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Invisiblemabus
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You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This
    #2441256 - 03/16/04 11:25 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

"The Governor's RI homeland security bill was withdrawn a couple of days ago, but he intends to do some "tweaking" of it and re-introduce the bill at a later date. "

still, the fact they would try to pass it is amazing.


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Rhode Island's War on Anarchism
You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This
By DAVID GRENIER
http://www.counterpunch.org/grenier02202004.html
You could get ten years in prison just for reading this.

I have on my desk right now a copy of the new Rhode Island"homeland security" bil proposed by Governor Carcieri. It's an 18 page document, and right on the first page, before talking about weapons of mass destruction or poisoning the water system or anything else that a rational person might consider "terrorism", it says "any person who shall teach or advocate anarchy" will go to prison for ten years.
Let me make this clear. I am an anarchist. I write an anarchist blog. Don't be fooled by the pop-culture references and the fact that I maybe don't fit whatever rock-throwing stereotype is the current popular view of anarchism. I am facing ten years in prison for writing if this bill passes, because I am not going to stop being an anarchist just because some dumbass politician wants to tell me what I'm allowed to believe.

In addition, my wife will go to prison for ten years because she runs an anarchist book club that reads the likes of Alexander Skirda's Facing the Enemy: a History of Anarchism from Proudhon to May 68 and Alexander Berkman's Now and After: the ABC of Communist Anarchism.

Moreover, anyone who flies any flag other than the U.S. flag will also go to prison for ten years. Technically, this headline is inaccurate, though.

For reading this website there's not a specific penalty. You'd only go to jail for reading the Rhode Island Anarchists site. Since that would be "associating" with an "organization [that] teach[es] and advocate[es] disbelief in or opposition to organized government." Welcome to the land of the free.

Of course, we're not just going to roll over and let the government fuck us. We're going to fight this the right way, the anarchist way. We're not going to beg politicians to make the right decision. We're not going to be content with yet another bullhorn-and-chanting rally. At this point, we're the ones on the front lines, and we're going to do things our way.

They want to make it illegal to teach anarchy? We'll hold a teach-in and get 2,000 people to show up.

We'll call every union who's picket line we've walked (HERE, 1199, UNAP, Steelworkers, and SEIU I'm looking in your direction), we'll call the Narragansetts who we stood in solidarity with over the smoke-shop showdown, we'll call every anti-war activist who's protests we've attended, every Democrat and Green I met as the coordinator for the Kucinich campaign, everyone we stood side by side with on the Living Wage and Rising Sun Mills campaigns. We'll not only remind them that we've stood with them in their struggles, but that while we are on the front line of this fight for freedom, if we are allowed to fall, they'll have their freedoms picked off one by one. We'll get them all to show up, we'll give lectures on the theories, history, and current practice of anarchy and we'll force the State to either give out 2,000 ten year sentences (which it can't afford) or back the fuck down.

That's how you fight with direct action. That's how the IWW won similar "free speech fights" 100 years ago when government had similar laws against dissent. Anything less is just begging for your freedom, which is yours by right. And I'm through begging.

David Grenier is an anarchist from Providence, Rhode Island. His website is http://www.davidgrenier.com/






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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: mabus]
    #2441270 - 03/16/04 11:29 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Even if this does pass, it'll never hold up in court.


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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: silversoul7]
    #2441311 - 03/16/04 11:43 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

can you imagine the governor sitting down and talking to his staff as they wrote that bill, and thinking that crap up. Why 10 years? lol


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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: mabus]
    #2442904 - 03/17/04 12:44 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

why anarchists?


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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: afoaf]
    #2443032 - 03/17/04 01:27 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

i think its because the anarchists in ri have been causing "problems" for the governor. The anarchists have stood by other groups in ri that have protested, etc. Looks like a blatant misuse of the 911 attacks to clean up his state of unwanted groups.

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We'll call every union who's picket line we've walked (HERE, 1199, UNAP, Steelworkers, and SEIU I'm looking in your direction), we'll call the Narragansetts who we stood in solidarity with over the smoke-shop showdown, we'll call every anti-war activist who's protests we've attended, every Democrat and Green I met as the coordinator for the Kucinich campaign, everyone we stood side by side with on the Living Wage and Rising Sun Mills campaigns.




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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: afoaf]
    #2443080 - 03/17/04 01:39 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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afoaf said:
why anarchists?



Like the wolf, predatory governments first pick out the weak hanging out on the edges of the herd. The actions against these are little noticed and if they are, little protest is raised since the government is picking on fringe elements. After all, these liberties being targeted are those that the masses choose not to exercise or do not exercise in an unpopular manner...

That is how it starts. Gradually, the state widens it's activities against other more populous fringe groups, all the while the masses are gradually acclimated to the trampling of their liberties and begin to accept it as normal . After most or all of the fringe elements have been exorcised from the body politic, these actions will have been tolerated for so long that they are accepted as normal and the strength of the state in these areas is well established. The average person then becomes subject to the predations of the more mature police state.


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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: mabus]
    #2443764 - 03/17/04 04:26 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

Wow, this is unbelievably fascist.





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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: afoaf]
    #2443799 - 03/17/04 04:37 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

Well, this isn't the first time the government has gone after Anarchists. The U.S Sedition Act of 16 May, 1918, was written with Anarchists in mind, and is even more Fascist. Be that as it may, although I don't agree with the Anarchist viewpoint, I do support their right to speak out, gather and exist.


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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: mabus]
    #2443820 - 03/17/04 04:42 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

I wouldn't worry about it too much. With the exception of the ignorant facists this will never be supported. If it were to become reality the protests would dwarf the war protests of last year.


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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2445231 - 03/17/04 11:50 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

Maybe that is the goal, to set off a series of violent protests to "prove" that we need laws such as this.


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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2445523 - 03/18/04 12:51 AM (13 years, 8 days ago)

Better change your password, dude. Looks like Anna has cracked it.

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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: Phred]
    #2445950 - 03/18/04 03:31 AM (13 years, 8 days ago)

Well WTF are they thinking then?


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Re: You Could Get 10 Years in Prison Just for Reading This [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2446213 - 03/18/04 07:16 AM (13 years, 8 days ago)

I wouldn't say they would be violent protests (with the exception of the professional protesters).


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