Quote:

---

CookieCrumbs said:

Like I said, just taking it to replace the benzo, which I only took when it felt like I needed it, a couple times a month at most. I've been taking one-two capsules a week at a time sometimes but I usually break for a few days/week(s). It doesn't feel quite strong enough to encourage the same kind of psychology dependence benzos do, but strong enough to work without making me sleepy. Which is hella nice.

Though the effects you've stated are interesting. I've suspected I might have thyroid issues for a while. I've had it tested several times and have been found to be just under (or over, idr the exact number but I have been only 1 count away) the line of hypothyroidism. Makes me wonder if that might be influencing my anxiety levels.

And I know I have excessive estrogen, and I know that makes anxiety worse, so boosting my miniscule levels of testosterone may counter that aspect too.

Aside from the unknown risks of long term use it's sounding better for me personally than benzos.

---

Quote:

---

Asante said:
The healthiest diet is a diet that contains all kinds of food you like, but in sufficiently modest quantity that you lose weight.

Eat normal, but slightly less than you need in a day to get by. A downtick of about 500 kcal should do it.

---

Quote:

---

oontribe said:
The hindu and buddhists monks seems to live more than average yet they are active and relatively healthy.

---

Quote:

---

Masked said:
Crystal...the science is in on this.  I could write You a damn near essay with a ridiculous amount of credible links.  You may not waste away but 50 grams is not ideal for any decently active human being.

---

Quote:

---

Shroomism said:
lol wut

Cooking most certainly destroys Vitamin C, that's no myth.  Vitamin C is very unstable and easily reduced and destroyed by heat, this is a pretty well known fact... I thought.
Link if you don't believe.. The longer you cook something, the less C it has.

---

Quote:

---

It was also noted the dietary guidelines published by the U.S. Department of Agriculture and Governmental programs, such as the school lunch program for children and Meals on Wheels for elderly persons, use the .36 grams/pound/day as well. Same for dietary guidelines published in the dietetic literature, the popular press, and various nutritional computer programs - a recommend protein intake of .36 grams/pound/day.

 

In example, a 190 pound person would need only 68.4 grams of protein per day.  That requirement could be met by ingesting a 4 ounce skinless chicken breast, half a cup of low-fat cottage cheese, and half a cup of crushed walnuts in one day.

 

Huh? That’s it for protein? Only .36 grams per pound each day? More on the study:

 

The RDA for protein was based on the results of all available studies that estimated the minimum protein intake required to avoid progressive loss of lean body mass as reflected by nitrogen balance.The Food and Nutrition Board admitted that relying solely on results from nitrogen balance studies to determine the RDA did have limitations, because this method does not measure any relevant physiological end point. Additionally, the existing data were gathered almost exclusively in college-aged men and a greater nitrogen intake was likely required to maintain nitrogen balance in elderly persons. Regardless of whether .36 grams/pound/day is an appropriate value for the RDA for elderly persons as well as for individuals 18- to 50-years-old, the point is the RDA is functionally defined as the amount of protein needed to avoid a deficiency that would lead to a progressive loss of lean body mass (as reflected by negative nitrogen balance).

 

The Acceptable Macronutrient Distribution Range (AMDR) of protein was noted to be between 10% and 35% of the daily energy intake (DRI). For example, the daily energy requirement of a sedentary 19-year-old reference man (5’-9” tall and 167 pounds) is estimated to be 17.2 total calories per pound (2,872 total calories/day). Ten percent of this caloric intake as protein would equal .43 grams/pound/day (72 grams) and 35% would equal 1.5 grams/pound/day (250 grams!). Thus, the RDA is below the lowest intake recommended by the AMDR when considered in the context of the overall dietary intake of macronutrients.

 

This discussion is relevant to nutrition policy only if there is evidence the optimal level of protein intake differs from the minimal requirement. The wide range recommended in the AMDR (10%-35% of energy intake) implies uncertainty regarding the exact optimal level of protein intake. This uncertainty reflects in part a relative lack of research addressing this issue. In addition, the wide range reflects, by deduction, uncertainty regarding the optimal levels of carbohydrate and fat in the diet.

 

The problem of widespread misinterpretation and improper application of the RDA arises from the fact the Food and Nutrition Board maintained the historically familiar term "recommended dietary allowance," but functionally defined it in terms misunderstood by most individuals. The distinction is that a requirement clearly defines the minimum amount needed, whereas no such implication is conveyed with the any recommendations.

---

Quote:

---

A variety of studies have shown levels of protein intake above the RDA benefiting muscle mass, strength, bone health, maintenance of energy balance, cardiovascular function, and wound healing.

...The MINIMUM amount of protein for athletes should be at least .55 grams/pound/day. Depending upon your sport or training regimen, the daily requirement can go as high as .9 to 1 grams/pound.

---

Quote:

---

crystal g said:
That's all that you take? You should be taking way more than that. 1gram per lb of muscle mass that you have

---

Quote:

---

crystal g said:
I make sure to eat at least 150g of protein a day and no more than 200g of carbs in a day

---

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18368360#18368360

Quote:

---

CookieCrumbs said:
What you call inconsistent is what everyone has always said: variety.

Most people just don't understand what variety means.

---

Quote:

---

Masked said:
That's just the tip of the iceberg.

The RDA figures are basically the lowest amount of protein intake needed for people who are not active and are not looking at maximizing muscle mass or athletic performance

If you are active and/or train, you should be getting AT LEAST .80 grams of protein per lbs of LEAN BODY MASS.

For me, I'm 180lbs.  But my lean body mass is around 155 to 160lbs.  I should be getting a minimum of 125grams of protein a day.

The science is solid on this crystal.  Stop being combative just for the sake of it.

Quote:

---

crystal g said:
That's all that you take? You should be taking way more than that. 1gram per lb of muscle mass that you have

---

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18080118#18080118

Quote:

---

crystal g said:
I make sure to eat at least 150g of protein a day and no more than 200g of carbs in a day

---

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18368360#18368360

---

Quote:

---

Masked said:

I for one struggle with variety.  I look at food as fuel and I get locked into eating the same things day by day, week by week

---