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BlueMillionMiles
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george castanza said: Good thing you're not me, if I were you that's what I would tell him, but I'm not so I'm not going to tell you what you should tell him I'll tell him what I told him dig?
Gold. Pure gold. Man, I want to burn one with George!!
I appreciate the concern about the contams and my noob-ishness, guys! I'm gonna just sound arrogant just for a second (sorry) and say that I heard I'm not the dullest knife in the drawer, so I'm optimistic about a chance of success when I eventually get around to the dirtier substrates. I kinda get off on trying new things, especially if people say it can't (or shouldn't) be done. *cough (spore syringes) cough. Haha. Besides, I learn best when I screw something up. It's all good-- I won't get discouraged-- promise. If anything, I'll just get smarter and more determined if I fuck it up. And if I try it, and I think it sucks, I won't be scared to say so. It's all good
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c10h12n2o
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fuck a spore syringe in the neck.
agar, agar, and agar
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BlueMillionMiles
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: c10h12n2o] 2
#24384363 - 06/07/17 05:04 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Really? Gee thanks. Did you just see the words "spore syringe" and type the first thing that popped in your head? Thanks for the original and enlightening knowledge. That's the first I've heard of this "agar" of which you speak. You're really not the 9 millionth fucking poster I've seen try to end a conversation by proclaiming how irrelevant it is because...agar. Seriously, dude? It's my first fucking grow. Step off with your nazi-like "help." I'll fucking get there, and when I do, I'll be able to make one fucking beautiful spore syringe...if I fucking want to.
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tell it like it is +5
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c10h12n2o
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ooo cut me, i bleed
ill bite no, the first thing that popped in my head (if you actually want to know) was "look at this idiot: in 2017 talking about making a spore syringe on their first grow and not even curious about why that might be a bad idea or what experienced growers recommend for first-timers LOL.... " but rather than telling you that, i told you the 1 word that is the solution to all your problems (whether you care to hear it or not): AGAR
i dont think you know what the word "nazi" means if you think someone giving you good advice (whether you recognize it or not) makes them a nazi... people beat that "nazi" word to death these days.... yeah, im literally hitler 
nazis didnt kill anyone or anything, they went around giving people great advice about how to grow mushrooms. words have meanings you moron, and thats not what a nazi is 
this is the same attitude we see on here all the time from millennials who act like they are the first person to ever try to grow mushrooms, dont read even the basics, and then do dumb shit and when you try to help them get back on track they consider anything that isnt "OMG YOU ARE THE SMARTEST, COOLEST PERSON IN THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS 100% CORRECT!!!" to be abusive 
you might not care to know it, but even the newbies start with agar these days, it is simple (easier than making a proper spore syringe), because there are so many great guides full of information and a community full of us here to spoon feed anyone who wants to learn. but you CLEARLY havent done your homework, and you are doing things that people did in the 80s before there was a Shroomery full of guides to how to do things properly, before it became common knowledge that there are better ways to do things. if you dont care to hear our advice, and arent interested in doing things the right way, why are you here? since your ego is more of a priority than learning to grow mushrooms, i guess you expected us to be impressed AF and tell you how awesome you are?
maybe ask for advice next time, it will get you much further than this whole "if it turns out good, great -- if not fuck it, and fuck anyone who tells me so" attitude (criticizing the advice people give you lol), which is pretty much a guaranteed way to make an ass out of yourself
we arent your parents, we arent here to lie to you about your dumb ideas to make you feel good about yourself. we are here to help people learn to cultivate mushrooms, and most of us couldnt care less about how insecure it makes you feel when people give you advice you dont like: take it or leave it. grow mushrooms or dont, no one cares
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Myco Mako
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24385729 - 06/07/17 04:02 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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BlueMillionMiles said:
Really? Gee thanks. Did you just see the words "spore syringe" and type the first thing that popped in your head? Thanks for the original and enlightening knowledge. That's the first I've heard of this "agar" of which you speak. You're really not the 9 millionth fucking poster I've seen try to end a conversation by proclaiming how irrelevant it is because...agar. Seriously, dude? It's my first fucking grow. Step off with your nazi-like "help." I'll fucking get there, and when I do, I'll be able to make one fucking beautiful spore syringe...if I fucking want to.
Lover not a fighter, I think not... I'd say that response was 'uncalled for'....
Edited by Myco Mako (06/07/17 04:30 PM)
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c10h12n2o
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: Myco Mako] 1
#24385751 - 06/07/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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lol not here to love, fight, or discuss anyones feelings... 100% here to learn and discuss mush cult. but dont try to "tell someone off" if you cant handle the response, not everyone sucks at arguing or wants to discuss your fragile feelings, they might get hurt
however, i am always more than happy to discuss mush cult principles. more than happy to answer any questions you have. more than happy to explain anything you are missing, including why its a bad idea to try to make a spore syringe for your first grow (again, its more difficult, less practical, and less successful than agar). more than happy to walk you through every part of the process. more than happy to help you debug it when things go wrong.
its hilarious to me that people have the gall to call someone a "nazi" and then have the audacity to cry foul when their target explains why that isnt true
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BlueMillionMiles
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24385821 - 06/07/17 04:39 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Boy. You are FULL of dumb ass assumptions, aren't you? Thanks for the extra long post trying to make it look like you know me and my intentions. I laugh at your ridiculousness.
