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I think that's a good theory, and have thought about half of it myself as well, without the knowing of such a theory existing.
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Energy levels have been at a really low point for months now, no significant improvement yet, tried Maca (which used to work pretty good, but now does very close to jack shit), royal jelly (some improvement noticeable, but not the jelly is not worth the cash with these small improvements), walking in the woods(it works as long as I'm in the woods, the moment I'm done, I'm DONE. Getting home and crawling into bed done.
I'm sick of this shit.
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If I don't get lyme disease or don't already have it, Its a damn miracle. I live in the Sierra Nevada foothills and there are deer ticks EVERYWJERE. A couple months back I found 3 ticks on me in 3 days. Never had the rash though so I'm probably fine
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A lot of foresters have anti-bodies, but never had any symptoms. Walking in the woods daily is a really good for your immune system, so that's not really a surprise to me...
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LizardWizard said: Energy levels have been at a really low point for months now, no significant improvement yet, tried Maca (which used to work pretty good, but now does very close to jack shit), royal jelly (some improvement noticeable, but not the jelly is not worth the cash with these small improvements), walking in the woods(it works as long as I'm in the woods, the moment I'm done, I'm DONE. Getting home and crawling into bed done.
I'm sick of this shit.
Man I know the feel. Sorry it's been rough for ya. Not any advice I can give you you probably already don't know about so just know I'm hoping and rooting for ya  I really do hope you start feeling better soon. Very different kind of tired rather than normal exhausted tired or fat out of shape tired. It's miserable if you overdo it too.
Be spending as much time as you can outdoors though. If nothing else it will help motivate you and help you feel a little more free and light hearted.
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LizardWizard said: A lot of foresters have anti-bodies, but never had any symptoms. Walking in the woods daily is a really good for your immune system, so that's not really a surprise to me...
Keeping moving is key I think, but that is just good for life in general.
I'm sorry Adam but 3 ticks in three days is silly :P I have found over 10 on my legs from walking 100 feet through some brush at the right time of year, I could pick off 50 in a day easily. Awareness is key as well, and just taking ticks seriously. I mean I live in an area where >50% of ticks test positive for lyme spirochetes, whatever that means.
I find that Spring and Fall are the worst times, especially when you're walking through lush brush, so look out mushroom hunters. If you give up and don't go out during these beautiful times you've already lost though :P just be mindful and check thoroughly.
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I agree. Disease makes shit impossibly difficult but you still gotta get out and enjoy life. Otherwise you're letting illness become your life. I've seen people give up in similar situations and only when they approach death do they realize they should have tried harder, they should have pushed more, they should have gotten up and said fuck you this is my life and went and lived it.
Depression alone claimed much of my life. Probably a big reason I'm unwell now. But I know that I still have time left and still alot I can make of it.
Rest so that you can get up tomorrow. Do not rest through tomorrow because things get hard. Relax so you can sit back and enjoy life. Do not lay back and sleep because it's too difficult to try anymore. Take care of yourself so that you can be happy. Don't enable yourself because it's easier to make you happy for now.
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Thank you Cookiecrumbs, though I'm not letting it get that far (not going out or letting the disease become my life). I have in the past but nowadays I live with all the energy I have, however little that is some days.
Today is a better day, luckily. I've been sweating like a pig last night, waking up every few hours, and this morning I woke up feeling energetic as fuck. Literally actually, instead of just getting up, had sex with the GF this morning.
It's indeed a very different kind of tired, and usually, it's the worst in the morning, and gets better during the day. It also gets worse the hotter it gets. There's also an oxygen component I believe. I've been having more air hunger and more
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I feel you all on the fatigue stuff. Though i've had it way before Lyme, it's definitely more complicated now. Searching for a job right now and just like "How am i supposed to even life?" Some days i can build houses, some days a little gardening throws my heartbeat into chaos, some days i just can't connect well with external tasks. I'm normally okay because I sit around my house a lot and exert myself only by feel of what I can handle. I don't think i've had 8 consecutive hours of responsibility since high school though. No idea how that's going to go. All day every day. That would wear my healthy self thin... But now? God damn. And i'm not even that bad compared to most. My heart aches for people who are lucky to have the energy for sex. Like shit i must have got the good strain of this bug.
