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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: FiatFirmamentum] * 1
    #26109482 - 07/15/19 11:19 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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You can just clone store-bought mushrooms.




I can't buy pink oysters or lion's mane in the store..


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: junk_f00d]
    #26109601 - 07/15/19 12:31 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I need shiitakes ready to harvest by august 2nd, any recommendations for fully colonized fruiting block sellers?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: junk_f00d] * 1
    #26109607 - 07/15/19 12:38 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I need shiitakes ready to harvest by august 2nd, any recommendations for fully colonized fruiting block sellers?



Harvest by August 2nd... 😳

With shipping time in there, even if you found fully colonized AND matured blocks, you'd be hard pressed to fruit them by then.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Spindlymass] * 1
    #26109748 - 07/15/19 02:16 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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With shipping time in there, even if you found fully colonized AND matured blocks, you'd be hard pressed to fruit them by then.



Really? I mean, fully colonized and mature, I could just throw 'em straight into fruiting conditions the day they arrive (say, 7 days from now, so July 22nd) - eh, you're probably right. ~10 days isn't much time, but it might be worth a shot.

At any rate, 'need' was a strong word. A more appropriate phrasing would've been 'would be nice to have', as it is a good day for marketing (probably the best day of the year for my small town).


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: junk_f00d] * 1
    #26109812 - 07/15/19 02:56 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Fungi Perfecti carries a shiitake block ready to fruit for 26 bucks.  Not sure if they’re “browned” or not but that would be your quickest route either way.  If they are browned you could easily have some fruit by Aug 2.  If you’re trying to start a business this isn’t the way to go about it.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26110601 - 07/15/19 08:40 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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If you’re trying to start a business this isn’t the way to go about it.




Not long term, but Aug 2nd is the best day for marketing all year in my neck of the woods. I would like people to know there's someone growing locally, and I'd like more to show than just my oysters. It's just about getting some eyes on my product on short notice to get some contacts and potential rolling. I am working on my own shiitake grow currently, but they're only just getting started on agar now.

I was recently (like last week) suddenly given access to grow commercially in a small shed, so I've only just started to scale up - prior to this I just grew sporadically throughout the year, so I didn't exactly have many gourmet cultures ready (luckily, I did have some oysters on wbs though!).. I just thought it might be a good idea before the big day. I elaborate because I feel kind of guilty about the idea, like I'd be lying to customers in a sense, and I wasn't sure if your criticism was of business or ethics.

And thanks for the tip!


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: junk_f00d]
    #26110806 - 07/15/19 11:01 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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With shipping time in there, even if you found fully colonized AND matured blocks, you'd be hard pressed to fruit them by then.



Really? I mean, fully colonized and mature, I could just throw 'em straight into fruiting conditions the day they arrive (say, 7 days from now, so July 22nd) - eh, you're probably right. ~10 days isn't much time, but it might be worth a shot.

At any rate, 'need' was a strong word. A more appropriate phrasing would've been 'would be nice to have', as it is a good day for marketing (probably the best day of the year for my small town).





For sure worth a shot!  I shouldn't be negative, but there are some variables there that could make or break hitting the deadline. Namely, blocks being ready, shipping times and your GH setup. Just relying on everything being on point, like an Olympic run makes me nervous:smile: I'm rooting for you though. :super:

good luck with your new shed :thumbup:


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: junk_f00d] * 1
    #26111281 - 07/16/19 09:15 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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If you’re trying to start a business this isn’t the way to go about it.




Not long term, but Aug 2nd is the best day for marketing all year in my neck of the woods. I would like people to know there's someone growing locally, and I'd like more to show than just my oysters. It's just about getting some eyes on my product on short notice to get some contacts and potential rolling. I am working on my own shiitake grow currently, but they're only just getting started on agar now.

I was recently (like last week) suddenly given access to grow commercially in a small shed, so I've only just started to scale up - prior to this I just grew sporadically throughout the year, so I didn't exactly have many gourmet cultures ready (luckily, I did have some oysters on wbs though!).. I just thought it might be a good idea before the big day. I elaborate because I feel kind of guilty about the idea, like I'd be lying to customers in a sense, and I wasn't sure if your criticism was of business or ethics.

And thanks for the tip!




You're better to be honest with people anyway.  Bring the shiitakes and just say that you just finished the grow (if you even need to say anything at all) and that it will be a couple months before you have more, but hey, theres delicious oysters ready! :smile:

There might (will) be a few bumps and hiccups along the way so no promises are the way to go imo.  Be genuine and people will be excited about your passion for growing too.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: SunnyDayze] * 1
    #26111293 - 07/16/19 09:23 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid:

My point was you should learn how to grow and what is involved with producing mushrooms on a scale that would be profitable before trying to start a business.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26112627 - 07/16/19 08:37 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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My point was you should learn how to grow and what is involved with producing mushrooms on a scale that would be profitable before trying to start a business.




