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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2436016 - 03/15/04 07:37 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Here's a fun one for you all. Churches, temples, and mosques are exempt from property taxes. What the fuck is that. Since their basic excuse for existing is as modern shamans, and psychologists, psychotherapists and their ilk pay property tax on their offices, how is that NOT a state sponsored endorsement of religion. What free services do Atheists get (I will cop to Atheism being a religion for legal purposes)


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2436039 - 03/15/04 07:44 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

yeah. churches shouldn't get any special treatment.


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: ]
    #2436082 - 03/15/04 07:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Amen to that brother!


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2436586 - 03/15/04 09:51 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Education should not be free. The government has no business paying for it. At least not the feds.




They have no business charging for it if someone does it themselves without the aid of an institution. They have a responsability to accredit someone for the knowledge that they have no matter by what means it was achieved.


Requiring someone to take a class before they are allowed to recieve credit for knowledge they already have makes the higher education system a monopoly.


The way it is set up now, you must take a $400 - $800 class to recieve credit for the class. You don't have the option to just buy the book and teach yourself for $50.


There are a very few exceptions. (CLEP)


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2436622 - 03/15/04 09:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Let the states do it. It is not something the feds should be involved in.


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2436663 - 03/15/04 10:08 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I'd be alright with that.

Education is an investment that pays off. If your citizens are better educated, they're going to bring in more money to the state, and attract more businesses.


I don't think any taxes should be paid to the federal government. All taxes should be paid to the State, and the federal government would have to collect taxes from the state governments.




Or something like that. :yesnod:


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2436688 - 03/15/04 10:12 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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I'd be alright with that.



Good.


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Education is an investment that pays off. If your citizens are better educated, they're going to bring in more money to the state, and attract more businesses.



I agree.


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I don't think any taxes should be paid to the federal government. All taxes should be paid to the State, and the federal government would have to collect taxes from the state governments.



That doesn't sound any better to me.


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2436703 - 03/15/04 10:15 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

STFU! U R A NEOCON!


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2436715 - 03/15/04 10:17 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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STFU! U R A NEOCON!


:shocked:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2436735 - 03/15/04 10:21 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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That doesn't sound any better to me.




States shouldn't be recieving any funding from the feds. That way there's nothing to withold from them if they don't make laws that make the feds happy.


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2438015 - 03/16/04 05:10 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I still agree, but why should money flow from either to the other? There are more costs involved that way.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2438021 - 03/16/04 05:13 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

It may be another one of those ideas that look good on roling paper, but in reality don't smoke very good.


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2438023 - 03/16/04 05:15 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

It may be.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2438075 - 03/16/04 06:08 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes, I would think that the phrase "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." would make that clear



Think again.




I have, believe me. :frown:


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Re: john kerry is a twit..so why should i vote for him?? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2438082 - 03/16/04 06:14 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Well, keep trying. There's always hope.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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