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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Shrimps] * 1
    #28188941 - 02/15/23 04:01 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

yes same process,  you'll want to suplement your hardwood fuel pellets with soy hulls or some wheat bran... I use master's mix for the most part


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Leftfield420]
    #28188970 - 02/15/23 04:19 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

What ratio of wheat bran:fp`?


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    #28188999 - 02/15/23 04:33 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

3-5% I believe, I haven't mixed my own up in a while... master's mix is a 50/50 blend of hwfp and soy hulls..


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Shrimps] * 1
    #28189308 - 02/15/23 07:34 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

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So, since I could save my LM mycelium I was wondering, how to proceed now. What would be the best approach and substrate?

Supplemented hardwood

I was thinking if growing in a mico bag and then for fruiting putting it in a Monotub filled with a bit of water and just letting it fruit out of the top of the bag (would be cutting the bag at substrate level). And as substrate I was thinking of just using Firepellet which are made out of different needle trees or hardwood sawdust(for reptile terrariums).


as long as its hardwood it should work, LM needs a lot of FAE for good fruit so your tub grow may not work very well. typically side fruited off a block to avoid CO2 build up


Can I just dropp the Agar wedges into Rye Grain like when growing cubes? Sorry I am totaly new to these^^


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: MushieMafia]
    #28189706 - 02/16/23 02:52 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

So LM wouldn't like to grow on needlewood where the resin is washed out? Kinda hard to find stuff with hardwood around my place >.< Hardwood chips where already hard to find, and hwfp are non exsitent. Everything is made out of mostly firs, wont that work?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Shrimps] * 1
    #28189713 - 02/16/23 03:09 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Most of my mycelia grow happily on Spruce sawdust from sawdust bricks, so it should be fine. As long as most of the volatiles have evaporated.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Adas]
    #28189719 - 02/16/23 03:15 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Yeah, it's sawdust for reptiles actually, so no resins and dust and very clean. Would it be bad if it were like fine perlite-like woodpieces and not dust/shavings? Like here https://www.chipsi.de/chipsi_de/produkte/chipsi-extra-small.php

then I could use that hw and no Spruce-fuel-pellets ^^ What would be preferred?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Shrimps] * 1
    #28189721 - 02/16/23 03:20 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

I think the extra small chipsi would definitely work. But LM hates larger wood pieces from my experience.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Adas]
    #28190070 - 02/16/23 11:04 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

I read alot that people also use like sawdust/strawpellets/wheat bran for substrate bags. My question, why are they using straw? Would that be for example good for reishi and lm aswell or is it better to go just sawdust/wheat bran for those?

Found a source for oak-sawdust ^^ so I am awaiting now 5kg of that. I just happen to have some strawpellets and was wondering if I could use them aswell to mix it with the sawdust?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Shrimps]
    #28190087 - 02/16/23 11:20 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

googles straw pellets. I didn't know those existed but hey why not?
Let me guess you guys are bucket teking these too?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: bw86]
    #28190089 - 02/16/23 11:21 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

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googles straw pellets. I didn't know those existed but hey why not?
Let me guess you guys are bucket teking these too?




No need they'd be heat treated when they were pelletized

Hot water will help them break down easier


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Guerrilla]
    #28190098 - 02/16/23 11:29 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

I was thinking of doing Jooce's Masters Mix Substrate TEK and just replaceing the soybean hulls through wheat bran/straw.

Not sure yet how much wheatbran, but someone mentioned above 3%-5%, so was thinking making a bag with 50/50 sawdust/strawpellets and 3% wheatbran, and one bag with 100%sawdust and 5% Wheatbran :shrug:

Was planing on inoculating with RyeGrainspawn.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Shrimps] * 1
    #28190105 - 02/16/23 11:32 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

I think even finely shredded straw won't be as packable as sawdust. Depends on type of sawdust too, ofc, and for some applications you actually want larger air gaps, like for large buckets. I see no reason to use straw other than availability. Here sawdust is just too cheap.

When making small buckets, I pack the sawdust very tight, when making larger buckets (10+ liters), pack it lightly or not at all. It just depends on many things.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Adas]
    #28190113 - 02/16/23 11:38 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Was planning on spawning the LM in a JOC Chamber like tote^^ Haven't got space for a tent xD My Idea was just placeing the colonized bag on a rack and cut the side of the bag.

So you're saying, I could actually mix in the straw pellets just to strech out the saw dust that I have and because I have em laying around? Or would it be rather a bad idea since the substrate wouldn't be able to be packed tight enough?

Edit: And am I correct in the assumption that Reishi could be grown on the same sub as LM?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Shrimps]
    #28190150 - 02/16/23 12:12 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

You don't necessarily need a packed sub, but the yields are usually going to be worse. Mushrooms are 90% water and the fluffier the sub, the less water it holds, generally speaking. I'd say just go ahead and experiment. If you have the space and resources, do a side-by-side. That will be valuable and will teach you things I can't tell you here.

Yes Reishi will eat damn near every ligno-cellulosic material.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Adas]
    #28190159 - 02/16/23 12:20 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Awesome :laugh: Now I just have to get a culture xD


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Shrimps] * 2
    #28190187 - 02/16/23 12:46 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

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I read alot that people also use like sawdust/strawpellets/wheat bran for substrate bags. My question, why are they using straw? Would that be for example good for reishi and lm aswell or is it better to go just sawdust/wheat bran for those?

Found a source for oak-sawdust ^^ so I am awaiting now 5kg of that. I just happen to have some strawpellets and was wondering if I could use them aswell to mix it with the sawdust?




You can mix with sawdust. Straw has an effect on BE for some species:





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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 6
    #28191129 - 02/17/23 07:49 AM (11 months, 4 days ago)

14 year old dried grains.
Why not try it right? Back in 2009 I was playing with Lentinus tigrinus. I made a bunch of these dried grain bobbles and was mailing them out. This was back in the day when you can drop small packages in the blue corner mail boxes. I would put these bobbles in a my empty Newport packs, wrap it up, slap on a stamp and mail em off. One point years later someone mailed me back a bobble that had been passed around as a freebie. Assumingely no-one wanted it or new how to use dried grain? 
At that point I didn't care about it either, especially after imagining the journey the thing went on. I put it in a junk drawer and forgot about it.
Skip to today. Im looking at this relic and really want to know; is it alive ? Hope so, it's a fun story. Today I will drop some kernels on dishes. The bobble use to be clear. With age it has gone opaque so I couldn't get a good shot.
If it does wake up I will make a proper post but for now there s no reason.



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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: bw86]
    #28191185 - 02/17/23 08:26 AM (11 months, 4 days ago)

:popcorn:


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    #28191250 - 02/17/23 09:13 AM (11 months, 4 days ago)

Hell yeah mate! Another long term culture storage experiment! I love it! :rockon:


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