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How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti?
#24359914 - 05/29/17 07:32 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ohio is harsh. They really want more people in prison than California, and ate second only to cali in population of prisoners.
1000 grams to 5000 grams, wet or dry, 5 years Busted growing with a evidence of hash making (dry sift, ice hash, co2, butane doesn't matter which) 8 years now total 13 years 2 or 3 years post release control, now total of 16 years Busted last month of post release? No problem, 2.5 years more prison. Now total of 18.5 years.
Sure you may not max out but for a tiny operation in a so called decrimilized and medical state. 18.5 years is a long stretch of the old sphincter.
Shrooms? Like hash, 8 years for manufacture. That is one petri dish. Bulk charges add up super quick for anything with any colony. Jars, substrate, fruits, it all goes on the scale. Can be life before you get done shitting yourself.
Cacti? Again 8 years for manufacture of mescaline if extracting plus weight charges. They way the whole entire .1% mescaline cactus collection as pure mescaline crystals. That one trip foot long section becomes a kilo of pure mescaline crystal before the eyes of the judge thats probably toking weed with his neighbor and snorting rails of their under age daughters ass.
So how legit is your state law?
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24361331 - 05/30/17 10:09 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Those aren't the kind of sentences you're realistically going to get in Ohio. I know plenty of people who have been busted there. Most don't do much jail time, if any at all. Those sentences happen to people who have a record.
You can also have 99 grams of pot, and it can be in separate containers as long as it's all different strains and it's not an arrestable offense. In my state, 14 grams is a felony.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24361439 - 05/30/17 10:54 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lot's of people have records
It's hard to grow under 100 grams wet. It's a crap shoot.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24365002 - 05/31/17 11:19 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: It's hard to grow under 100 grams wet. It's a crap shoot.
I was talking about possessing 100 grams, not growing. If you're growing then their decriminalization law doesn't apply to you.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24365289 - 05/31/17 01:21 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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100 grams means jail/probation. They usually want people to talk.
Under 100 grams is a ticket. They used to charge more for the bag/jar or container and the papers or pipe. They have changed that, as it used to be up to 6 months for the paraphernalia.
Growing under 100 grams is still a ticket. But the tools are 6 months maybe a year, I dunno as it's been awhile since I read that. But criminal tools are still not a felony.
It's real easy to grow over a 1000 grams as they weigh everything wet. I suppose a tiny PC case grow could stay under 100 grams.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24366297 - 05/31/17 08:29 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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My state will bend you over and fuck your future away if you get caught with any amount. I love weed so much Im staying clean till its legal then I can blaze up
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Chwyn] 1
#24367714 - 06/01/17 12:09 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Morel_guy has clearly never done any amount of time in Ohio, and is a fear monger type that just won't stop. I've seen this user consistently post about how harsh Ohio is. We are the most lenient state in the midwest, and we do have medical weed available if you meet the criteria. I don't know anyone going to prison anymore for any amounts of MJ. I had a friend get nabbed with 700 grams of oil coming to him in the mail, they raided his house and he got hit with 6 more f5 drug possessions. He fought the case as hard as he could without trial and ended up getting 3 years of intense supervision probation and 8 years of suspended prison time. Is it right? No. Is it harsh? Not by any means.
I was hit with 7 felonies in one case, and weapons were involved. I was given 6 months in a prison camp, and 3 years intense supervision probation. Right? Nah. Harsh? Not by any means. I was facing 15 years. The maximum penalties are reserved for violent repeat offenders, not non violent drug users, and even dealers. If you comply after your arrest, go to AA, go to counseling, get your shit together.....well then going to prison on a drug charge is really not going to happen.
Even heroin. It's considered a disease. Judges and prosecutors and probation/parole officers know the war on drugs have failed, and there's more money and less overcrowding in treatment.
Morel_guy is preaching like its 15 years ago.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: vandago]
#24367988 - 06/01/17 01:42 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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You sound like a professional loser.
7 felonies in one case? How stupid as fuck was that?
Who did you rat on to be on a computer?
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24368009 - 06/01/17 01:49 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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A computer? This happened 7 years ago dipshit. Rats don't go sit down and go through the court motions. Like I said, you've never done time, you don't know what you are talking about. I know A LOT of people who get hit for non violent drug charges and probation is what happens. You wanna belittle someone who knows what they are talking about, when you
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The war on drugs is a failure, and unless you get hit with heavy weight, and a gun, you aren't getting the max. I clearly said I did time, and the 6 months doesn't count the county time. You only have mandatorys on certain charges, and those charges can still be reduced with a thing called a lawyer and a plea bargain.
7 felonies in one case from a raid asshole. It's called a stash. Lots of people have one. Every individual drug is a felony unless it's small amounts of herb or hash. You have NO IDEA what you are rambling about. It's bothersome that you continue to flood the boards with your bullshit.
Go make some friends.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: vandago]
#24368018 - 06/01/17 01:51 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree the war on drugs is a big flop. There is far too much market and not enough powers or resources to fight it.
I know my county pretty well. They aren't going to just give 6 months for 7 felonies even at the lowest class of felony.
It's a bunch of Republican judges around here.
You must be in a bigger City. It's mostly small stuff around here. Once in awhile a big grow of shrooms or weed goes down. Some small timers from Detroit set up in a hotel room. The average user selling to make ends meet. Not a lot of record setters.
I know if I got popped with 7 drug felonies I'd be doing 3 years at least. Plus post release and time in the county waiting for trial.
