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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24721771 - 10/19/17 11:49 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet thanks Mycolorado. I was thinking of doing an LI with my blender attachment and putting that to oats and then spawning that to fuel pellet bags. Will oysters do well on supplemented fuel pellets or should I just skip the grain step and go straight to fuel pellets with the LI?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Steevo]
    #24721800 - 10/19/17 12:01 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Fosho!  They do well on sup'd fuel pellets.  I've never tried with LI, but don't see why it wouldn't work with a high sup rate.  I'd wait for others to chime in with their opinions on that...I always use grain spawn as well as sup.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24721936 - 10/19/17 12:49 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Skip the LI in my opinion, go to agar then grain. The LI will make it difficult to view any contamination.
You can also make a small sample of end media (eg: wood + bran), and use it like agar.

You can essentially isolate growth on your end media before starting.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather] * 1
    #24722004 - 10/19/17 01:19 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Speaking of Pleurotus, some shots of the nebros from today.  It'll be interesting to see what they produce.  These are 5 lb blocks supplemented with 30% wheat bran and only inoculated with 1/3 qt. of oat spawn each.



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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24722042 - 10/19/17 01:34 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I'm looking forward to making more KO isolates. Especially if it fruits at around 20°C, and also outside.


Some maths, correct me where wrong please:

2,268 grams (5 lb), - 70% = 680g wheat bran, 1,588g wood.

Wheat bran: 680g - 35.2% = 440, 440 - 55.55% = 195g carbon, - 97.4% = 17.68g nitrogen.
Wood, all types: 1,588 / 2 = 794g carbon, 1588 - 99.9% = 1.58g nitrogen.

794 + 195 = [989g] carbon | 1.58 + 17.68 = [19.26g] nitrogen.

989 / 19.26 = 51:1 carbon to nitrogen.



Will be closer to 48:1 with the spawn.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather]
    #24722097 - 10/19/17 01:55 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Data share:

Wood ash (soluble, semi-soluble), with 25-45% CaCO3 conversion:



CaO (Calcium oxide)
K2O (Potassium oxide)
P2O5 (Phosphorus pentoxide)
MgO (Magnesium oxide)
Fe2O3 (Iron(III) oxide)
SO3 (Sulfur trioxide)
SiO2 (Silicon dioxide)
Na2O (Sodium oxide)
Al2O3 (Aluminium oxide)
TiO3 (Titanium oxide)

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Adds nutrients, but no nitrogen, missing vitamins and other essentials.
Calcium content increases pH of water-substrates, (CaCO3).

K2O + P2O5, sometimes MgO are present in fertilizers.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24722184 - 10/19/17 02:32 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Man I've got to get some Nebro and kings started! Your killing me!
Are you watering those or anything? I assume it's still cold there?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Quadman]
    #24722217 - 10/19/17 02:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

It is cooling off each day, though we had a good stretch the last 5 days or so in the 70s.  The week prior it was unseasonably cold.  This weekend will be it for the good weather.  I've been spraying/soaking the casing twice a day and debating whether or not to actually water them yet..not really sure how much to add...guess I'll weigh them tonight.  These are turning out to be pretty cool...I'm going to have to get a portable ac or something to try to grow them indoor.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24722236 - 10/19/17 02:51 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather]
    #24722511 - 10/19/17 04:28 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Send or Store:

Two types of wood pegs and a colonized WL-Tek sample, being sent to a friend.

One set of pegs from T-Gel, the other cellulose agar alternative.
Small peices can be taken from the WL-Tek sample.

Being transfered to agar, then grain.



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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather]
    #24722568 - 10/19/17 04:49 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Has anyone used cold pasteurization for supplemented fuel pellets or is sterilization a must? Attempting an oyster grow and considering soaking fuel pellets in soapy water


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Steevo]
    #24722578 - 10/19/17 04:51 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I think vatman was-is testing the alternatives, you could ask him what he has found so far.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather]
    #24722782 - 10/19/17 06:00 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

sawdust can be pasteurized its the supplements that need sterilization. you can get away with lipa tea with some supplementation, 10-20% at times, oysters will probably do fine but shiitake and lion's mane are slow to compete with contains. contamination rates may be higher as well.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: anthiawe]
    #24722792 - 10/19/17 06:05 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

that bag of nebs looks amazing mycolorado. I'm cheering for over 1lb for your 1/3 quart of spawn!

are you growing these outdoors in bags or just taking them out for photoshoots?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: anthiawe]
    #24722866 - 10/19/17 06:28 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, anth!  They’re outdoors in a deep window well.  They started forming huge knot clusters all over the top of the block around 2 weeks after inoculation at which point I cased and tossed into fruiting at around 70F.  They sat there for a week or 2 idle so I moved them outside a little over a week ago when it was pretty cold...definitely froze a couple nights. Then it warmed up and they started to rise.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24724315 - 10/20/17 11:16 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

The bags weighed in right around 5 pounds 3+ ounces...so they're right about where they've been...not too concerned about watering them just yet.  The 2 bags that were behind are now pushing up quite a few pins.  The contrast between the creamy white stipe and the dark grey, mottled caps is beautiful.





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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24724456 - 10/20/17 12:35 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I'd say you got eryngii there.  Nebrodeni have cream colored caps from what I've seen.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: drake89]
    #24724562 - 10/20/17 01:17 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid: that is what I'm thinking ,they look dark:frown: that sucks. No chance of a mix up?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Quadman]
    #24724595 - 10/20/17 01:31 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I've been thinking the same as the caps are so dark.  It's the culture I got from you, Quadman...only one I have(not unhappy).  Couple grasshoppers munched a nice cap but I terminated them...hopefully no more of that shit.

edit: Might explain why ashville pulled them...


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24725850 - 10/20/17 08:59 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Check this out....got some oyster pins on grain water agar... 11 days after the 4th transfer...pretty cool...


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