These days my issue is with dark urine. Hope to god it's just dehydration. But you know the intrusive thoughts about kidney and liver failure are never productive... It's always one thing or another. And there's never a doctor that can get you in quick enough or even figure out what's wrong. 30 more days before I can get any results on my organ function
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You don't happen to be in Ohio or Indiana by any chance? I know of a good naturalist doctor who could maybe check you out. He does ask for you to attend a seminar before going into treatment with him, because the way he works is so different a lot of ppl decide it's not for them. But his studies correlate largely with what my doctor's studies are, and I know a woman with Lyme who personally knows him. If you want I could forward you his name/website?
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Same here, I feel you...
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And i'm not even that bad compared to most. My heart aches for people who are lucky to have the energy for sex. Like shit i must have got the good strain of this bug.
Half the time I feel like this as well. I'm only having sex about 3 times a month right now. Not for a lack of opportunity. But the other half of the time (a bit more nowadays actually) I can seriously relate to the stories on the bad side of the spectrum. Of course, you can go REALLY bad with Lyme, but it seems as if I've treated myself successfully to the point where I am dodging the worst symptoms, like epileptic seizures (for some all day long, I only had 3 in the whole run, for now).
Lately, my symptoms are primarily fatigue, air hunger (anemia, in rare instances it has gotten to the point where I look very pale), bouts of rage, and what seem to be the beginnings of early onset Parkinson's. My eye had been twitchy for quite some time already, but my thumbs are new. A good week back, my yoghurt jumped off my spoon, so I ended up eating my yoghurt with the cup against my chin to avoid spilling. And a lot of times when tiredness hits (like right now), I have to zoom in on the pages here to keep the reading bearable. If it gets worse, I have to stop reading as nothing gets through anymore and I start reading the same sentence over and over again. That's when it's time for a nap. I try to keep those naps to a minimum though, as I've watched my father go from a healthy working man to a painfully sauntering old guy over the course of a few years, and he always needed a nap mid-day.
The most painful part of all this is knowing what it's like to see your father deteriorate, and not being able to spare my son the same. As I'm typing this my eyes actually fill up because of it.
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Oh man, yeah it's always something new isn't it? I just got over a bout of blepharitis and ear infection. I never used to get that sort of thing. That all sounds pretty miserable. My primary issues are chest pains, joint/muscle pains, and this stinging firey nerve pain. And then there's those ones you just can't describe. Like you feel so wrong but there's no words for it. It doesn't reside in any location in your body. It's not a pain. Ugh. Fortunately I don't have any cognitive issues. I can read til my eyes bleed. My attention span has never been wonderful but nothing has really changed. So that's been a blessing. It's mostly pain and just feeling fragile as fuck on my end.
And no I'm way down south where it "doesn't exist" I've been to so many docs, flew out of state even... I just can't even do it anymore. I just stick with Buhners protocol. Though I will have to go back this one time and maybe occasionally after just to keep up on my basic liver/kidney health. But thanks though Much appreciated
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Judging by your symptoms, you would benefit greatly from taking Cordyceps about 3 times a day. I'd buy extract pills and a culture, and look up how they are grown. They can be grown in flasks.
They're not my mushroom though. Reishi and Hericium are more suited for me.
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LizardWizard said: Judging by your symptoms, you would benefit greatly from taking Cordyceps about 3 times a day. I'd buy extract pills and a culture, and look up how they are grown. They can be grown in flasks.
They're not my mushroom though. Reishi and Hericium are more suited for me.
I'm curious as to the reasoning for that suggestion? I've taken them in the past but maybe not consistently enough to notice the benefit. Right now knotweed and cat's claw is about all i can tolerate. Inching up ever so slightly to avoid the die off from hell. After that will be cryptolepis and maybe some more support stuff following
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Ziran said: I've had ticks on me recently from foraging in the woods. You'll know if you get it.
Good thing is that if you get rid of them within about twenty-four hours then you're pretty much in the clear. Ticks fucking suck though.