Well, there's no magic scaling up, right? I've been growing on and off for ~6 years, so I'm pretty comfortable with the basics (sterile work/agar, spawn prep, incubating + fruiting, etc). I imagine fruiting 20 bags will be the same as fruiting 1, roughly. Right now all of my equipment is still at the hobby scale (SAB, ~20qt pressure cooker (fits 10 jars), etc) but I plan on nabbing a (free) 55gal drum this week for bulk pasturization and I'll continue to upgrade as able and necassary.

I've really been trying to figure this out to make sure things go as smooth as I can manage, and I need all the advice I can get.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: SunnyDayze]
    #26112640 - 07/16/19 08:48 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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You're better to be honest with people anyway.  Bring the shiitakes and just say that you just finished the grow (if you even need to say anything at all) and that it will be a couple months before you have more, but hey, theres delicious oysters ready! :smile:

There might (will) be a few bumps and hiccups along the way so no promises are the way to go imo.  Be genuine and people will be excited about your passion for growing too.




This was the plan, sounds good enough to me. It sucks to be ~2 months out still, but whatever I'm just happy to have the opportunity. Also my hand is now in a splint since a couple days ago so no sterile work for me for awhile. And yes, there are plenty of bumps and craters I can already see (tempature control on an outdoor, non-insulated metal shed being the biggest one, esp in conjunction with wanting to fruit and incubate multiple species in the same small building).


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: junk_f00d]
    #26115423 - 07/18/19 06:43 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Mycelium utilizing calcium carbonate (and bicarbonate, soluble), as a carbon source, from spores. Producing sugars, cells, other.
Added essential non-carbon nutrients (nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, and so on), in a soluble format.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26099668#26099668 (4 posts).


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Ferather]
    #26117650 - 07/19/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

@Myco

Hi mate. Sorry I got off topic in the other thread.
So you mentioned that growing Oysters in any living space is a bad idea because of all the spores.

Does the same go for Lions mane, shiitake also?
Asking because my GH is set up inside my very small apartment.

Thanks man:rockon:


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Puduwoke] * 1
    #26117688 - 07/19/19 10:43 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Hey dude!  Oysters should definitely be grown outside the living space...they drop massive amounts of spores.  The others don’t tend to drop near as much but I wouldn’t want to be breathing spores regardless.  If growing inside, definitely plumb an exhaust fan to move spores out of the fruiting chamber which will also be beneficial for the fungi (FAE) as well as helping reduce mold which loves stagnant air.  This is oyster spore build up on my exhaust fan after a handful of grows/month or so.



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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26117769 - 07/19/19 11:31 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

shameless cross post

Some red reishi bags that are about 1 year old now, growing through the bag top and filter patch, sporulating everywhere.


A few are even growing through the shelving...


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26117994 - 07/19/19 01:38 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey dude!  Oysters should definitely be grown outside the living space...they drop massive amounts of spores.  The others don’t tend to drop near as much but I wouldn’t want to be breathing spores regardless.  If growing inside, definitely plumb an exhaust fan to move spores out of the fruiting chamber which will also be beneficial for the fungi (FAE) as well as helping reduce mold which loves stagnant air.  This is oyster spore build up on my exhaust fan after a handful of grows/month or so.






Hmm... I hear what you are saying. Oyster are the biggest problem.
I do not grow crazy amount of mushrooms but I still do not want me or my gf to be breathing in spores. I have a fan attached to my GH blowing air OUT of the GH with a filter. Hopefully catching most of the spores.

Hmm I hope I can find a way to solve this.. When moving to a bigger place Its no problem tho.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #26117999 - 07/19/19 01:41 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Wow fish crazy.

And they've been fruiting for a YEAR!? I know they take their sweet time, but...

:whatwhatwhat:

I've got a ways to go :lol:


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    #26118024 - 07/19/19 01:49 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Wow fish crazy.

And they've been fruiting for a YEAR!? I know they take their sweet time, but...

:whatwhatwhat:

I've got a ways to go :lol:






Lol they are ready sooner, I have a 6-8 week old bag that has nice antlers (still inside)

They are resilient, I figured it would have dried out with that little sub but they are dumping spores all over- I should try and harvest this weekend since I’m spawning more bags...

Are those fruiting from the bottle? I wonder if they will antler at all or just conk... keep us posted!


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #26118034 - 07/19/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Are those fruiting from the bottle? I wonder if they will antler at all or just conk... keep us posted!




Yes, from the bottle. If you look close at the bottom bottles you can see the 1/2" holes I melted. Works great for lions mane.

They also protect the mycelium from airborn contams and drying out.

Yeah, I hope I get conks. The are looking chubby, I'll definitely keep everyone posted! I'm excited.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Spindlymass]
    #26118056 - 07/19/19 02:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Those are cool, spindly!


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