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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather] 3
#26356970 - 12/02/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Found these out hunting for cyanesens. 😁
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: SunnyDayze]
#26358600 - 12/03/19 07:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Extra info, a whole bunch of images, and how Golden oyster can tell you if your setup is right.
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Parent: Pleurotus cornucopiae (Branched Oyster) | Variations: Pleurotus euosmus (Tarragon Oyster), Pleurotus citrinopileatus (Golden Oyster).
Here is a single Golden oyster base, look closely and notice the new caps on stems (press the square at the bottom right of the image to zoom).
The indoor ones needed much more oxygen and light, the fruit bodies stretched towards oxygen, and are pale. The images below are the same block, but cased and outdoors (see here).


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Here is another grow, when I used an enriched casing (nitrogen), to promote fruiting. And also wild Summer oyster benefiting from nitrogen fixating algae.



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Here I did an experiment, and filled the container with water (floating block).

Plenty of oxygen and water, not enough light.
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather] 2
#26359087 - 12/03/19 01:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey nice work ferather! Let me know if you wanna dig into the topic of how substances in substrate can determine smell, taste and color of mushrooms (on a chemical level), some day when we both have plenty of time.. 
other than that I got wine caps growing on expanded spawn (grains to supp wood shavings), beech mushrooms (brown strain) - they are running very well as the spawn rate was very generous. Although i still think the Hypsizygus is just generally a pretty weak colonizer compared to others.. or it absolutely hates my culture fridge.
on friday got a meeting about the growroom i built for my main client, i also calculated prices i will ask for the package deal of providing the substrate and consultancy. tomorrow i will continue working on the bagging and steam sterilizing room to be constructed (simply, for starters).
And finally I am getting more understanding of do's and don'ts in a flowhood, there were some things i was not picking up on but i see it now - it helps to analyze airflow better (mentally).. also just getting more routine! Anxious to see whether any of my experiments to UV sterilize used plastic dishes has worked out so far. But if nothing else, irradiating cultures also seems potentially amazing.
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Solipsis] 1
#26368995 - 12/08/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have an arrow shed that is similar enough, for the purposes of this discussion, to this shed here:

You see in the picture there's the peaked triangular roof. I've run foam boards across the base of that triangle, and have put rockwool insulation on the sides (the metal roof panels), leaving a small (small) pocket of an attic space above my fruiting room.
I now need to install my fresh air intake fan, and I'm not sure whether it's best to run a duct directly from the outside (which can be as cold as 10F or as hot as 100F in my climate), or if I'm able to just put the fan in my foam board cieling, and cut an air intake hole - just above the doors in the picture - that leads into the attic, relying on the suction of the moving fan to pull in air from outside when I need it. I think this would result in slightly more acclimated air geting pulled into my room (at least until the fan flushes it out), but I'm not sure if it's worthwile. I also worry that any gain from incubating the air in the attic would be lost as it might just become a CO2 pocket between the fans running intervals, requiring me to have to run my fan longer to get sufficient FAE (and thus potentially destroying any gain in incubating air). And lastly, I don't know how doing something like this may affect my fan's CFM rating.
Just looking for tips on best practices before proceeding, thanks I just really don't like the idea of pulling air of such extreme temps straight into my room with no sort of incubation period, but I'm not sure what else to do. There's an adjacent room next to my fruiting room (and still within the shed, built a partition), but it's currently unheated. I've thought about making it a dual purpose room where I incubate some fresh air then pump it into my fruiting room, but the problem with that is that the room is DIGUSTING and is dedicated to gross things like mixing concrete and plaster, and I dont' want to kick that dust up and push it into my fruiting room.
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: junk_f00d]
#26369432 - 12/08/19 04:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm also wondering how the shed above should be adjusted to allow for ventilation. Initially I was going to water/bug proof it and seal up every last gap, but now I'm unsure of what's optimal - do I want to have some sort of ventilation going on, or since I'm going to pulling in fresh air mechancially instead of naturally am I OK to seal everything up?
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: junk_f00d]
#26370351 - 12/09/19 07:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Found some grass seed in my garage, and decided I will try it with Tarragon oyster, just to see if it works. Grass seed is expensive in comparison to other spawn, so I wouldn't suggest it.
Normally, for hobby growing I use small bird seed or brown rice.
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: SunnyDayze] 1
#26375106 - 12/11/19 01:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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lovely picture, what a nice find!
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Re: <font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread</font></font> [Re: junk_f00d]
#26378312 - 12/12/19 11:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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junk_f00d said: I have an arrow shed that is similar enough, for the purposes of this discussion, to this shed here:

You see in the picture there's the peaked triangular roof. I've run foam boards across the base of that triangle, and have put rockwool insulation on the sides (the metal roof panels), leaving a small (small) pocket of an attic space above my fruiting room.
I now need to install my fresh air intake fan, and I'm not sure whether it's best to run a duct directly from the outside (which can be as cold as 10F or as hot as 100F in my climate), or if I'm able to just put the fan in my foam board cieling, and cut an air intake hole - just above the doors in the picture - that leads into the attic, relying on the suction of the moving fan to pull in air from outside when I need it. I think this would result in slightly more acclimated air geting pulled into my room (at least until the fan flushes it out), but I'm not sure if it's worthwile. I also worry that any gain from incubating the air in the attic would be lost as it might just become a CO2 pocket between the fans running intervals, requiring me to have to run my fan longer to get sufficient FAE (and thus potentially destroying any gain in incubating air). And lastly, I don't know how doing something like this may affect my fan's CFM rating.
Just looking for tips on best practices before proceeding, thanks I just really don't like the idea of pulling air of such extreme temps straight into my room with no sort of incubation period, but I'm not sure what else to do. There's an adjacent room next to my fruiting room (and still within the shed, built a partition), but it's currently unheated. I've thought about making it a dual purpose room where I incubate some fresh air then pump it into my fruiting room, but the problem with that is that the room is DIGUSTING and is dedicated to gross things like mixing concrete and plaster, and I dont' want to kick that dust up and push it into my fruiting room.
I would say: take the setup that means the least effort. Then you try a load of bags. And look further.
I have completely sealed my garage ... now I always have the door open ...
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Re: <font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread</font></font> [Re: mariapilz]
#26384509 - 12/16/19 05:11 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey... I'd like to grow my own lion's mane (I intend to eat it in place of most of my meat consumption, not just take it as a supplement, so I need a lot), but I currently live in a city apartment. I'm familiar with growing cubensis, but it's very CO2 tolerant compared to lion's mane, so I'm considering building a lightweight fruiting chamber.
I've searched around for Martha and FC discussions, but it seems like nobody is agreeing on anything about these. Plus, the ubiquitous Martha clothes rack is unavailable where I live. Could someone point me to a definitive thread that's not about someone messing around and others telling him he's being stupid?
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Re: <font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread</font></font> [Re: PsyduckMonkey]
#26384845 - 12/16/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18322939
lions mane do great in a martha style tent. I would go that route over tubs
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Re: <font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread</font></font> [Re: PsyduckMonkey]
#26384853 - 12/16/19 10:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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idk about a thread sry..
there are mini greenhouses aside from the clothes units, if you can't find those either and not even online at major marketplace platforms then build one yourself using foil and conduits and stuff.
about the extra low CO2 all i can say is i definitely recommend looking into an integrated system for the ventilation and humidification otherwise it just sucks so much to keep the humidity up as you try to provide a lot of dry FAE. so something like a humidibucket, that way basically there is not a real limit to how much FAE may be possible.
i would just revive a good thread or start one or something, and gather the opinions and analyze what is best for you. looking for a definitive answer which applies to absolutely all situations is rarely the way to go. understanding why people do certain things differently (which isnt to say some solutions are better than others for certain problems)... that should give you choice and insight.
Good luck! LM is very interesting and nice. 
I got 2 new Hericium species and now also a 5th one that i am trying to culture from the wild: Hericium cirrhatum. (The tiered tooth fungus) i hope its tier 1 or at least 2..
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Re: <font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread</font></font> [Re: Solipsis]
#26390749 - 12/19/19 01:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Pleurotus citrinopileatus first grow, all cakes overlayed, even one cased with coco. 1+ week in growbox. What am I doing wrong? Thinking about cold shock + scrape overlay. Temp is 23-25, same as cubes.
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Re: <font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread</font></font> [Re: Mycellenium]
#26400400 - 12/25/19 11:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Black Reishi jumping onto WBS.
Blue Oyster colonizing straw. This is the culture that was full of bacteria!