I've done my fucking homework. I know why it's frowned upon by serious growers, and I also know there are plenty of assholes like you who like to assume they know what other people are thinking...like why I chose to try a spore syringe. You really think I came on here and thought a spore syringe was my best option? How about you take your assumptions and stick them where the sun don't shine? Look dude, you don't know me, and I can tell from your response that you've put me in some group of naive "millennials" who like to fuck up first and ask questions later. I will not fully explain my reasons for choosing to do spore syringes because you don't deserve an explanation...because so far you're kind of a douche bag. I will say, I had reasons. One option was free and at my disposal in the middle of the night, whereas one wasn't. And if despite the risk of contams, my syringes come out well, well that just means I have pretty damn good sterile-technique, a decent SAB, and maybe a little bit of skill I can take into my agar, doesn't it? You really are an idiot, and the only person whose insecure here is you.
PS: go spoon feed someone who wants it. I'm here to learn, buh bye.
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jkz
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the only reason to make a syringe these days is if your making a video on how people used to grow mushrooms lol
Prints store longer as a print as well, rather then a syringe.
I'm a complete noob when it comes to agar and grain tbh, and agar is so fucking easy it's kinda sad I was afraid of it 4 years ago.
If you wanna make syringes OP, then do you man. But don't come here complaining when it goes south on you. Spores are naturally dirty and full of contaminates. If you don't wanna believe that then have fun with you're syringes.
There's a reason c10 is telling you to do agar. Not cuz he's a nazi, cuz he has successful grows under his belt and this is your first one and you came her looking for knowledge. Something he's trying to share. But whatever man.
Good luck.

You're here to be an asshole dude.
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BlueMillionMiles
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24385837 - 06/07/17 04:43 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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c10h12n2o said:
its hilarious to me that people have the gall to call someone a "nazi" and then have the audacity to cry foul when their target explains why that isnt true 
What are you talking about? You trippin, bro?
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BlueMillionMiles
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: jkz]
#24385853 - 06/07/17 04:49 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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jkz said: But don't come here complaining when it goes south on you. Spores are naturally dirty and full of contaminates.
How about the second you see me "complaining" about contaminants, you post this crap as a response. Or is asking if it looks like a contam considered complaining? I knew it was a risk. And I considered it a challenge. I'm not "afraid" of agar, like you seem to be assuming I am. It's just that right now, my hands are pretty full with 10 healthy jars I'm birthing...from my dirty ass spore syringes. Seriously, stop.
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jkz
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jkz said: But don't come here complaining when it goes south on you. Spores are naturally dirty and full of contaminates.
How about the second you see me "complaining" about contaminants, you post this crap as a response. Or is asking if it looks like a contam considered complaining? I knew it was a risk. And I considered it a challenge. I'm not "afraid" of agar, like you seem to be assuming I am. It's just that right now, my hands are pretty full with 10 healthy jars I'm birthing...from my dirty ass spore syringes. Seriously, stop.
I'll be the first one in line friend. I never said 'you' were afraid, it's an intimidating thing, and since you're too proud to tell us your reason for using a syringe and going spore to grain then there's not much anyone can do to help you.
You think they're clean now, until you spawn them and end up with tubs of mold. You may not as well, but chances are not in your favour. That's all c10 was trying to do. Help you put the odds in your favour but instead you act like a butt hurt 12 year of girl and start attacking.
It's the Internet, I don't need to stop. You posted here, you deal with the responses. Dont let your feelings get hurt cuz you didn't get the answer you wanted.
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Myco Mako
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: jkz] 1
#24385875 - 06/07/17 04:57 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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BlueMillionMiles said: It's just that right now, my hands are pretty full with 10 healthy jars I'm birthing...from my dirty ass spore syringes.
LOL - says the guy who posts here asking for advice on said same jars. Why you so mad at the world man? People are trying to help and you are throwing attitude like a fucking 12 year old. Let go of the ego - you'll learn more along the way...
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: jkz] 3
#24385878 - 06/07/17 04:57 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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BlueMillionMiles
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24385883 - 06/07/17 05:02 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: fuck a spore syringe in the neck.
agar, agar, and agar
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c10h12n2o said: lol not here to love, fight, or discuss anyones feelings... 100% here to learn and discuss mush cult. but dont try to "tell someone off" if you cant handle the response, not everyone sucks at arguing or wants to discuss your fragile feelings, they might get hurt
however, i am always more than happy to discuss mush cult principles. more than happy to answer any questions you have. more than happy to explain anything you are missing, including why its a bad idea to try to make a spore syringe for your first grow (again, its more difficult, less practical, and less successful than agar). more than happy to walk you through every part of the process. more than happy to help you debug it when things go wrong.
its hilarious to me that people have the gall to call someone a "nazi" and then have the audacity to cry foul when their target explains why that isnt true 
How about you lead with that "oh I'm just trying to be helpful" act next time? Cause it really seems like you just posted that first post because you were feeling smug, lazy and unhelpful.
