his bags closer together to benefit from that overheating.
Lots of growers crowd their bags, (like Gr0wer and Drake and most of the farms I see on instagram) but still that's only 2/6 sides that are touching.
Also, about "smaller space=smaller fruit", it's more related to the number of holes in the bag to substrate ratio. In Thailand and India (youtube, not been there) you see farmers using those cylindrical bags and staking them way high and fruiting just 1 big cluster out the front.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #24464874 - 07/07/17 11:30 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Mycolorado said:
Anyone used grow tents as fruiters? Pros/Cons?



https://grocycle.com/how-to-set-up-a-low-tech-mushroom-farm/
Scroll halfway down that page and you see a video of them setting up a FC in a grow tent. They don't install any ducting though. But there's no reason it wouldn't work if you did. Just duct the spores outside. At the very bottom the link says to provide your email to get access to a tour of their "mini-grow", I didn't do it but let me know if you do lol.


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Also, any commercially viable Pleurotus, cold or hot strains.
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: flyontoast] * 1
    #24479872 - 07/13/17 09:21 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I'm going to try a cedar wood test soon, and treat it like pine, I intend to breakdown the inhibitory acids until pH 7-8 is achieved, and then see if mycelium will utilize it.

Inhibitory materials: Plicatic acid, Thujaplicatin methyl ether, γ-Thujaplicin, β-Thujaplicin, β-Thujaplicinol, Thujic acid, Methyl thujate.




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