Both are about 3 days in.
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Re: <font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread</font></font> [Re: Greg]
#26408987 - 12/31/19 09:05 AM (4 years, 29 days ago) |
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I grew some reishi by mistake in some mastersmix
Can you tell me if its old as the white bit has gone and im not sure when to harvest, and what the best way to use if for health drinks for the future.
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Edmunter]
#26409174 - 12/31/19 11:19 AM (4 years, 29 days ago) |
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Hey all I made a post in marketplace looking to trade heirloom and organic vegetable seeds for gourmet mushroom cultures.
I thought that I may get a few extra bites if I posted here as well. If this against the rules of this thread, sorry, delete me.
Here is what I have to offer:
Imperial Star Artichokes
Golden Bush Scallop Summer Squash
Catskill Long Island Improved Brussel Sprouts
Alabama Red Okra
Costoluto Fiorentino Tomato
Napolean Sweet Pepper
Blue Clarage Dent Corn
Rosita Eggplant
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Quote:
MyNameIsntTrashcan said: Hey all I made a post in marketplace looking to trade heirloom and organic vegetable seeds for gourmet mushroom cultures.
I thought that I may get a few extra bites if I posted here as well. If this against the rules of this thread, sorry, delete me.
Here is what I have to offer:
Imperial Star Artichokes
Golden Bush Scallop Summer Squash
Catskill Long Island Improved Brussel Sprouts
Alabama Red Okra
Costoluto Fiorentino Tomato
Napolean Sweet Pepper
Blue Clarage Dent Corn
Rosita Eggplant
Where are you from.
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Edmunter]
#26409307 - 12/31/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 29 days ago) |
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Edmunter said:
Quote:
MyNameIsntTrashcan said: Hey all I made a post in marketplace looking to trade heirloom and organic vegetable seeds for gourmet mushroom cultures.
I thought that I may get a few extra bites if I posted here as well. If this against the rules of this thread, sorry, delete me.
Here is what I have to offer:
Imperial Star Artichokes
Golden Bush Scallop Summer Squash
Catskill Long Island Improved Brussel Sprouts
Alabama Red Okra
Costoluto Fiorentino Tomato
Napolean Sweet Pepper
Blue Clarage Dent Corn
Rosita Eggplant
Where are you from.
'Murica
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Greg said: Black Reishi jumping onto WBS.
Blue Oyster colonizing straw. This is the culture that was full of bacteria!

Both are about 3 days in.

Pins!

The black reishi jars are recovering from a shake very well. They're growing just as fast as my red reishi did years ago.
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Greg] 1
#26417595 - 01/05/20 01:51 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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First post in this thread, got king oyster on t-gel agar that I cheekily cloned from a shop bought fruit. Never grown these before I’ve been doing some reading but wonder if people have any advice or can point me in the direction of some decent teks 
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Smoothcat]
#26417611 - 01/05/20 02:02 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Smoothcat said: First post in this thread, got king oyster on t-gel agar that I cheekily cloned from a shop bought fruit. Never grown these before I’ve been doing some reading but wonder if people have any advice or can point me in the direction of some decent teks 

Do you grow from a martha? Best way is to colonise something like masters mix in a bag, and when fully colonised cold shock. turn upside down cut the top of a fruit . Like other oysters they like frsh air but you need to make a humid area. You can do this with a pond foggers in a lidded bucket with a a hose coming out of it.
I did this for a while but it does take some maintenance. If you want something easy, get a grey oyster clone, t to grains, cold lime pasteurize straw and spawn to a bucket/old paint tin with holes tapped, colonise, take the tape off and these will grow anywhere without humidity.
You can see in my sig pictures some examples. We never run out of them.
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