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Invisiblebaltazar
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my jars are insane !!!
    #2437544 - 03/16/04 01:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know WTF is with my jars ... I inculated them a week ago and i was allready thinking about throwing then away ( becose i did something wrong when PC-ing , but it is ok after all ) ... It started to grow 3 days ago , well i noticed it 3 days ago ... It grows with explosive speed , incredible , now i have in few jars allready 20% colonization ...
I'm a bit worried becose the mycelium looks on few spots more like darker color , could it be contamination ? Can someone give me pics where i can see contamination that looks like mycelium ... I think it is mycelium , but just in case ...

And yes , i forgot to ask , when should i shake my jars for the last time ? At some 20-30% colonization or what ???

Thx for helping ...  :shiftyeyes:


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2437583 - 03/16/04 02:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

um, myc. is white. if theres any other color, its prolly contam, sorry. search through the contam forum and see if you can find something.

shaking at about 20% is pretty much the norm.

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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: Psilygirl]
    #2437650 - 03/16/04 02:22 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

hm ... can cobweb be formed in a jar ?

This is my first time growing so i can't say if it is mycelium or not ... it is not snow white , a bit darker white , but it looks like mycelium ... Ill search on contamination forum ...


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2437670 - 03/16/04 02:29 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yes it can be formed in jar. its a grayish color, and it moves quickly. its described as whispy compared to mycelium (which is white, more "ropey")


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: Psilygirl]
    #2437875 - 03/16/04 03:29 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Dont throw anything out man, it is probably health myc, take this jar away from the others, wait and see, and be sure before throw it out. just my 2 cents


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2437932 - 03/16/04 03:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ill try to make a pic of this , my digital camera is shity , but i hope ill get the "mycelium" ...

This shit is forming in every jar , i don't belive that i have contamination in every F... jar !!!! Shit ...


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2438057 - 03/16/04 05:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Well i made some pics , low quality but you can see the shit ...



This is the one of the jars , the mycelium doesn't much darker than normal ...



This here is the problem , it looks like wierd ... Not like in the first jar . I was thinking if that's how young mycelium looks like ??? I mean it is not very thick or anything , it just started to form , maybe that's the reason ... What do you think ? Did your jars look like that when it just started to grow ???



Here is the 3rd jar , looks like the mycelium in the first one ... I didn't make a photo of the last jar becose it looks the same like 1. and 3. jar ...

Well , tell me what do you think ? Ill just wait ... My theory is that it could be just very young mycelium , just started to grow ... This is my first grow and i never saw mycelium before so i realy can't know what it is ... !!! Help needed !!! ...

:shiftyeyes:  :shiftyeyes:  :shiftyeyes:  :shiftyeyes:  :shiftyeyes:


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2438176 - 03/16/04 07:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

sort of hard for me to tell from the photos but imo they look fine


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2438188 - 03/16/04 08:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

first grow? relax. Put them away and take them out in week. No point fretting over things, just wait a week and you'll know for sure at that growth rate.


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: mg420]
    #2438352 - 03/16/04 09:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

cob web will take over your jar in a matter of days. if that spot doesn't get real big, real fast then don't worry about it... It's kinda hard to tell from pic quality, but it looks like it's prolly myc.


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2438530 - 03/16/04 10:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you can also add a little h2o2 to it to kill the cob web if that is what it is

and if your jars are isane you should get them to the mental hospital right away  :tongue:


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: fee]
    #2438960 - 03/16/04 01:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ok ... Thanks , i hope i get at least one good jar . This is my first grow , do i'm a bit woried abaout everything ... How much mycelium should grow normaly ( in percentages ) in one day ? I notice that it grows with nice speed but only the outside of the jar ( the visible side ) is colonized , should i shake the jars anyway or let them stay like that till the weekend and than shake ?  :blush:


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2439144 - 03/16/04 02:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The second picture, the one that you've written on, is definitely contamed IMO, but it is hard to tell from the poor quality of the pic. I would smell them; if they smell at all unpleasant and non "mushroomy" then its probly a contam; smell is a reliable indicater IME.

good luck with the other jars bro

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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2439168 - 03/16/04 02:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, its kinda hard to tell, but the second pic looks like wet spot, and the first pic a little bit, too although it could be from clumping at the bottom. Did you shake the jars as soon as the pc neutralized pressure, this will help with the clumping of grain. do all your jars have that?

dont worry about losing all your jars, it's only your first time. you had mentioned you thought you screwed up in PCing, maybe thats what went wrong. though wet spot is usually from too much water. thats part of the learning experience, so dont get down from it, just try again!


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: Psilygirl]
    #2439251 - 03/16/04 02:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Don't throw anything out!!!. I had jars that i knocked up with liquid innoc. And at first i thought it was cobweb, because of the not brillant white and fast growth. I left them and low and behold holy shity bright white super fast mycelium growing.:D


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: wobbly]
    #2439468 - 03/16/04 03:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hehe ... Odiumjunkie , the problem is i don't know how should the shrooms smell ( mycelium ) ... What should it smell on if it is contaminated ???

I shaked the jars properly after PC-ing , there were no clumps and the seeds looked like nice moist ( not too wet ) , so i realy don't know what is the problem , maybe i didn't sterilize somethinh when working ... The problem is i got only one more print left and i realy wan't to make some more prints to have enough materials if something goes wrong . I was realy hoping i get in my first time some results , but obviosly i F... up !!

I won't give up , but i can say im a bit disapointed :frown: ... I hope , like i said , at least one jar to grow healthy mycelium :'(

Ill let them just stay and ill check them for few days ... Or should i just throw them away ?


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2439597 - 03/16/04 03:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

if you are unsure, then wait a few days. recognizing contams comes with experience. but it looks like wetspot to me, although again its hard to tell from the pics for certain. what ratio of grain/H2O did you use?


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: Psilygirl]
    #2439909 - 03/16/04 05:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i soaked grain for 6 hours in water and then i got all the water out of the seeds , the birdseed was just moist , not wet ...

Ill see how it is going to grow later ... Can someone make a pic of young mycelium, just started to grow , so i can see the diference , if there is any ... ???


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2439940 - 03/16/04 05:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hm ...

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23418

i found this excelent article about contamination and im preety sure that wet spot isn't the case here ... The jars are just moist , not wet and there are actualy no drips of water ... If my jars are contamined then i think it could be cobweb ... Well i realy don't know ... Ill make the smell test tommorow and then if it doensn't show any signs of contamination ill let them stay this week and then see what's going on ...

What do you think ?  :crying:


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Re: my jars are insane !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #2439981 - 03/16/04 05:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

hmm well again its hard to say from your pics, but if its cobweb it will take over very quickly.

so i guess just wait it out a couple days and see what happens.


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