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Yeah, pretty much, but not pretty enough, my tick was so damn small it simply couldn't have been on very long, wanted to take it off, failed the first time, BINGO!
The 24 hour crap is true, but ppl take it as a universal truth, while it's more of a "usually it goes like". That's like usually, you get a bullseye rash. Yet, 50% of ppl with LD never noticed any rash at all.
Both of your responses are pretty close to giving bad advice. If we were on a lyme forum instead of a shroom forum, you'd have at least 5 people crying rape right now.
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That is some serious misconceptions.
You don't necessarily know if you get it. A large percentage of infection happens without the rash. Symptoms are vague and fluctuate and can seemingly go away at times. You are generally good, they don't have time to transmit the disease, if you pick it off within hours but I've only ever heard "within hours" not "within 24 hours." and even that isn't a hard fact.
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LizardWizard said: Yeah, pretty much, but not pretty enough, my tick was so damn small it simply couldn't have been on very long, wanted to take it off, failed the first time, BINGO!
The 24 hour crap is true, but ppl take it as a universal truth, while it's more of a "usually it goes like". That's like usually, you get a bullseye rash. Yet, 50% of ppl with LD never noticed any rash at all.
Both of your responses are pretty close to giving bad advice. If we were on a lyme forum instead of a shroom forum, you'd have at least 5 people crying rape right now.
Ah shit... Maybe this is a better response
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It's often incredibly hard to diagnose Lyme. It's why I haven't been able to rule it out for my own health problems despite being tested twice. The test itself is unreliable. There simply isn't any 100% tried and true method to detect or prevent it.
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I don't even remember getting bitten at all. All i know is i was camping a month before i ended up in the ER and my symptoms developed into those typical of late stage Lyme. For all I know it's not even Lyme. But it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... and according to the lab tests it has some webbed feet and a bill... so... maybe a goose? Who really cares. Still fowl. Reacts to antibiotics, has the symptoms characteristic of Lyme, and is stubborn as shit. And no tick bite to be seen
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CookieCrumbs said: if you pick it off within hours but I've only ever heard "within hours" not "within 24 hours." and even that isn't a hard fact.
I've only heard that you're probably fine (assuming that the tick even carried lyme disease) if you get it off within about twenty-four hours, from a guy whose entire area of expertise was infectious diseases and was in the process of finishing up his research on tick-borne illnesses as part of a larger project that looked at how climate change was affecting disease transmission.
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LizardWizard said: Judging by your symptoms, you would benefit greatly from taking Cordyceps about 3 times a day. I'd buy extract pills and a culture, and look up how they are grown. They can be grown in flasks.
They're not my mushroom though. Reishi and Hericium are more suited for me.
I'm curious as to the reasoning for that suggestion? I've taken them in the past but maybe not consistently enough to notice the benefit. Right now knotweed and cat's claw is about all i can tolerate. Inching up ever so slightly to avoid the die off from hell. After that will be cryptolepis and maybe some more support stuff following
Well, start out with 1 a day, then after a good week of taking one a day, take one extra, at a seperate moment, and then go to three after a good week.
The reason? You have chest pains, dark urine, your worried about kidney and liver failure or damage, low energy levels, low libido, some depression I presume, some troubles with the lungs or hart, and it's also a natural pain killer. Other indications are (you have some of these, I'm sure): high bloodsugar, high blood pressure, night sweats, oxidative stress (everyone who is sick has too much of this and your kidneys suffer from this pretty hard), tinnitus, intolerance to cold, dizziness, memory issues, blood clotting issues, high cholesterol, impotence, liver cirrosis and fibrosis, hep a b and c, copd (lung disease), asthma, shortness of breath, coughing, excessive slime formation, flu, colds, chronic bronchitis, hormonal disruptions (holds connection to the kidneys, adrenals and endocrine system), and of course, cancer.
Furthermore, it is larvicidal, anti-mycotic, anti-viral and anti-bacterial.
It is also an MAO-I, so dose lower when you trip, or be prepared for a real good one. That's actually the basis of it's activity as an anti-depressant. (the MAO inhibition, not the magic mushrooms, though they are considered anti-depressing as well by a lot of ppl, and more and more research)
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