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jkz
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Seems like he was being straight to the point?
Agar agar agar.
Sums it all up to me. You should have immediately looked at bods agar links, seen c10 EXTREMELY detailed agar guide, realized this dude isn't talking out of his ass, knows wtf he's talking about and followed directions.
Makes life real easy. How do I know? This.

4 days post innoc with MS agar. Soooo yeah.
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BlueMillionMiles
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Re: Homemade spore syringes [Re: jkz]
#24385922 - 06/07/17 05:20 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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*sigh for the last time, I understand agar is the shit. I greatly look forward to using it. I'm not, by ANY MEANS saying that a spore syringe can even compare to the success rates of agar. Do you people just assume that if someone does a syringe, they're disregarding the ABUNDANT evidence that agar is better?? I FUCKING KNOW IT IS. But I didn't know that I could get fucking harrassed on here for even attempting it. It really seems like you people are just trolling syringe topics looking for a fight. Please stop assuming shit. You're not helping to convince me of anything, because I ALREADY AGREE WITH YOU. I just didn't appreciate dude's lazy ass "fuck a spore syringe in the neck" post. Thanks for hijacking my thread and making shit up. Honestly, this is ridiculous.
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jkz
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No ones making anything up. We're trying to guide you in the right direction. No ones trying to fight with you or harass you dude.
This site is about the proper cultivation of food/drugs. It's not something to take lightly and I think that's where wires were crossed.
Don't get me wrong either, I don't wanna see you fail. I just want you (and noobs in the future who will read this post) to understand the failures that come with spore syringes.
No one wants to fight and argue man. We're all here for the same reasons.
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c10h12n2o
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its funny as fuck that you are going to dictate to me EXACTLY HOW i should help you, like i am your unpaid research assistant, and i get fired if you start feeling insecure i will lead with whatever the hell i want, definitely not gonna be taking rhetoric lessons from the moron calling someone a "nazi" for disagreeing with them ive never pretended to win any ass kissing contests. its funny as shit to hear someone criticize the people helping them out for not kissing their ass enough, as if they are doing us a favor by allowing us to give them advice 
you can make whatever judgement about me, call em whatever names you want (though its pretty ironic considering your whole "you dont know me" bit), but it doesnt change the fact that what i said was the most helpful thing anyone could have said to you, and that single word has helped thousands of newbies solve every problem in their cult life, basically anyone who wanted to be helped. cant help it if you are so dumb that you get offended by good advice, and so arrogant and judgmental that you construe cultivation advice as something personal lol
you are the master, dr phil: educate us, show us how its done 
of course i "dont know you", i have no desire to know you and never claimed to, i dont associate with people like you (intellectual midgets who call people "nazis" every time they disagree with someone). you are naive AF to think anyone on a forum about mushroom cultivation has ANY interest in you personally, your feelings, "knowing you," or how it makes you feel when you hear advice you dont like.
its obvious from your attitude that you will forever be a perma-newb, so im not writing to help you, im posting to help the next newbie who has 2 brain cells to rub together who has this idea, searches for similar threads, finds this, does agar instead, and never lacks for mushrooms again. THATS who we are trying to help, the people who actually want to learn
no one is assuming anything, none of us care what you do enough to make assumptions about what you are and arent afraid of.... i mean fuckin ay dude, how much patience do you expect other grownups to have for you when you #1 respond to advice by calling someone a "nazi" #2 claim to have done your homework but "have never even heard of agar" #3 have no interest in learning WHY what you are doing is a bad idea .... its like you expected us to be so blown away by your awesome idea that everyone would just kiss your ass from now till doomsday lol... grow the fuck up dude, we are adults here, here to discus and learn about mush cult, no one cares about you, your feelings, how smart you think you are, etc., and i think it is hilarious that you would expect anyone to 
believe it or not, most of us are here to learn, discuss, and help others do the same. if you dont like that, are allergic to critical thinking, or for whatever reason cant get over the fact that people would fire back at your insults, perhaps you should find another site where it will be easier to feel smart and you wont be bothered by mushroom cultivation advice. im sure the people over at vice or facebook would be REALLY impressed, and you wont have to worry about being exposed to critical thinking 
lots of us are more than happy to explain to you WHY its a bad idea to try to make spore syringes on your first grow, but you dont seem to have any interest in hearing that (just like we dont have any interest in hearing you whine)
if you want to try to argue, please, make an argument: are you suggesting that it is a good idea for a first time grower to make a spore syringe? or are you just reacting to something you didnt want to hear? since you know so much more than all these newbies starting with agar, please, explain. hopefully you make a stronger case for that than you did for accusing me of being a national socialist 
you dont have to appreciate my "lazy" comments you hard-working brilliant newbie you, you dont have to take my advice. but when you start calling people names and talking shit and trying to make everything personal when everyone else want to discuss mush cult, cant be surprised when people dont have much patience for it
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