The point of this thread was to show how max it can be.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#24368133 - 06/01/17 02:31 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: The point of this thread was to show how max it can be.
And the guys who have direct (vandago) and indirect (me) experience with the court systems in Ohio, specifically dealing with drugs, are telling you that the max almost never happens. It's not a real-world scenario unless you've seriously fucked up a bunch of times or you're violent along with your drug crime.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24368147 - 06/01/17 02:37 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you get that 'major drug offender' classification they could give the max.
It's just a max out theory.
I knew when I was younger I knew zero about the law. Laws are always changing, from time to time.
True that if they gave everybody max sentences there would have to be an even larger prison system.
They do love probation as well as it gives more time and more power to investigate people and networks. But they are usually not very smart and it's easier to blind them.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24368179 - 06/01/17 02:52 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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mandatory minimums?
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Chwyn]
#24368243 - 06/01/17 03:28 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ohio along with many other states and the feds that dictate the least possible incarceration time if convicted. You can always fight your initial charge and get a plea deal. Also, first time offenders ( like myself ) can usually get a different plea deal than a habitual offender of the same crimes. It's something that should be done away with, it screams incompetence of the judiciary system that I believe in, even as a felon. I think that all mandatory minimums should be eradicated as well as justice "being blind" ( its not in between the lines. We are all human. ) Judges are actually very wise humans.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: vandago]
#24368322 - 06/01/17 03:52 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not to mention asset seizure. They take it all. House, car, boat, every valuable.
Wish Ohio had a rec law like Maine.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24368764 - 06/01/17 06:32 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: If you get that 'major drug offender' classification they could give the max.
I've known people to get busted with LOTS of shit in Ohio. None of them were considered major drug offenders. Even the guy who got busted with 50 plants. Even the guy who got busted mailing 3 sheets of acid. Even the guy who got caught trafficking between several states. It's just not a real-world scenario if you're not violent and don't do the same shit over & over.
Also, looking over the thread I noticed I missed something. Growing under 100 grams (feasible or not) still isn't decriminalized. You're manufacturing at that point, which is a felony. The law only applies to possession.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24368804 - 06/01/17 06:49 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Growing can land you in some shit here, I've not known many growers who get caught to not do some time, but I've never known a grower who got the maximum 8 years for any amount of plants, even if a weapon was involved they didn't get the max for the combined charges. It's a hugely overcrowded jail/prison system here, and even if offenders do get long stints, if they aren't violent theyll likely get judicial when their mandatory minimums are over.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: vandago]
#24369137 - 06/01/17 08:51 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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we have mandatory minimums no exceptions. any marijuana related misdemeanor results in a loss of license for half a year.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: Chwyn] 1
#24369221 - 06/01/17 09:27 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ohio used to have that law, but if you get a good lawyer you can get a marijuana turned into a disorderly conduct if your shits together just based on the license issue. Disorderly is a worse charge on your record, but the same fine with no license suspension, so some courts take that deal. My first run in with the law that resulted in a court hearing other than when I was a minor was for an 8th of weed, and I paid a lawyer 500 to get the charges amended and keep my license.
Ohio recently changed that law thankfully, now it's not mandatory ( though it may be if it's IN your vehicle, but not at home ) though they still impose it a lot of times. I swear if there's one thing I took for granted it was a license. I still have a vehicle, and it's so tempting to drive it, but it would be incredibly stupid at this point, one more run in with the law and I'll be in a prison for a minimum of 6 months.
You know someones never been through the ringer when they say "Who did you snitch on to get that deal". I put myself in drug therapy, before I ever got my first felony. That speaks MILES to a judge. I have, up until now, always had a job. I have had a license, taken care the elderly, and been a borderline "asset to the community" ( my probation officers said to get that classification in their system I would need to be doing some sort of education to better myself ). Now I get labeled as "menace to society" Or "Threat to the community" depending on how the prosecutor words it, because I'm a repeat offender with no license no job and a dead beat. Not proud of being this way at the age I am, and having fucktards question my morals and willpower saying "snitch" is to the point I won't stand for that shit anymore. You snitch to avoid indictments, not get them. I sure would love to have my license and not be prepping for a cell again, but mama always said "don't do the crime if you can't do the time" and after the 7 felonys in one shot I was like, "Ok no more evidence stashes, no more mingling with newbs, no more psycho chicks, no more driving like a fucktard" then I started doing comedy and that literally threw all of my self made promises away because I put too much in front of me at once and didn't use a moderate sense of partying. I own up to all my shit, good and bad, there's no reason not too.
In ohio when you get multiple felonies at once, it's extremely rare to see anyone get run consecutively on them. Judges always run them concurrent unless you really did some horrible shit, or pissed off the judge immensely.
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Re: How bad is your state for weed/shrooms/cacti? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24370122 - 06/02/17 08:06 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is about the Ohio revised code, not jail house rumors of sentencing.
It's almost impossible to grow under 100 grams. Like I said, a PC case or something ridiculously small could achieve that low of a total yield.
A major drug offender has specific quantities written into law. 1 kilo of hash is considered a major drug offender. It's a steep sentence.
There is no plant count in Ohio. Federal court does the plant counts, Ohio does weight (wet, dry, they don't care or take the time to limit weight).
They love to charge stack here as well. They add up charges very quickly. Depending on your family and personal status and what sort of lawyer you can afford. Some charges can be dropped.
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